2008-06-11 GnuCash IRC logs
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08:29:40 <Rolf> Hi, can anybody give me a hand to get gnucash to compile? http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=347922#c32 It used to work fine a few weeks ago. warlord?
08:30:45 <warlord> Rolf: why do you have both guile 1.6 and 1.8?
08:30:50 <warlord> You dont need g-wrap at all for 22
08:30:51 <warlord> 2.2
08:31:20 <Rolf> Must be a dependency thing
08:31:24 <Rolf> I'll take a look
08:32:15 <warlord> You also appear to have both "slib" and "guile-1.6-slib"... Not sure what that means.
08:32:23 <warlord> But I'm NOT a Debian/Ubuntu guy.
08:53:41 <Rolf> warlord: What OS do you use?
08:53:53 <warlord> Linux
08:53:57 <warlord> :-P
08:54:03 <warlord> If you mean what DISTRO, I use Fedora
08:55:21 <Rolf> yuck
08:55:26 <Rolf> sounds terrible
08:55:29 <Rolf> ;-)
08:55:58 <warlord> What's wrong with Fedora?
08:56:04 <warlord> It's not like it's Slackware or anything...
08:56:41 <Rolf> I have no personal recent experience, but when I tested RedHat (back when), it was a nightmare
08:56:58 <jsled> seems like things have changed a lot, in the last few years.
08:57:09 <Rolf> My recent experience is that people trying to run Openembedded on Fedora have problems all the time
08:57:17 <jsled> (not that I've used it, but looking from the outside at reviews and whatnot)
08:57:27 <jsled> what type of problems?
08:57:31 * Rolf is a happy Ubuntu users
08:57:40 <Rolf> I'm not 100% sure
08:57:46 <Rolf> It should be in the bug tracker
08:58:10 <Rolf> http://bugs.openembedded.net/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=fedora
08:58:43 <Rolf> May not be all and I may even be mistaken, but I do seem to recollect that fedora ppl where having problems noone else had
08:59:28 <Rolf> And I was told that creating something like http://blog.leggewie.org/?p=39 for rpm-based systems would be a nightmare
08:59:54 <Rolf> I guess, I just like aptitude and friends very much that I would never consider an rpm-based system
09:00:34 <warlord> Rolf: rpm -ivh http://path-to-yum-config
09:00:44 <warlord> then yum install openembedded
09:00:53 <warlord> then oe-setup ...
09:01:12 <warlord> so yes, you are mistaken
09:01:48 <warlord> It's even FEWER commands on Fedora because one doesn't have to run the "aptitude-update" command
09:01:54 <warlord> ;)
09:02:37 <Rolf> or so goes the theory ;-)
09:02:48 <Rolf> I know that alien should be able to do this
09:03:01 <Rolf> I would never trust 100%, though
09:03:20 <Rolf> Unless yum now understands deb natively
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09:24:53 <warlord> well, you'd have to build RPMs, but the point remains that the technology is there.
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09:59:43 <Rolf> I was told that every distro out there uses slightly different RPMs
09:59:54 <Rolf> thus, nightmare
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10:29:02 <warlord> Well, yes and no.
10:29:21 <warlord> but it's really not that big of a nightmare... no more than trying to install an ubuntu RPM on debian
10:29:27 <warlord> er, ubuntu deb
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10:40:23 <Rolf> warlord: configure runs fine now, but "make clean" errors out with http://rafb.net/p/A0WI4541.html
10:40:47 <warlord> "make clean" fails?!?
10:40:57 <warlord> Is this a tarball? SVN?
10:42:20 <Rolf> svn
10:42:32 <Rolf> yes, strange enough, isn't it
10:43:08 <Rolf> I was missing the correct autoconf/automake earlier, but have installed version 1.9 now
10:44:17 <warlord> re-run ./autogen ?
10:44:53 <Rolf> OK
10:51:32 <warlord> So that's working now?
10:59:29 <Rolf> I running that command now
10:59:47 <Rolf> Has libtool recently been added to compile-time dependencies for gnucash ?
11:00:13 <jsled> recently? No, we've been using libtool for years.
11:00:34 <Rolf> well, I am asking because it is not listed as build-dep in the debian/ubuntu package
11:01:57 <jsled> I can't speak to the packaging, there. It probably should be, but probably falls into that category of "so widely deployed it's assumed".
11:02:05 <jsled> I know the gentoo packaging does list it.
11:02:16 * jsled shrugs
11:03:16 <warlord> libtoolize an autogen-required tool.
11:03:37 <warlord> it's not needed by configure, or by people using the tarball.
11:03:42 <warlord> have you read README.svn?
11:12:39 <Rolf> read it now
11:12:46 <Rolf> I was following a wiki tutorial
11:12:58 <Rolf> It seems the order of commands given was not the best
11:13:15 <Rolf> "make clean" before autogen
11:13:50 <Rolf> It's just that it used to work fine like that a few months ago, even from svn
11:15:48 <warlord> Not if you change the version of your auto-tools.
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12:23:36 <Rolf> things are looking good now
12:23:40 <warlord> good
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17:52:03 <Rolf> I am giving gnucash another go. I'd like to use it for tracking expensed made on other's behalf to prepare a summary later on and request repayment. Thus, I have a small number of expense categories (~5) a small number of clients.
17:52:45 <Rolf> I'd like to create a report now to show me the money owed by each individual split up among the different expense categories per quarte or month
17:53:42 <Rolf> Every client has an account and every expense type has an account. I book from the expense account to the client account.
17:54:23 <Rolf> Is there a report I could already use or customize easily for this type?
17:56:56 <Rolf> jsled, warlord-afk: ?
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20:24:05 <harlan> Does gnucash (internally) track both posting dates (timestamps) and transaction dates?
20:24:35 <andi5> yes
20:24:38 <harlan> cool.
20:24:56 <andi5> see your data file, it is just an xml file, optionally gzipped
20:25:14 <harlan> OK, will do.
20:25:30 <harlan> How miserable would it be to make gnucash multiuser?
20:27:07 <andi5> i suppose you read http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/FAQ#Q:_Can_I_use_GnuCash_with_multiple_users.3F__Maybe_via_the_SQL_backend.3F ?
20:27:19 <harlan> yes
20:27:35 <harlan> if that's the "best" way to go multiuser, I'll reread it.
20:27:53 <andi5> ahem... that is not what i said
20:27:59 <harlan> ah :)
20:27:59 <andi5> anyway, it is late for me
20:28:03 <harlan> no worries
20:28:09 <andi5> ciao
20:28:13 <harlan> I'm game to chat about this later.
20:28:16 <harlan> ciao
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22:20:36 <Anonu> hey, what's the best way to ask for support about gnucash in here?
22:21:11 <Anonu> hello?
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