2008-07-08 GnuCash IRC logs

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02:14:15 <laj> hi. how do I apply depreciation to my fixed assets?
02:18:01 <laj> for instance, last year I depreciated $245 worht of computer hardware.
02:18:19 <laj> what is the proper way to represent the loss of value to my fixed assets?
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06:42:09 <Rolf> good morning andi5
06:42:26 <andi5> moin moin :)
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09:18:20 <Rolf> looks like mails are not all coming through to the list
09:18:33 <Rolf> I received and sent mail a few hours ago which is still not on the list
09:18:45 <Rolf> Can somebody take a look?
09:18:45 <andi5> which list?
09:18:47 <Rolf> -dev
09:19:04 <Rolf> The Thomas Buschnell thing
09:20:42 <andi5> i do not see a pending task for you
09:21:47 <andi5> what is the subject?
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09:25:06 <warlord> And where did it get sent from?
09:27:38 <andi5> seems like irc is blocking him as well :-D
09:29:00 <warlord> then it's clearly not my problem ;)
09:29:02 <Rolf> my mail was sent from no2spam@nospam.arcornews.de
09:29:09 <warlord> what IP Address?
09:29:13 <Rolf> You guys are too impatient
09:29:22 <Rolf> That is a problem ;-)
09:29:28 <Rolf> IP of smarthost?
09:29:33 <warlord> Yes
09:29:37 <Rolf> mail.arcor.de I suppose
09:29:38 <andi5> sind sie zu ungeduldig, bist du zu langsam... fisherman's friend ;-)
09:29:42 <Rolf> but it could have been another one
09:29:45 <Rolf> Wait
09:29:53 <Rolf> I usually sent mailing list stuff via gmane.org
09:30:03 <Rolf> But there is another mail from
09:30:18 <Rolf> Micha Lenk
09:30:41 <Rolf> It was sent from aiolos.lenk.info [85.214.124.154])
09:30:52 <Rolf> I received the personal copy
09:31:12 <Rolf> The mail to the list never showed up
09:31:15 <Rolf> Message-ID: <48734153.8050302@lenk.info>
09:31:28 <warlord> Is it in the archive?
09:32:04 <andi5> i still miss the subject :)
09:33:23 <warlord> I still see mail flowing..
09:34:18 <Rolf> subject is "Re: 2.2.5 released"
09:34:31 <Rolf> well, let's wait for it to show up
09:35:46 <warlord> Once it does we can look at the headers and figure out where the delay is/was..
09:35:54 <warlord> was this to -devel or -user?
09:36:45 <Rolf> -devel
09:37:23 <andi5> but you sent a second mail with that subject, right?
09:39:36 <andi5> ahem rolf, ... you do not receive two mails when you are one of the named recipients
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09:40:00 <Rolf> I do
09:40:03 <andi5> that is an activated mailman setting
09:40:12 <Rolf> Maybe that is because I use gmane.org
09:40:16 <bluefox> hey
09:40:21 <bluefox> I can't get a Balance for my stock accounts
09:40:42 <Rolf> andi5: You are of course right, I don't receive two mails
09:40:51 <Rolf> I receive a personal copy
09:40:57 <Rolf> I don't receive any mail from the list
09:41:00 <bluefox> I changed one of them to be 1/100000 fraction traded, and now it will take transactions but will NOT put anything in the Balance column, and the balance showsu p as null.
09:41:03 <Rolf> I read the list only in gmane
09:41:38 <bluefox> oh
09:41:45 <bluefox> exited and restarted gnucash and it fixed
09:41:45 <bluefox> wtf
09:42:23 <Rolf> andi5: The response I sent to your mail did not arrive
09:42:36 <andi5> ok
09:43:25 <andi5> you send those mails through gmane, right? maybe they lag behind, because i did not receive a mail either
09:43:25 <Rolf> It could also have been that gmane is holding it ransom ;-)
09:43:37 <Rolf> I don't send courtesy copies
09:43:48 <andi5> hm, ok
09:43:52 <Rolf> If I did they would have been sent out from arcor
09:45:01 <StocksR> From : http://gmane.org/post.php
09:45:01 <StocksR> No more than one message is sent per user per five minutes. If you post more than one message per five minutes, the messages are spooled and sent out later. No action is required from you.
09:45:26 <Rolf> it was more than 5 minutes
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09:59:05 <warlord> FWIW, mail I just sent to the list made it through, so the delay isn't at gnucash.org
10:00:39 <andi5> warlord: i will not be able to discuss a lot now, but what is your general opinion about merging branches/aqbanking3 into trunk in the following days? i suppose the remaining issues can be fixed there, or even later (after a possible backport)
10:00:56 <warlord> Rolf: i see your "2.2.5" response to Micha
10:01:14 <warlord> andi5: I dont know.. Do you think the branch is done?
10:01:17 <andi5> it should be rather stable, i have received several positive answers... and it should not touch running code a lot
10:02:01 <andi5> missing functionality only concerns those switching from aqbanking2 to aqbanking3 ... but for them gnucash and aqbanking have been incompatible anyway
10:03:09 <andi5> so mainly the branch is done... some things may still to be to be cleaned up though
10:03:29 <warlord> Do you remove the AqB2 code?
10:03:35 <warlord> Are you sure there are no regressions?
10:03:49 <andi5> no, there are two importer modules, hbci/ and aqbanking/
10:04:00 <andi5> only one is compiled, given the version of aqbanking found
10:04:14 <warlord> ah, ok.
10:05:09 <andi5> i am rather sure that there are no regressions, but in the end i am only human :)
10:06:03 <warlord> If you think it's ready, then go ahead and merge.
10:07:14 <andi5> ok, thanks... concerning the backport i will write to the mailing list, probably at the weekend... i still do not know how much this will blow up the tarball...
10:07:46 <warlord> "blow up the tarball"?
10:08:14 <andi5> ah well, it is not a lot of code... but the tarball will increase in size
10:09:02 <Rolf> warlord: It is the response to Andi that is missing
10:10:08 <warlord> Ah, ok.
10:10:21 <Rolf> andi5: As long as the binary does not blow up the computer it is running on ;-)
10:10:38 <warlord> andi5: it's bound to happen. don't worry about that.
10:10:44 <andi5> that should not make much of a difference, if any at all
10:10:50 <warlord> Rolf: I think it's a delay at your end.
10:10:58 <andi5> given that only hbci or aqbanking is compiled...and shipped
10:11:07 <Rolf> @tell cstim Do you think it is time to enable-locale-specific-tax by default?
10:11:07 <gncbot> Rolf: The operation succeeded.
10:11:14 <Rolf> warlord: could be
10:11:22 <Rolf> I'll keep an eye on it
10:17:45 <warlord> ok
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10:44:43 <marcot> Hello, I've made a small correction to pt_BR.po. Where should I send it?
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10:47:55 <warlord> gnucash-devel
10:48:56 <marcot> warlord: thanks.
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13:15:42 <lenscape> If I resize a find dialog to make it taller, the result list doesn't get any bigger. Pointlessly, the search criteria box gets bigger instead.
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13:57:33 <warlord> ok, file a bug report.
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14:31:11 <andi5> lenscape: what version of gnucash?
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16:36:52 <andi5> Note: aqbanking3 has landed on trunk ... successfully? nobody knows :)
16:45:03 <jsled> andi5: that's awesome
16:45:19 * warlord is pulling it down and building (although I don't have AQB3 locally)
16:45:35 <andi5> do you have aq2?
16:46:00 <andi5> honestly, i think the most important part is to make sure we (i) do not break the aqbanking2 users
16:46:18 <andi5> i have spent some time thinking about it, but you never know :)
16:47:52 <warlord> yes, I have abq2
16:47:54 <warlord> aqb2
16:48:32 <andi5> note that --enable-hbci is "obsolete" now, i introduced --enable-aqbanking instead
16:48:42 <andi5> both should work though
16:49:48 <jsled> does --enable-hbci issue a warning/notice about the change?
16:50:24 <andi5> no
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16:51:18 <andi5> the help string just mentions that -hbci is an alias for -aqbanking (i tend to regard it as obsolete though)
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17:11:53 <warlord> andi5: you failed to add files to POTFILES.in ?
17:12:18 <andi5> very likely :-)
17:13:40 <andi5> damnit, i did not even branch off before we added that file to svn ;-)
17:14:00 <warlord> So you never ran "make check" in your branch?
17:14:15 <warlord> * wags his finger at andi5 *
17:14:28 <andi5> does "make check" suffice for that?
17:14:38 <andi5> yeah, you got me :)
17:14:46 <warlord> Bad dev!
17:14:54 <warlord> And yes, "make check" suffices
17:15:00 <andi5> no dev at all, i am just a monkey pressing random keys
17:15:35 <warlord> :-P
17:15:39 <warlord> I've met you. I know better.
17:15:47 <andi5> haha ;-)
17:15:58 <warlord> I have a picture to prove it!
17:15:58 <andi5> monkey in disguise
17:16:02 <andi5> ooh no!
17:19:41 <warlord> :-P
17:20:52 <andi5> haha... further -Wformat warnings... in tests now :)
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17:47:07 <andi5> hm... for "make distcheck" my system cannot find intltool-extract...
17:47:22 <andi5> not even the .in file
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17:49:16 <warlord> hmmmm
17:50:10 <andi5> what script is to generate that file? intltoolize?
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17:50:44 <warlord> I think so???
17:51:33 <andi5> hm... i do not know... i have v0.40.0... that script does not contain the string intltool-extract, but that need not mean anything
17:53:19 <warlord> It's part of my intltool 0.35.5 packag
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17:53:34 <andi5> what? intltoolize?
17:53:40 <warlord> intltool-extract
17:53:53 <andi5> yes, but without .in
17:54:05 <warlord> correct
17:54:18 <andi5> does your trunk contain intltool-extract.in now?
17:55:10 <warlord> yes.
17:55:17 <andi5> mine does not
17:55:30 <andi5> :(
17:56:08 <warlord> Could be 0.35 v. 0.40
17:56:13 <andi5> yep
17:56:25 <andi5> i am loving it
17:56:38 <warlord> If you say so.
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17:56:51 <andi5> sure
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17:57:51 <andi5> why do we ship intltool-extract.in at all?
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17:58:10 <lenscape> andi5: version 2.2.0
17:58:17 <warlord> because auto-tools does.
17:58:18 <andi5> is that really filled in by config.status?
17:58:32 <andi5> lenscape: please update first... i think it got fixed in 2.2.1 or 2.2.2
17:58:36 <warlord> autogen.sh
17:58:59 <andi5> yes, but why do we add it to the tarball?
17:59:02 <lenscape> andi5: that's the latest in the repos
17:59:11 <warlord> andi5: because auto-tools put it in there.
17:59:14 <andi5> lenscape: i am sorry then
17:59:22 <andi5> ahhhh...
17:59:28 <andi5> no ;-)
17:59:55 <andi5> i mean http://svn.gnucash.org/trac/browser/gnucash/trunk/Makefile.am#L74
18:01:51 <warlord> well, maybe 0.40 is just broken.
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18:02:08 <warlord> ;)
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18:02:13 <andi5> maybe, maybe not... i guess i will have to invest some time for that
18:02:23 <warlord> or just back out to 0.3x
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18:03:30 <lenscape> ah - 2.2.4 is available
18:03:42 <warlord> actually, 2.2.5 is out even
18:03:45 <andi5> boah... that is just one behind the latest stable :-D
18:05:22 <andi5> ok, time to say goodbye... arrivederci
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18:07:25 <warlord> see ya
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19:47:10 <rdg> how do you use the "close book" function in gnucash 2.2.4 ? -- i find very little documentation.
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