2008-07-28 GnuCash IRC logs

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02:25:47 <warlord> it's so hard to answer questions when people disappear shortly after asking them. *sighs*
02:50:57 <andi5> really?
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03:03:10 <warlord> @tell andi5 :-P
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06:23:46 <micha> @tell andi5 Hi Andi, which changeset fixed the problem mentioned here? http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A-ofxdirectconnect-in-aqbanking3-branch-p18564507.html
06:23:46 <gncbot> micha: The operation succeeded.
06:26:51 <warlord> micha: It's r17370 in trunk, r17396 in 2.2
06:33:29 <warlord> lunchtime. BBL.
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06:46:11 <micha> warlord: thanks
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09:30:05 <warlord> hiya andi5
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10:57:21 <t00r> gnucash dies upon startup, giving "abnormal program termination" in windoze 2000 running in vmware.
11:00:02 <andi5> why are you running gnucash in vmware, btw?
11:01:08 <t00r> a number of reasons. i'm running slackware, it has no gnome, and gnome dependencies are hell to build.
11:01:29 <t00r> and i'm trying to determine the fitness of deploying gnucash in a windoze environment.
11:01:38 <t00r> AND i'd rather not reboot now.
11:04:12 <andi5> ok... but keep in mind that you are testing gnucash in a vmware windows environment, which might be more involved...
11:04:22 <andi5> has it started successfully before?
11:04:45 <t00r> no, it's the first time i tried running it.
11:04:59 <t00r> i will reboot into win shortly.
11:05:12 <t00r> i'm just looking around for solutions before i do.
11:09:20 <t00r> i'm reading this: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=457100
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11:14:39 <t00r> it appears libgncmod* aren't in the windoze installer.
11:15:55 <andi5> how did you start gnucash, btw?
11:17:48 <t00r> i just clicked on the shortcut on the desktop.
11:17:58 <andi5> hm, ok
11:18:21 <andi5> are you sure there is a file missing? do you see it in $prefix\lib(\gnucash)?
11:18:39 <t00r> no i was wrong. the files are there.
11:19:58 <t00r> so gnucash somehow isn't seeing them, right?
11:20:09 <andi5> i am not sure, what is your $prefix?
11:20:34 <t00r> i just used the default "c:\program files\gnucash\"
11:21:02 <t00r> the libgnc-* dlls are in c:
11:21:07 <andi5> hmpf... have you checked http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Windows#Known_issues ?
11:21:12 <t00r> c:\program files\gnucash\lib
11:21:14 <t00r> sorry.
11:21:31 <andi5> no, your prefix is C:\program files\gnucash then
11:21:56 <t00r> yes that's correct.
11:23:35 <t00r> yeah i read that page. it led me to the bugzilla page whose url i pasted.
11:24:01 <t00r> i ran dependencywalker on gnucash-bin.exe and it's telling me the libgncmod-* dlls can't be opened.
11:24:24 <andi5> sure, you are missing paths, take a look at gnucash.bat
11:24:35 <t00r> checking...
11:25:32 <t00r> hm. shouldn't i quote the directory names that have spaces, like "program files"?
11:25:45 <t00r> or mangle them into 8.3?
11:30:24 <andi5> normally that should not make a difference
11:30:31 <andi5> what locale are you running in?
11:31:57 <t00r> lemme check.
11:32:12 <t00r> en_US
11:32:22 <andi5> hmpf
11:32:42 <andi5> try running gdb as written on the wiki page
11:33:04 <t00r> wait, i also tried mangling the path names to progra~1
11:33:26 <t00r> and i also copied the $prefix/gnucash/lib/gnucash/libgncmod-* to $prefix/gnucash/bin
11:33:46 <t00r> depends found the libs but gnucash still doesn't start.
11:33:51 <andi5> please do not try to copy things around
11:34:01 <andi5> it should work as is
11:34:31 <t00r> ok.
11:34:59 <t00r> does gnucash require sp4 or something?
11:35:47 <andi5> i have no clue
11:35:52 <andi5> but i suppose not
11:36:03 <andi5> ah wait, sp4 is rather old, is not it?
11:36:33 <t00r> yes it's old.
11:37:01 <andi5> should depend only on the dependencies of libgtk+
11:37:37 <t00r> i'll reboot into windoze and try it from there and report back.
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11:47:04 <t00r> andi5, gnucash works on win2k.
11:47:20 <andi5> interesting
11:47:24 <t00r> you were right about interactions with vmware.
11:47:39 <andi5> i have no clue what they are about though
11:47:50 <t00r> first thing different i noticed was that the tip of the day window came out.
11:48:00 <t00r> under win2k on vmware that doesn't appear.
11:48:18 <andi5> is that the same or similar win2k installation?
11:48:51 <andi5> networking is an interesting issue as well... that is certainly different in your vmware guest
11:48:55 <t00r> the standalone win2k had sp4 and a bunch of updates.
11:50:27 <t00r> networking works fine. it's set to bridged mode.
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11:52:46 <andi5> it may work great, but some constellations (of planets and alike) seem to make problems to some people
11:53:57 <t00r> or phases of the moon, or the tides, or the length of my right index fingernail. :-)
11:55:02 <andi5> no, the length of your right index fingernail does not matter... but take care of your left one!
11:55:18 <t00r> words of wisdom. :-D
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16:41:28 <Charles> How do I get the ENTER(), LEAVE() and DEBUG() C functions to produce any output? Do I need a special command-line option when starting GnuCash?
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17:13:42 <jsled> Charles: yes. --debug.
17:13:52 <jsled> Those macros basically translate to g_debug() calls, IIRC.
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17:15:26 <Charles> I tried "gnucash --debug" but it only seemed to get me the output of PINFO().
17:16:59 <Charles> How do I use --log? Something like "gnucash --log gnc.engine=debug"?
17:17:09 <jsled> hmmm … oh, right. --debug really sets stuff to 'info' level, usually.
17:17:37 <jsled> that looks about right.
17:25:11 <Charles> Great, I got it working. Easier than I thought. Thanks.
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19:00:07 <jsled> hmm. To moderate through a bunch of angry screeds to gnucash-user...
19:00:12 <jsled> (or not)
19:00:16 <andi5> ham or spam?
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19:01:21 <jsled> it's not spam … and at least 3 of the 4 do mention gnucash. But the first doesn't really, and the author admits that it doesn't directly, but he <paraphrase>wanted all linux programmers to read it so they could grow up</>
19:01:33 <jsled> andi5: are you familar with linuxhater?
19:01:50 <andi5> i have read a bit about him and instantly disliked his opinions
19:01:56 <jsled> Oh, no, he's great.
19:02:16 <andi5> hm... is that absolute?
19:02:40 <jsled> well, no. but I think he speaks truth more so than not.
19:02:47 <andi5> anyway... did he mention gnucash anywhere?
19:02:58 <jsled> Not to my knowledge.
19:03:06 <andi5> wow... that is what i do as well... am i great?
19:03:20 <jsled> But these moderated messages are just bile without the redeeming knowledge and understanding.
19:03:34 <jsled> yes, you are great, andi5. :)
19:03:38 <andi5> ah, ok :-D
19:04:02 <jsled> Ah, well, I'll moderate them through. They're not spam.
19:05:06 <andi5> ohoh
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22:00:32 <student> Hello all, I am looking for any info and adding a "difference" column to the budget report. Thanks
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22:11:12 <russ> just updated to 2.2.6 via fink - have a problem w/price editor; after getting prices & closing the window, gnucash crashes w:OTHER <> file gailtreeview.c: line 3604 (garbage_collect_cell_data): assertion failed: (GAIL_IS_TREE_VIEW (data))
22:11:12 <russ> Abort trap
22:12:25 <russ> system is macosx 10.4.11
22:13:35 <student> anyone have any info on adding a "difference" column to the budget report?
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