2008-08-14 GnuCash IRC logs

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00:07:01 <jcarter> Feature? After installing gnucash 2.2.6 on my Intel Mac (OS X 10.5.4), I notice that the fonts are so terribly small that I need to zoom the screen to see the letters. Is there a way to permanently change the font size? Just need to go up a couple of notches.
00:34:33 <jcarter> gnucash 2.2.6 on Mac: Error message at start-up: gnc.bin-Message: main: binreloc relocation support was disabled at configure time.
00:35:03 <warlord> that's not an erorr message, it's a warning, and it's one you can ignore.
00:35:13 <jcarter> Thanks.
00:35:18 <jcarter> How about this one:
00:35:18 <jcarter> (gnome-help:96181): Yelp-WARNING **: Cannot find dbus bus
00:36:29 <warlord> No clue. that's not gnucash-related.
00:36:47 <jcarter> But it only came up while going through the docs
00:37:03 <jcarter> I did a search on
00:37:15 <jcarter> ´font size´ and this came up.
00:37:55 <jcarter> And it is also strange that the search took me completely out of gnucash docs.
00:39:58 <jcarter> And this one just happened while scrolling through the docs: ***MEMORY-ERROR***: gnome-help[96613]: GSlice: assertion failed: sinfo->n_allocated > 0
00:40:09 <jcarter> And the help crashed.
00:41:19 <warlord> again, gnome-help. not gnucash related
00:41:31 <jcarter> Tried same thing, no problem that time.
00:41:37 <jcarter> Thanks.
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02:00:32 <ectospasm> I've got a problem with importing my .qfx files. I've had it for a while, but I don't know how to pinpoint it. Gnucash fails to import several transactions, such that my reconciles are off. And I have a lot of small-dollar transfers to savings which occur automatically, and some of these are the ones missing. It doesn't seem to make much of a difference if I have overlapping dates in the .qfx file, or if I make sure the dates don't
02:00:59 <ectospasm> I haven't been doing so, but should I import Microsoft Money files instead? Maybe I'll have more luck with them?
02:02:00 <ectospasm> Oh, and I'm using Gnucash 2.2.4 on Ubuntu 8.04 (32bit)
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06:18:17 <ashikase> is it possible to compile the python-bindings for use with 2.2.6? Or do I have to use the svn repo?
06:18:40 <ashikase> (I noticed that bindings are not included in the 2.2.6 tarball)
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06:40:33 <warlord> ashikase: AFAIK no, they are not in 2.2 and probably wont be.
06:41:44 <warlord> ectospasm: The only time the importer would ignore a txn without your manual input is if the OFX Transaction ID matches the TxnId of another txn
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06:48:03 <ashikase> warlord: ok, thanks... I will try the svn version then
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07:54:12 <Rolf1> hm?
07:54:28 <Rolf1> I thought the debian packages even had the python bindings compiled in?
07:54:58 <Rolf1> IIRC, I opened a ticket requesting this in the Debian bts and it was closed when 2.2.6 hit debian
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11:30:24 <andi5> Rolf1: i suppose you mean packages built from trunk?
11:30:39 <andi5> but even then you need to enable the bindings manually
11:30:55 <Rolf1> the python binding are not in 2.2.6?
11:30:56 <jcarter> ectospasm: I had a lot of problems importing QIF files from Quicken, and I too was using gnucash 2.2.4. As far as I am concerned, it isn´t a problem with gnucash. It is a problem with the way we set up accounts in Quicken – it doesn´t match the formal Chart of Accounts method used by gnucash. So, I spent hours finding and correcting the problem. In fact, I finally decided that the best approach was to follow the advice of another user and first import
11:30:56 <jcarter> the category list into gnucash, fix them up, and then import the transactions. And I still had a lot of fixing up to do.
11:31:01 <andi5> surely not
11:31:33 <Rolf1> http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/g/gnucash/gnucash_2.2.6-1/changelog
11:31:51 <Rolf1> At least once they hit the stable release, debian will be ready ;-)
11:31:53 <andi5> so?
11:31:59 <andi5> yep :)
11:32:14 <andi5> honestly, i saw that before, but did not really care :)
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11:45:05 <Rolf1> Do you use git-buildpackage at all?
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11:55:46 <andi5> why should i?
11:56:26 <Rolf1> in defensive mood today?
11:56:33 <Rolf1> I'm just asking simple questions
11:57:01 <andi5> yes, that is what i do as well
11:57:14 <andi5> let us stick there :)
11:58:10 <andi5> meanwhile, i am leaving the .deb world right now again... let us see when i will be back ;-)
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12:00:42 <andi5> some other qs: why did you expect (1) the python bindings to be part of 2.2.6 [at least the release notes and i did not say so, i suppose the link you gave above is to be blamed], and (2) me to use git-buildpackage? [i suppose you knew that i use git and a debian derivate, so that i may build that way locally, right]
12:01:25 <andi5> if i missed something, please tell me... i suppose i need to know when i do a terrible job (even if i actually do not want to hear it ;-))
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12:02:14 <andi5> nothing special about my mood =)
12:04:34 <Rolf1> good
12:04:49 <Rolf1> you basically summed up my assumptions that I was verifying
12:07:08 <andi5> actually, i have some weird tree of non-lapping prefixes for the whole gnome stack which helped me a lot in the past, but recently really annoyed me... then i gave jhbuild a quick try, but i suppose i will completely change back to some exotic linux distro which fits me even better :)
12:08:18 <andi5> non-overlapping, even
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12:26:43 <Rolf1> I like packaged stuff
12:26:50 <Rolf1> Helps me keep my sanity
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16:06:48 <ech0s7> hello
16:07:02 <jsled> 'lo.
16:07:39 <ech0s7> i would to compile gnucash on windows, there is a makefile for windows or something of similar ?
16:08:16 <jsled> ech0s7: I think the best place to start is <http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Windows#Instructions_for_an_.28almost.29_automated_build>.
16:08:35 <jsled> I don't do windows, so that's hearsay, but it's at least a place to start.
16:08:52 <ech0s7> ok jsled i look
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19:59:28 <troubador> Hi! I just downloaded gnucash and it looks great. However, what I'm looking for is a loan amortization calculator, where it would be really easy to try different interest rates, terms, etc., and view the amortization charts. I've looked around for an hour and can't seem to find a good Linux app to do this, other than the ancient "mcalc", which is good except the interface is a little clunky. Since y'all wrote gnucash, I
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20:02:56 <andrewsw> you're best bet is to just setup a simple spreadsheet to do that.
20:03:23 <andrewsw> most spreadsheets have pmt() and similar functions to make it straightforward.
20:04:00 <troubador> andrewsw: Ah. Thanks. I didn't know about the special function. I'll read up on that.
20:04:02 <andrewsw> I suggest either gnumeric or openoffice.calc
20:04:30 <troubador> I haven't used gnumeric. Which of those tend to start up faster for you? (I'm on a Pentium III)
20:04:46 <andrewsw> gnumeric is much lighter wieght than openoffice
20:04:52 <andrewsw> weight even.
20:05:26 <andrewsw> most spreadsheets come with a number of financial calculation functions that can quickly build an amortization chart.
20:05:55 <troubador> I'll definitely look into that, then. Thanks!
20:06:58 <andrewsw> you're welcome.
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20:38:11 <andrewsw> Rolf: are you awake?
20:38:30 <Rolf> yes
20:38:48 <andrewsw> I"m looking at #350658, 1 out of 5 hunks failed to apply...
20:38:59 <andrewsw> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=350658
20:39:36 <andrewsw> have you reviewed that patch or were you looking to test it?
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20:41:24 <andrewsw> (if you are the same Rolf, that is...)
20:42:54 <Rolf> I think I was just doing bug triage
20:43:04 <Rolf> I don't have a particular interest in this one
20:43:26 <Rolf> Most likely I was just looking through some bugs with patches if they can be closed
20:43:41 <andrewsw> right.
20:43:46 * andrewsw is doing the same thing...
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20:44:29 <andrewsw> I'll see if I can get it to reapply in the next couple of days, just to keep it available for testers...if one ever comes along.
20:45:32 <coolguy4> hi there, I'm getting started with gnucash and I'm generating my first invoice. Everything is going well but I don't seem to be able to edit the post date. Nothing I do lets me change the post date on the invoice. Any ideas?
20:46:02 <andrewsw> coolguy4: are you actually in the "Post INvoice" window?
20:46:25 <coolguy4> andrew: yes
20:46:45 <andrewsw> what platform and what version?
20:47:06 <coolguy4> Windows XP. 2.2.6
20:47:26 <andrewsw> and what is the post date set to?
20:47:39 <coolguy4> the first of the month
20:47:50 <coolguy4> 01/08/08
20:47:51 <andrewsw> I think there is already a bug for this, let me check.
20:48:41 <coolguy4> thanks
20:49:28 * andrewsw is waiting for bugzilla...
20:50:54 <andrewsw> coolguy4: there have been reports of a problem with the date boxes in 2.2.6.
20:51:00 <coolguy4> I see
20:51:04 <andrewsw> can you change the date by using the drop-down calendar?
20:51:16 <coolguy4> no
20:51:40 <andrewsw> is the field greyed out at all? (sorry for lots of little questions)
20:51:41 <coolguy4> it drops down but doesn't respond
20:52:04 <coolguy4> no it's not grayed out. The due date is though because I have billing terms set
20:52:11 <andrewsw> right, okay.
20:52:18 <andrewsw> see this: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=545722
20:52:20 <coolguy4> even without billing terms set the post date wouldn't change
20:52:38 <coolguy4> I don't mind with the questions, I appreciate your help :)
20:52:49 <andrewsw> comment 17 mentions that it affects invoice posting as well.
20:52:59 <andrewsw> It looks like date selection is borked in 2.2.6
20:53:11 <andrewsw> you might try downloading 2.2.5 and using it until it's fixed.
20:53:38 <andrewsw> though that might expose you to older bugs.
20:55:19 <coolguy4> what I will do is edit the billing terms to give an extended due date. That will be my workaround for now
20:55:38 <coolguy4> How often do you releases come out?
20:55:41 <andrewsw> reasonable, I suppose.
20:55:43 <coolguy4> new releases
20:55:48 <andrewsw> when they're ready.
20:56:10 <andrewsw> 2.2.6 *just* came out. It will be months probably before 2.2.7 hits.
20:56:16 <coolguy4> ah ok
20:56:29 <andrewsw> unless we think this bug is enough of a show stopper to crank it out sooner.
20:56:42 * andrewsw is not involved in that decision
20:57:22 <coolguy4> lol
20:58:04 <coolguy4> well I can workaround it for now, the amount of accounting I do fairly minimal. When the fix comes out I can go back and fix the dates.
20:58:21 <coolguy4> Actually I won't fix the dates because they'll be on the invoices
20:58:37 <andrewsw> yeah, if you issue them now, you'll have to live with it.
20:58:52 <andrewsw> you *could* change it in your books after the fact, but the paper copy would be out already.
20:58:54 <coolguy4> it's a good programme otherwise, it's pretty fast
20:59:01 <andrewsw> YOu'd have to mark up the invoices manually.
20:59:24 <andrewsw> you could also export them to html, edit, open in browser and print. but that's a lot of work.
20:59:32 <andrewsw> whiteout and papermate to the rescue.
20:59:33 <coolguy4> yeah, well its the issue date on the invoices that's set to the 1st, but the date on each item is correct.
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21:00:19 <coolguy4> that's all good but the invoices will be leaving my hands and going to customers
21:00:43 <coolguy4> they won't care if its says the 1st of the month, I'll just say it's my new accounting system
21:00:50 <andrewsw> as I said, you can edit the posting dates later. you have to unpost and repost the invoices, which is a pain... but doable.
21:00:58 <andrewsw> heh. just point them to the bug report!!
21:02:33 <coolguy4> Comment #18 says he's stuck issuing invoices due on the day they are issued. If I had an account I'd tell him about changing the billing terms.
21:04:59 <andrewsw> hmm... get an account?
21:05:05 <andrewsw> I'll do it. good idea.
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21:06:27 <andrewsw> done with credit to you ;-
21:06:29 <andrewsw> )
21:08:40 <andrewsw> gott go. cya
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21:09:29 <coolguy4> thanks for your help! bye
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