2009-01-11 GnuCash IRC logs
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10:18:31 <fbond> jsled: Hm. In looking more closely at the CSV produced by Ameritrade, I'm not convinced that it would be all that easy to import with a generic CSV importer.
10:19:27 <fbond> The format is interesting, to say the least. It is translatable by a human with knowledge of account activity, but I don't think it completely describes activity.
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11:41:06 <yotux> is gnome going to support attachment to transactions in the near future
11:41:12 <yotux> sorry gnucash
11:41:31 <andi5> no
11:41:53 <andi5> there is an open bug in the database, but i suppose nobody is working on it
11:42:24 <yotux> I assume that it is allot of work to implement something like that
11:43:11 <andi5> i am not even sure how much work has to be put into the design first...
11:43:26 <andi5> do you want to work on it?
11:43:46 <yotux> I am not a programmer so I have not idea where to even start
11:44:00 <andi5> so back to my first answer ;-)
11:44:24 <yotux> ok :|
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12:24:37 <andi5> fbond: i will try to take a look at your patches, but i have not really worked on reports and budgets yet...
12:25:13 <andi5> fbond: but one thing: why did not you translate the gnc:menuname-budget?
12:29:02 <fbond> andi5: It was probably an oversight. I will fix it.
12:30:24 <andi5> ok... i will probably start with the thing you altered, and if they look good, i will commit them.... i have got the feeling you are not comfortable with working offline? :) ... i suppose i cannot help you substantially anyway and assume jsled or anyone else will do that here on irc...
12:30:45 <andi5> another question: do you expect those changes to be part of a gnucash 2.2.x release?
12:37:24 <andi5> wow... building gnucash on windows usually lasted about 45 minutes on my system... it is now at 25 minutes and i even removed the "do not relink on install" hack :)
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12:42:04 <fbond> andi5: I don't care which release the changes are in. I just want to get them in trunk so I don't have to maintain them in parallel with trunk changes.
12:42:57 <fbond> andi5: "working offline"? I have gotten some assistance from jsled, warlord, goodger.
12:43:54 <andi5> i mean with the help of a dvcs, like git or a patch stacking tool (cannot remember the name...)
12:44:12 <fbond> andi5: Oh, I could do that. I use bzr.
12:44:28 <fbond> (I think you were thinking of quilt, BTW.)
12:44:30 <andi5> anyway, i understand that patches are to be included :)
12:44:38 <andi5> but i typically pick those patches i understand
12:44:40 <andi5> yep, quilt
12:45:20 <fbond> andi5: Makes sense. Thanks for taking the time to look at this.
12:45:23 <andi5> i mean, i guess your patch is fine, but it is too long and i am untrained in those areas, so they will take me more than a few minutes =)
12:46:18 <fbond> andi5: I understand. To be frank, budget support is very incomplete, so there is no possibility for regression.
12:46:29 <fbond> andi5: Even buggy reports are better than none at all. ;)
12:47:13 <andi5> some time ago i read parts of chris shoemakers budget feature design document... did you see that?
12:47:43 <andi5> the one thing i remembered was that 2 people had 3 opinions of what budgeting should look like in gnucash
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12:48:45 <fbond> andi5: I believe that. One working implementation is all I need, though.
12:48:57 <Juerd> Can data files be shared between windows users and linux users? Can they be used concurrently, at all?
12:49:07 <andi5> yes and no
12:49:40 <andi5> but they can be used on both systems, one after the other
12:49:55 <Juerd> Is there locking in place or would you have to keep track manually?
12:50:23 <andi5> there is locking and i hope that it works for you as well... do you use samba shares?
12:50:41 <andi5> would be great if you tested that and reported a bug if it did not ;-)
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12:51:46 <andi5> fbond: so do not bother to send me an updated patch, just changes on top of that
12:52:01 <andi5> s,me,to the list,
12:52:05 <Juerd> I don't know what we'll use yet :)
12:52:08 <Juerd> It's for my parents
12:52:31 <Juerd> I'm trying to figure out if I can invent a clean migration path away from Windows. It'll be a long term thing.
12:52:38 <Juerd> Dad's already on Linux.
12:52:59 <andi5> hehe.... thanks a lot... that is why we ported it to windows ;-)
12:54:02 <andi5> i wonder whether stopping to support gnucash on windows will make users switch to linux or stop using gnucash :)
12:54:32 <andi5> time will tell, at least i am not going to install vista here
12:55:30 <fbond> andi5: Okay, will do.
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13:32:29 <andi5> Q: Is it reasonable to compress sqlite files? if it is not, we might want to remove the corresponding option
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17:22:02 <VenomousGecko> Hello.
17:22:46 <VenomousGecko> I just started using GnuCash on Ubuntu Intrepid and had a quick question about how it displays a bank account balance.
17:23:12 <VenomousGecko> Is there a way to have it display the actual balance instead of the projected balance?
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17:28:55 <goodger> VenomousGecko: you can have it feature in a balance sheet report dated today
18:07:19 <VenomousGecko> goodger: I would then have to make a report to view it that way? Do I understand that correctly?
18:07:44 <goodger> VenomousGecko: no, you can configure the balance sheet report like that
18:09:44 <VenomousGecko> Okay, so it looks like I should just have the account summary open in the tab?
18:10:04 <VenomousGecko> goodger: Will that update in real time or do I have to reload it?
18:10:21 <goodger> you have to reload it, but it will preserve the configuration
18:10:30 <goodger> it will also persist across sessions unless you close it
18:11:41 <VenomousGecko> goodger: So the total listed under the Accounts tab for that bank account, and the fact that it shows what I "will" have as far out as I have projected, is an expected behavior?
18:12:41 <VenomousGecko> goodger: I am looking for it to show me a running total of what I have today in the account. Is this a feature I should request or, if it is expected behavior, would that feature not get implemented?
18:14:19 <goodger> VenomousGecko: the running balance is shown on the right of each transaction...
18:14:52 <goodger> the accounts page does not take dates into account, unfortunately
18:19:49 <VenomousGecko> goodger: It sound like it might be a feature that could be implemented and does not go against the design of that "tab". I will put it in a feature request for that, I suppose. Thank you very much for your help.
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18:30:27 <gxti> VenomousGecko: you can get the present balance in the accounts window by selecting it from the column dropdown
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18:31:55 <gxti> and it's already shown in the account register on the bar at the bottom
18:37:03 <VenomousGecko> gxti: I am not sure what you mean by column dropdown?
18:37:31 <gxti> on the "Accounts" tab, at the far right in the column header there should be a big arrow
18:37:42 <gxti> click that and select "Present"
18:37:51 <gxti> and you'll get a column showing the present balance of each account
18:38:26 <VenomousGecko> PERFECT! That is exactly what I was looking for. I was right clicking on the column "row" to try to add columns and never saw the arrow.
18:38:51 <VenomousGecko> gxti: Thanks!
18:38:55 <gxti> p
18:38:57 <gxti> np
18:39:33 <cortana> hh
18:39:35 <cortana> *heh
18:39:43 <cortana> i thought that just changed the sorting order !
18:39:59 <gxti> sooper sekrit buttans
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18:52:51 <danborne_lappy> Is there a way to do cds in gnucash
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19:05:45 <danborne_lappy> ...
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19:50:41 <warlord> @tell andi5 no, I do not believe it is reasonable to compress SQLite files...
19:50:41 <gncbot> warlord: The operation succeeded.
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19:52:03 <warlord> goodger: Another thing for VenomousGecko is that he could add a "Present" balance column to the CoA display.
19:52:21 <warlord> ahh, looks like gxti said that.
19:52:45 <warlord> danborne_lappy: what do you mean "do cds"?
19:54:18 <danborne_lappy> warlord: Does it have the ability to compute certificates of deposits
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19:57:58 <warlord> I still have no idea what you mean... What are you trying to "compute"? A CD is a savings account deposit just like anything else. A GnuCash SX can certainly compute the monthly interest, but there is no "acct-balance-as-of()" function to enter into the SX..
19:58:39 <warlord> However you could certainly set up the monthly, quarterly, or yearly SXes for the length of your CD to auto-compute your interest... But it would need to be done under the "Mortgage & Loan Druid" which isn't quite the "obvious" place.
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20:01:18 <danborne_lappy> xD Ok warlord. Thanks. I may have some more questions in the process for I cannot say I am used to financial software =/ Konversation and Kontact for me.
20:03:06 <warlord> :)
20:03:08 <warlord> No worries.
20:03:13 <warlord> jdled is the SX guru
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