2008-07-19 GnuCash IRC logs

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12:36:19 <Rolf1> warlord-afk: It would be really cool if you found the time to unblock galapagos
12:36:22 <Rolf1> https://code.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/gnucash/trunk
12:36:43 <Rolf1> sorry, wrong machine
12:36:46 <Rolf1> neumayer is blocked
12:37:05 <warlord-afk> Is it? I dont remember blocking it...
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12:37:14 <warlord> What's the IP Address?
12:38:42 <warlord> Ahh, found it.
12:39:14 <warlord> Okay, unblocked.
12:39:59 <warlord> Rolf1: done.
12:40:10 <Rolf1> Thanks
12:40:31 <Rolf1> Isn't this actually more work than having some kind of timer?
12:40:50 <Rolf1> You could of course have a block-forever-list for some hard offenders
12:41:03 <Rolf1> I'd hate to have to hand-hold my server that much
12:42:52 <warlord> Oh, I'm pretty sure I manually blocked it last time and just forgot to unblock it.
12:43:08 <warlord> It's really not a huge amount of manual effort.
12:43:15 <warlord> Maybe a few times a year.
12:43:23 <warlord> (on average)
12:44:24 <warlord> Now, having an http rate-limiter would definitely be a good thing.
13:01:40 <Rolf1> warlord: neumayer seems to be still blocked
13:01:43 <Rolf1> https://code.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/gnucash/trunk
13:06:49 <warlord> Rolf1: what's the IP Address? 91.189.90.144 isn't blocked by me.
13:07:07 <Rolf1> I am not sure about the IP
13:07:14 <Rolf1> I am asking in #launchpad
13:07:19 <Rolf1> so far no answer
13:07:30 <Rolf1> where did you get that number, from the logs?
13:07:32 <warlord> nevermind.
13:07:57 <warlord> It was still blocked. Must've been in the list twice.
13:08:00 <warlord> Fixed.
13:08:01 <warlord> Sorry.
13:08:06 <Rolf1> OK, thanks
13:08:11 <warlord> And I found that number from DNS.
13:10:23 <Rolf1> well, neumayer could have been anything
13:10:35 <Rolf1> but neumayer.canonical.com is one of course the one
13:10:38 <warlord> Nah, "canonical.com" was assumed.
13:10:40 <Rolf1> import looking good now
13:10:42 <warlord> right.
13:10:43 <warlord> good.
13:11:04 <warlord> I'll be offline soon and wont be back online for about, oh, 18 hours..
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17:38:06 <andi5> jsled: ping
17:38:13 <jsled> pong
17:38:17 <andi5> quick :)
17:38:23 <jsled> Happen to be around. :)
17:38:32 <andi5> i just had an idea and wanted to hear some quick opinions :)
17:39:03 <andi5> what do you think about abandoning stable/unstable releases and switch to one trunk to make releases on and otherwise (possible unstable) feature branches?
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17:39:26 <andi5> i am not sure whether it is legal to compare with linux :)
17:40:28 <jsled> Meh. It's similar to what has been happening over the last couple of years, I think, in that trunk doesn't get major new additions after a stable release.
17:41:12 <jsled> And, at some point, you do need to start doing integration testing between the features for the forward-looking trunk, which probably necessitates a separate stable and trunk=unstable split.
17:42:45 <andi5> well, our branches are rebased some times as well, so why cannot the integration tests happen there? ... and releases can be deferred or features unapplied if they make problems
17:43:52 <andi5> i do not say that everything has to happen on a special branch .... but right now we are backporting almost every changeset, real development as well, compared to mere small bugfixes
17:44:22 <andi5> otoh new features, like the csv import sit and wait for other features to be merged into trunk
17:44:32 <jsled> Yeah, we spend probably too much time on stable releases, but don't have enough momentum for new releases.
17:47:42 <andi5> so, if there is enough time for testing, what is the problem with merging complete features into one mainline?
17:52:40 <andi5> actually, i even think that having less momentum makes it easier to merge back into what is not a moving target
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20:29:31 <andi5> nbinon1: hiho
20:33:34 <andi5> Rolf1: ping
20:47:55 <nbinon1> andi5: hi
20:49:15 <andi5> thanks for your response! ... fwiw, the fix is shaping well... i plan to apply it tomorrow and get some feedback during the week
20:49:37 <andi5> shaping better than expected, btw :)
20:49:50 <andi5> if only aqbanking would not crash after each successful transaction ;-)
20:50:19 <nbinon1> great!
20:55:14 <nbinon1> andi5: any plans to announce a 2.2.6 date? Charles seems to be asking...
20:55:17 <andi5> ha! now it does not crash anymore, as *byproduct* of the patch :) ... seems as if passing NULL as result context to aqbanking works for some versions better than for others!
20:55:41 <nbinon1> nice
20:55:45 <andi5> sure (this time) ... but i am not multi-taskian :)
20:56:22 <andi5> so we actually check for balances and transactions after issuing a transaction now
20:56:36 <nbinon1> ok :)
20:57:23 <andi5> i wonder whether anyone has tested that feature on windows yet... someday we will probably add some sugar stuff (gmp, gwen3, aq3) to p/win32... someday
20:59:13 <nbinon1> true
21:00:44 <nbinon1> are gmp/gwen3 associated with your aq3 changes? (sorry I don't download transactions)
21:01:07 <andi5> aq3 depends on gwen3, gwen3 depends on gmp
21:01:41 <nbinon1> ah
21:01:42 <andi5> for gmp i have a working function that i assembled for guile1.8 quite a while ago
21:02:29 <andi5> hm... and we could drop openssl and compile libgcrypt instead
21:02:48 <andi5> actually, some tasks would have to be done then :)
21:07:26 <nbinon1> why would we replace openssl? has aq3 switched from openssl?
21:07:44 <andi5> yep!
21:07:58 <andi5> debian finally ships aqbanking
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21:08:50 <nbinon1> ok, I'm feeling a bit out of the loop here, let me try to sum up the changes required so that I, or others could take a stab at it in our free time.
21:09:30 <nbinon1> we replace aq2 with aq3, requiring replacement of openssl with libgcrypt
21:09:41 <nbinon1> nothing else uses openssl, so we can drop that
21:10:28 <andi5> actually, we probably need to check whether finance::quote still works then... i cannot remember
21:10:38 <nbinon1> ok
21:13:04 <nbinon1> we need gwen3 for aq3....replacing the curent gwenhywfar...which currently uses openssl, probably switched to libgcrypt
21:14:17 <nbinon1> and we need gmp, the gnu multiple arithmetic library, a new dependency? or how does this function you have for guile fit in?
21:14:38 <andi5> guile1.8 depends on gmp as well
21:14:51 <andi5> but we do not need that
21:15:15 <andi5> i just meant that i have built gmp before successfully within install.sh
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21:18:16 <nbinon1> ok, we do install guile, but I can't see gmp...I must be missing something
21:18:33 <andi5> it is not committed
21:19:09 <nbinon1> ok
21:20:26 <andi5> http://pastebin.ca/1077187 may still work though
21:21:08 <nbinon1> thanks
21:22:13 <andi5> a little bit of glue script is missing, but merely fill in the gaps :)
21:23:00 <nbinon1> ok, I can't promise anything, but I'll see what I can do.
21:23:07 <andi5> hey, cool! :)
21:23:32 <andi5> i do not want to promise anything, but please ask me when you have any questions
21:23:45 <nbinon1> ok :)
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