2008-08-25 GnuCash IRC logs

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01:02:40 <Azih> Hey guys I'm just starting to use gnucash and my account setup for home mortgage is screwing up my cash flow report
01:03:05 <Azih> basically the loan is showing up as cash in but it's not showing up as cash out
01:04:05 <Azih> which is showing my net worth as far higher than it actually should be.
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01:57:09 <Rommedahl> What is the Num column in the transaction window?
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09:49:30 <Rolf2> How does this SQL stuff work?
09:49:42 <Rolf2> I have a recompiled gnucash from trunk
09:50:03 <Rolf2> Do I need to configure it with some kind of switch?
09:50:18 <Rolf2> Save as does not present me with an option to convert to SQL
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11:50:59 <JoeyJoeJo> I just installed gnucash 2.2.6 on my mac via fink, but there is no online banking option. Does anyone know how I can fix it?
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14:14:07 <Blindjesse> Hi all. Thanks for the help in advance.
14:15:45 <Blindjesse> I'm trying to record splitting the cost of house bills. I'm paying the entire bill from my checking account, splitting costs down the middle, then waiting for the reimbursement from roommates.
14:16:25 <Blindjesse> My best shot so far has been to do a transaction from my checking to the expense account for the bill, then putting the half owed to me from my checking account to an a/r for my roommate.
14:16:53 <Blindjesse> But this takes two transactions and I wonder if I couldn't somehow do it as a split or similar transaction. Thoughts?
14:17:24 <jsled> Move the full amount out of your checking account (of course), then only your portion into the Expense account, and the remainder into the Assets (a/r) accounts for your roommates
14:17:48 <jsled> Instead of using the business features and A/R stuff and all that, just create an {Assets:Money Owed to Me:Roommate} account.
14:18:07 <jsled> (all as splits on one transaction, yes.)
14:19:09 <Blindjesse> But wouldn't the expense account then show only half the bill had been paid?
14:19:39 <jsled> Sure. If that's your portion of the Expense, then that's what it should show, eh?
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14:23:45 <Blindjesse> That's true...
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14:26:32 <Blindjesse> But then it seems like I would have to record somewhere separately (and maybe that's the appropriate thing to do) that the entire bill had been paid.
14:28:14 <jsled> Well, the asset account side of the transaction does record that.
14:28:28 <jsled> The Checking account, obviously, not the "owed to me" accounts.
14:29:22 <Blindjesse> I'll give it a shot. Thanks for the help.
14:32:33 <warlord> [OT] Wow -- it took me 24 hours to migrate from a 250GB -> 320GB disk.. I had to copy the data across no fewer than 3 times to get the repartitioning to work!
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15:04:25 <Rommedahl> Rommedahl: What is the Num column in the transaction window
15:05:07 <jsled> It's a number associaited with the transaction. E.g., the physical check number for the transaction.
15:05:11 <jsled> I hardly use it.
15:05:25 <jsled> Basically only for the half-dozen actaul checks I write every year.
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15:33:39 <balubalu> hey, im trying to configure a new hbci account, but the qt3-wizard.exe allways crashes during the setup. im using the latest stable version with vista ultimate 32bit. AqBanking should be installed with the installer, or do i have to do it manually whith qt for win?
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15:50:51 <warlord> Have you checked on the mailing list? I remember someone else was having this kind of issue. You shouldn't need to install anything special to get HBCI working.
15:51:31 <balubalu> sry im new to mailinglists i only know forum ;)
15:51:52 <balubalu> can i find the list on the gnucash website?
15:52:14 <warlord> yes
15:52:18 <balubalu> k
15:52:53 <balubalu> maybe its something with the vist useraccount, no adminprevilige
15:52:58 <balubalu> vista
15:59:45 <warlord> Maybe...
15:59:49 <warlord> Vista is kinda weird.
15:59:55 <warlord> And I dont use windows myself.
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16:02:19 <balubalu> that was sure. :) i want to change from a propritarian software, and i searched the internet, and everything i found saif gnucash is the best open source hbci finance solution, so im trying now
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16:04:56 <warlord> I think it is, but I use Linux.
16:28:35 <balubalu> the log file contains some pieces german and english
16:28:35 <balubalu> * WARN <qof.engine> [guid_init()] only got 2068 bytes.
16:28:35 <balubalu> The identifiers might not be very random.
16:28:35 <balubalu> * WARN <gnc.app-util> Could not spawn perl: Kindprozess konnte nicht ausgeführt werden (No such file or directory)
16:28:35 <balubalu> * WARN <gnc.import.hbci> Ouch, no Qt demo program was found. Qt not installed?
16:30:55 <warlord> I'm afraid I really know nothing about the windows distribution.
16:31:52 <balubalu> k then i dont bother u anymore withit ;)
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16:36:55 <warlord> I'd recommend you ask on the gnucash-de mailing list.
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16:41:04 <balubalu> im surfing through the list so far, and found maybe the portable version is a solution. are here also some windows guys around from time to time?
16:46:28 <warlord> periodically andreas and nathan show up.
16:48:48 <balubalu> k thx
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18:20:26 <Rolf1> How does this SQL stuff work? I have a recompiled gnucash from trunk. Do I need to configure it with some kind of switch? Save as does not present me with an option to convert to SQL
18:22:30 <warlord> Yes, you need to --enable-dbi
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18:28:10 <hauptmat> I'm using gnucash for a small business and have some multiple currency issues. I have a foreign currency account and I need to keep a parallel record of the value of each entry in my local currency for gov't reporting purposes. Ideas?
18:30:38 <Rolf1> warlord: thanks
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19:21:53 <Rolf1> warlord-afk: --enable-dbi did not really change a thing it seems
19:22:14 <Rolf1> I have an entry "database connection" under File, but that was there before
19:22:47 <Rolf1> I still don't see how to save an xml gnucash file as an sql file (no such thing under "Save As")
19:22:55 <Rolf1> Any idea?
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19:34:14 <jsled> http://www.macworld.com/article/135198/2008/08/quickenonline_iphone.html
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22:23:54 <quotemstr> Why are my transactions being imported as imbalances?
22:25:46 <warlord> quotemstr: because you're not supplying both ends of the transaction?
22:26:37 <quotemstr> Oh.
22:26:44 <quotemstr> Just starting out. :-)
22:27:45 <quotemstr> I'm trying to import several years worth of financial records. Should I create accounts with which I can balance all these transactions?
22:27:53 <jsled> yes
22:29:04 <quotemstr> Also, I use a credit card to pay for everything, which I then pay off in full every month. Do I account checking account transfers to the same transactions I account the credit card ones to? Or do I just balance the checking transfers with the credit card, and balance the credit card with the various other transactions?
22:29:34 <warlord> CC -> Exp ... and then Checking -> CC
22:29:55 <quotemstr> Thanks.
22:30:00 <warlord> If you haven't read it already I highly recommend you read the Concepts & Tutorial. I explains Double Entry Accounting.
23:34:00 <quotemstr> Why is gnucash complaining that the current transaction isn't balanced when it *is* associated with another account?
23:34:14 <quotemstr> Clicking any transaction causes that dialog to appear.
23:34:42 <jsled> what do the splits in the current transaction look like?
23:34:56 <jsled> What register are you editing "in"?
23:35:33 <quotemstr> I imported some transactions into a checking account. Arbitrarily, let me choose a salary entry. In the generic importer, I associated it with income:salary.
23:36:43 <quotemstr> Ah, wait. I see what's going on now.
23:36:44 <quotemstr> Thanks.
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23:37:55 <quotemstr> I tried to import another set of transactions, but those all came in as imbalanced (even though I canceled the import, I think.)
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23:38:15 <warlord> if you canceled the import they shouldn't have come in
23:38:29 <quotemstr> Is there a way to mass-delete them?
23:38:43 <warlord> 'rm /path/to/datafile'?
23:38:56 <jsled> Which would delete your datafile.
23:38:57 <jsled> Don't do that.
23:39:05 <quotemstr> I mean, all these transactions that aren't balanced. That way, I can go ahead and re-import them, balancing them this time.
23:39:21 <jsled> No, there's no bulk-delete.
23:39:49 <warlord> You could revert to a backup from before the import?
23:39:49 <jsled> Unless they all happened to be in the same [sub-]account, in which case when you delete that, you can choose to delete all the transactions.
23:42:15 <quotemstr> Problem solved: gnucash crashed, and when I re-opened it, the new transactions were gone. :-)
23:42:34 <jsled> heh heh
23:42:42 <warlord> oh, .... you didnt save.... you could have just exited. ;)
23:42:55 <quotemstr> warlord: What about autosave?
23:43:23 <warlord> oh, right --- i have that turned off