2008-08-24 GnuCash IRC logs
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03:12:52 <Mansig> Is there anybody here?
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10:46:57 <Rolf1> should ./src/swig-runtime.h be created by ./autogen.sh?
10:47:00 <Rolf1> I'm having a problem here compiling from svn with pdebuild
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10:53:16 <warlord> Rolf1: No... I believe it is created by make.
10:53:24 <warlord> (I have no idea what "pdebuild" is)
10:56:20 <Rolf1> pdebuild is a kind of chroot for building packages from scratch
10:56:33 <Rolf1> to make sure all build-time dependencies are fullfilled for example
10:56:49 <Rolf1> I use it to not pollute my system by installing a bunch of compile-time dependencies
10:59:55 <warlord> Ummm... Yeah, that would probably fail because the configure test probably fails the 'is this building from SVN' check.
11:00:20 <warlord> You'd need to "make dist" and pass it the resulting tarball (which would create the swig stuff for you)
11:01:03 <Rolf1> I wonder if I can do that from the svn checkout tarball
11:01:08 <Rolf1> what does make dist do?
11:01:14 <Rolf1> just create a tarball?
11:01:26 * Rolf1 takes a look at MAKEFILE
11:02:28 <warlord> "make dist" creates a "distribution tarball" which includes all the sources to build the code.. But it does it in a way that you don't need to be in a full svn environment.
11:05:09 <Rolf1> OK
11:05:14 <Rolf1> nothing else I suppose?
11:05:20 <Rolf1> Should be safe, then
11:05:53 <warlord> Well, it still requires many of the build deps in order to build the configure script, and you do still need to run configure..
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11:33:00 <Rolf1> warlord: will "autogen.sh;configure;make dist;make;make install" work?
11:33:11 <Rolf1> I could do that in pdebuild
11:34:23 <warlord> Well, normally you would: svn co; autogen.sh; configure; make dist at one location, then untar; configure; make; make install at another.
11:34:48 <Rolf1> which sounds cumbersome
11:35:01 <Rolf1> And not sure if this is possible all in pdebuild
11:35:03 <warlord> or you can: svn co; autogen; configure; make {all install} all from one location.
11:35:16 <Rolf1> pdebuild just follows commands in another make file
11:35:23 <Rolf1> good
11:35:26 <Rolf1> I'll try that
11:35:27 <Rolf1> thanks
11:36:05 <warlord> Just make sure that your pdebuild environment can run the gnc-svnversion script
11:36:33 <Rolf1> It'll probably yell at me if it can't
11:41:02 <warlord> It wont, actually.. It will just silently say "not running out of an SVN build"
11:41:21 <warlord> ... which will cause the build to fail later because it wont try to build the swig stuff.
11:41:26 <Rolf1> what is necessary to run it?
11:41:42 <Rolf1> that sounds like what happened to me earlier
11:42:04 <warlord> 'svn info' (or svk info, or git-svn info) needs to work
11:42:20 <Rolf1> OK
11:42:30 <Rolf1> subversion is in build depends
11:42:37 <Rolf1> so it should be present
11:45:05 <warlord> Is this a real 'svn' checkout? Not something else (svk/git/bzr)?
11:52:40 <Rolf1> git
11:52:53 <Rolf1> local branch of it
11:53:09 <Rolf1> with packaging info in debian/ checked into local branc
11:53:10 <Rolf1> h
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11:55:33 <warlord> Ah, can pdebuild reach the git repository in order to see that it's actually a git-checkout?
11:59:45 <warlord> (is 'git' in the buildrequires?)
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12:03:42 <Rolf1> git is not in build-requires right now
12:03:46 <Rolf1> Maybe I should add it
12:03:58 <Rolf1> But I wonder if git will be called at all
12:05:23 <warlord> gnc-svnversion will call it as a test.
12:10:54 <Rolf1> OK
12:11:04 <Rolf1> I'll add git to build dependencies
12:21:38 <warlord> i'm gonna be offline for a few hours.
12:21:45 <warlord> so... any last questions?
12:25:29 <Rolf1> not right now
12:25:31 <Rolf1> thanks
12:25:35 <Rolf1> later
12:26:26 <warlord> good luck with your build.
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13:10:00 <balubalu> hi, i dont if i get any helf in german, so i try to ask in english. i want to import exported qif files of wiso mein geld 2007 in gnucash. no problems whith the import alone, but i got no memo importet. what can i do to get all memos in the qif file working to import in gnucash?
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13:16:28 <balubalu> so every single transaction, i dont know what was it about...
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14:37:33 <RaceCondition> hey, nice to know there's a support channel for GNUCash. I didn't know that before :)
14:38:52 <RaceCondition> I've a question: I want to do accounting for a small business in Estonia and I'd like EEK to be the global default currency. Right now my accounting file has been set up using EEK, but reports still show USD in lots of places such as the account summary report.. how can I fix that?
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15:06:05 <LeFou> RaceCondition, go to Edit->Preferences, Report tab. Default Report Currnecy
15:06:40 <RaceCondition> thanks!
15:08:12 <RaceCondition> I wonder if it's possible to change the interface language as well to Estonian
15:08:24 <RaceCondition> some button labels already are in Estonian
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15:17:37 <LeFou> http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Translation_Status
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15:36:08 <RaceCondition> LeFou: thanks again
15:46:44 <balubalu> hi, i want to know, if there is any solution to get memo working, when i want to import an qif file. now if i import the qif file, no memos are importet and so i dont now what every transaction was about. payee i dont really need to import.
15:52:45 <RaceCondition> how many people here are using GNUCash for business accounting, not just personal finance?
15:54:37 <balubalu> <- personal
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17:16:08 <Rommedahl> <- personal
17:16:45 <Rommedahl> What is the Num column in the transaction window?
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19:47:59 <mrp> Hi, i've just moved from Quicken to Gnucash and have been starting afresh with a blank gnuCash file. I have just created an account in Income of about £320, but when I look at Equity opening balances this £320 is decreasing my equity. Surely it should increase it? I am confused.
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22:19:07 <gantrixx> why doesn't gnucash try to support the quickbooks file format?
22:28:03 <todd> because that is proprietary? give some docs and some dev time to import it .. there ya go!
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22:28:28 <todd> you can export from quickbooks to qif format file which can then be imported into gnucash no problemo
22:31:30 <gantrixx> well, my accountant is very frustrated with GNUCash
22:31:59 <todd> in what way?
22:32:01 <gantrixx> she get's parsing errors when trying to read my GNUCash files
22:32:22 <gantrixx> and she is about to tell me to either use QuickBooks or find a different accounting service
22:32:24 <todd> any chance you're using different gnucash revisions? there are some changes that cannot go backwards
22:32:33 <gantrixx> yes, there is a chance
22:32:39 <todd> well then, dont do that
22:32:47 <todd> make sure you use the same version(s) and you'll not have such issues
22:32:48 <gantrixx> she is using the windows version, I'm using the linux version
22:32:52 <todd> ugh
22:32:54 <todd> I mean
22:32:59 <todd> the same revision release
22:33:04 <todd> 1.2.3 or 2.1.6 etc
22:33:21 <todd> the os it runs on will not matter
22:33:28 <todd> it is the gnucash version.
22:33:31 <todd> that matters.
22:33:36 <todd> does this make sense?
22:34:09 <gantrixx> you see, I could help her troubleshoot this, but every minute I spend on the phone with her, I'm billed for
22:34:39 <gantrixx> and it also causes her to question, "why am I even going through this for one client"
22:35:19 <mrp> Hi, i've just moved from Quicken to Gnucash and have been starting afresh with a blank gnuCash file. I have just created an account in Income of about £320, but when I look at Equity opening balances this £320 is decreasing my equity. Surely it should increase it? I am confused.
22:41:17 <todd> gantrixx: well, if you do not know what version of gnucash she uses, that is a major problem to blindly send files to
22:41:42 <todd> I would think 'help -> about' would not be hard and would solve a bit of problems if you ran the same version she is
22:42:13 <gantrixx> at this point GNUCash has cost me both time and money
22:42:27 <gantrixx> GNUCash is actually more expensive for me to use than QuickBooks
22:42:32 <todd> mrp: unlike quicken with categories, gnucash is a true double entry accounting system. any entry must be balanced by a corresponding entry in another register.
22:42:40 <gantrixx> she assures me that she is running 2.2.5
22:42:44 <gantrixx> as am I
22:42:56 <todd> gantrixx: after me asking above why did you not reveal that earlier?
22:43:08 <gantrixx> because I just asked her
22:43:12 <todd> oh
22:43:13 <todd> heh
22:43:26 <todd> its 9:45pm here, didn't think about other timezones
22:43:45 <gantrixx> Of course, maybe she isn't computer savy enough to give me good info
22:43:48 <todd> sorry I can't help further, search bug reports and/or mailing lists for the errors she is seeing, it seems odd.
22:43:53 <gantrixx> but she seems knowledgable
22:44:01 <gantrixx> it is 7:43pm here
22:44:05 <gantrixx> she works out of her home
22:44:07 <todd> ironically I have an accountant using gnucash on windows to do some work for my business
22:44:10 <mrp> thanks todd
22:44:31 <todd> sofar it has worked out
22:44:41 <gantrixx> either I have to find her enough clients that it is worth her while to support GNUCash, or I have to pay to solve all the problems she encounters using GNUCash
22:44:42 <mrp> but it seems counter-intuitive to me, i am assuming that equity of Opening Balances is your Net worth?
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22:45:06 <gantrixx> could you send me your accountant's email address?
22:45:43 <todd> gantrixx: well, it is a person who is otherwise employed who is doing some cleanup stuff for me on the side and is not avail to do some work for me till sept due to a vacation in 4 days and a new house a week ago etc .. ;-)
22:45:50 <todd> so I have to go through a 3rd party to pay them
22:45:57 <todd> but I'd be glad to give you the email of that 3rd party ;-)
22:48:34 <gantrixx> Is 2.2.6 compatible with 2.2.5?
22:48:59 <todd> I would expect so, the 3rd number should only be stability fixes
22:49:26 <todd> look for changelog notes in x.y.0 releases to read about incompatible changes
22:50:35 <todd> and for whatever it is worth I'm pretty sure my accountant is using 2.2.6 whereas I am using 2.2.1
22:51:45 <todd> if you were using 2.2.6 and your accountant was using 2.0.0 or somesuch then I'd expect some issues ;-)
22:52:53 <todd> 2.2.6 does have some bugfixes for windows I see
22:53:54 <todd> though all of those problems say 'crash' so 'errors' may not be fixed by that heh
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