2008-11-07 GnuCash IRC logs
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10:24:09 <Teka> I'm thinking of trying to use the comma seperated csv file from my bank to import in gnucash. From the website it appears that I can use OpenOffice to convert into qif format. Is this the approach to try and is it fairly straight forward?
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11:03:33 <BuleManCrCe> hi. i'm trying to get my head around gnucash...
11:04:26 <BuleManCrCe> i live abroad and my income is in local currency, so i've made that the default
11:06:02 <BuleManCrCe> i also have a USD account - set that up and seems to be working although i still update the exchange rate manually, looking it up on www.xe.com
11:06:54 <BuleManCrCe> i tried the automatic updates, but was not sure where the quote was coming from, so i reverted back
11:07:27 <BuleManCrCe> Q1: where do the automatic quotes on currency exchage rates come from?
11:08:14 <BuleManCrCe> My mom sometimes sends me some money in USD to my USD account here...
11:11:10 <BuleManCrCe> I tried to transfer it from Income:Gifts - that didn't work as I was made aware that my default currency was in IDR and was prompted to exchange the amount into IDR - i didn't. I just took it as equity
11:11:32 <BuleManCrCe> this may mess up my records - i don't yet know
11:13:29 <BuleManCrCe> I've set up a Income: Foreign USD account and have made the currency for the account in USD so that I can account for a transfer in USD into my local USD account in USD without any exchange
11:13:52 <BuleManCrCe> Q2: Is that the proper thing to do?
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11:45:00 <greg-in-jkt> sorry, where should I go to ask new-be questions?
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12:28:53 <jsled> greg-in-jkt: this is a fine place, but IRC can have a high latency, at times.
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19:54:21 <AltiusBimm> ah that's better, I was on the freenode channel :)
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19:55:00 <AltiusBimm> is there any method for making securities display their symbol on the left of their quantities?
19:56:25 <AltiusBimm> since each symbol may be of different length, it ruins the neatness of the Total column
19:56:35 <AltiusBimm> to have them all on the right
19:56:44 <benjamin> er, let's see
19:56:51 <AltiusBimm> thanks, benjamin
19:57:09 <benjamin> a workaround, of course, is to use a fixed-width font --- but I will have a look
19:57:26 <benjamin> warlord will probably arrive in a matter of nanoseconds with a far better answer, though
19:57:28 <AltiusBimm> thanks for the suggestion
19:57:34 <AltiusBimm> heheh, excellent
19:57:49 <benjamin> sorry, this is the Total column in the Accounts tab?
19:57:56 <AltiusBimm> correct
19:58:14 <AltiusBimm> though I see no point, for my purposes, of having the symbols ever be on the right
19:58:19 <benjamin> well, mine (GBP) have the £ to the left :)
19:58:41 <AltiusBimm> is that considered a currency though?
19:58:41 <benjamin> which makes me suspect that this is currency-specific
19:58:46 <AltiusBimm> yeah
19:59:11 <AltiusBimm> one of my main frustrations with gnucash is the lack of ability to make custom currencies
19:59:26 <benjamin> yes, mine too
19:59:32 <AltiusBimm> ^^
19:59:35 <AltiusBimm> I'm glad someone agrees
19:59:43 <benjamin> since gnucash's currency system is ridiculously rigid, I suspect you will never be able to alter currency formatting
19:59:51 <benjamin> but don't quote me on that...
19:59:52 <AltiusBimm> hmm
19:59:55 <AltiusBimm> I won't
19:59:55 * benjamin pokes the thing some more
20:00:01 <AltiusBimm> hehe
20:00:17 <AltiusBimm> but it seems like it should be not so tough to implement a less-rigid system
20:00:24 <AltiusBimm> other software does, it seems to me
20:00:34 <AltiusBimm> any spreadsheet program, for example
20:00:50 <AltiusBimm> Google Spreadsheets is especially easy
20:01:47 <benjamin> google spreadsheets is a little bugger
20:01:57 <benjamin> you can't make it round the custom currencies
20:02:05 <benjamin> or indeed, any currency but the default
20:02:07 <AltiusBimm> I don't understand
20:02:32 <AltiusBimm> what you are referring to with regard to Google Spreadsheets
20:02:46 <benjamin> well, I have "Currency (£2,000.00)" and "Currency rounded (£2,000)" in the list
20:03:03 <AltiusBimm> refereeing to Google?
20:03:10 <benjamin> yes
20:03:17 <benjamin> the other currencies are all "Currency ($2,000.00)"
20:03:23 <benjamin> there is no option to round to the nearest whole unit
20:03:35 <AltiusBimm> I'll have to take a look at that
20:03:48 <AltiusBimm> one solution for gnucash users might be to use a fixed-width font as you say, but moreover also to use securities for all values, and avoid currency altogether
20:04:13 <benjamin> hmm, possibly
20:05:23 <benjamin> yeah, I can't see any way of changing the currency formatting, sorry
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20:24:51 <AltiusBimm> benjamin: thanks for checking though :) talking to you led me to come with the possibility I stated to you
20:25:44 <benjamin> goodgood
20:25:49 <benjamin> bonvenon, esperegu
20:32:40 <esperegu> bonan vesperon benjamin
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20:32:46 <esperegu> nu. nokton
20:32:49 <esperegu> =)
20:33:19 <Steve33> hi
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21:09:43 <AltiusBimm> benjamin: ahha, I finally got around to implementing it, and my idea about using securities for all assets works excellently
21:10:19 <AltiusBimm> benjamin: my only concern now seems to be that the dialog box warning me that the default currency will be used keeps coming up
21:10:43 <AltiusBimm> benjamin: every time I open any account...>:- (
21:10:52 <benjamin> irritating
21:10:56 <AltiusBimm> yeah
21:11:15 <AltiusBimm> any ideas on how to set the default currency for a stock account?
21:11:15 <benjamin> I suggest you file a bug asking for a "show always" tickbox
21:11:23 <AltiusBimm> yeah
21:11:26 <AltiusBimm> I should
21:11:27 <benjamin> no idea, I don't deal in stock....yet....
21:11:31 <AltiusBimm> :)
21:11:48 * benjamin has an idea for a new type of market speculation that will take years to outlaw
21:11:49 <AltiusBimm> well these aren't actually stocks, they're commodities
21:11:57 <benjamin> yeah...
21:11:57 <AltiusBimm> LOL
21:12:10 <benjamin> all just certificates though
21:12:16 <AltiusBimm> hmm?
21:12:24 <AltiusBimm> I don't know what you mean
21:12:45 <AltiusBimm> I'm just using the stock account type because aside from mutual fund type, it's the only one which allows non-currency
21:14:22 <benjamin> right
21:14:44 <benjamin> I mean, if you buy $100 in a commodity (say, orange juice) you don't actually buy any orange juice
21:14:54 <benjamin> you just buy certificates with "orange juice" printed on them
21:15:11 <benjamin> same with all other futures markets
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21:26:00 <matt> Hm, getting an error building gnucash: missing SLIB support. I have slib installed, can't seem to find slib-dev... any idea what package I need? On ubuntu hardy
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21:29:56 <AltiusBimm> what is the Cc field for in Bugzilla?
21:30:11 <AltiusBimm> (when posting a bug report)
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21:34:37 <benjamin> people who are not the assignee or the reporter but are still interested in the bug
21:35:21 <matt> ah, I needed swig. apt-get build-dep caught it, thank you apt
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21:40:20 <AltiusBimm> does anyone happen to know if there is a source for commodity prices (e.g. gold, silver, platinum, rhodium) which is compatible with GnuCash's system of online quote retrieval?
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23:31:45 <warlord> matt: apt-get build-dep gnucash
23:31:51 <warlord> that will pull in all the deps you need.
23:32:15 <warlord> If you installed slib by hand (not by package) then you're in trouble unless you can remove it all.
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