2008-05-05 GnuCash IRC logs

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04:22:08 <Jannick> @tell warlord: I was rejected to download from http://svn.gnucash.org/repo/gnucash/trunk with some software called tortoise (for Windows). Error: "403 Forbidden (http://svn.gnucash.org)" Is there some access pass word needed - or is it just that I havent configured tortoise correctly?
04:22:08 <gncbot> Jannick: The operation succeeded.
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09:07:01 <warlord> .
09:07:11 <warlord> Jannick: Nope, no password.
09:07:30 <warlord> Can you get to http://svn.gnucash.org/trac/ with a web browser?
09:08:09 <Jannick> Yes, some welcome page of trac/GC.
09:09:25 <Jannick> Strange, it looked like I am rejected for some reason.
09:10:53 <warlord> Could be tortoise.
09:11:28 <warlord> If you can get to that http address via a web browser then it's not the GnuCash server that's blocking you.
09:11:36 <warlord> Maybe you have an HTTP Proxy?
09:12:37 <Jannick> No I don't think so. It might be tortoise and its configuration. I will ask them. Thanx one more time! :)
09:13:20 <Jannick> Another Q: What compression method does GC use?
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09:18:24 <Jannick> warlord: Forget it - it seems to be some common zip format. I can parse things out of the zipped GC file now. This was a piece of work!!! Using Python now. ;) Weird - getting almost multilingual. Am not fluent of course. ;)
09:19:12 <warlord> I've never used tortioise. I've always just used the svn commandline (even on Windows)
09:19:30 <warlord> The data file is compressed using gzip. You can tell GnuCash NOT to compress in the preferences.
09:20:46 <Jannick> Yes, but if I call the GC file from outside, I don't want to zip and unzip it all the time changing the GC preferences.
09:21:04 <Jannick> svn: I think I will get that thing, too.
09:27:50 <warlord> "call the GC file from outside"???
09:28:24 <warlord> I'm just saying that if you want some other program to 'read' the gnucash data file you can just tell gnucash not to compress it and it will save it uncompressed.
09:32:26 <Jannick> Yes, of course. But uncompressing it by changing the GC preferences is not needed here, since the program I have adapted now can parse the compressed GC file. This makes it more comfortable such that I can get information out of the current GC file
09:33:14 <warlord> ok
09:35:43 <warlord> @tell andi5 Can you help http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=506499
09:35:43 <gncbot> warlord: The operation succeeded.
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09:46:46 <micha> Hi
09:47:00 <micha> who is working on the aqbanking3 branch?
09:47:19 <micha> I would like to help with it
09:50:10 <warlord> I believe andi5 is
09:51:43 <micha> yes, the last commits were done by him
09:54:32 <micha> but you know nobody else working on it, right?
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10:01:31 <warlord> Honestly I dont know. You'd have to ask him
10:01:35 <warlord> Send him email
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10:41:07 <micha> will do so
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10:43:30 <snaidoo> Hi all
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10:45:40 <snaidoo> hi evryone
10:45:49 <snaidoo> im a nubie to gnucash
10:45:59 <snaidoo> was hoping i could get some answers
10:46:24 <snaidoo> like how would i integrate gnucash to work with a db server
10:46:40 <snaidoo> could i use xml files and export to my db?
10:46:52 <snaidoo> does gnucash have an api for this?
10:46:59 <snaidoo> any help will be appreciated
10:48:30 <warlord> there's no good way (right now) to integrate into a db server.
10:48:36 <warlord> There's a GDA backend being worked on..
10:49:50 <snaidoo> GDA?
10:50:08 <snaidoo> is it possible to export my files to xml
10:50:15 <snaidoo> then export them into my db
10:50:27 <warlord> your data file *IS* XML.
10:50:33 <snaidoo> oh
10:50:44 <snaidoo> well step one then i guess lol
10:51:01 <snaidoo> thought i'd use java to process the file then
10:51:37 <snaidoo> hmmm
10:51:45 <snaidoo> thanks for the reply warlord
10:51:58 <warlord> What exactly are you trying to do?
10:54:00 <snaidoo> wanted to try and integrate gnucash with a backend db server
10:54:27 <snaidoo> so instead of writing to files all the time it would record the transactions in the db instead
10:54:58 <snaidoo> could secure the db on a totally different server
10:55:19 <snaidoo> instead writing files to the local filesystem
10:55:35 <warlord> snaidoo: Ah, so you want the GDA backend.
10:56:25 <snaidoo> comes down to that yes
10:57:43 <warlord> So I'd recommend you help with that. It's on the gda-dev2 branch
10:59:44 <snaidoo> will take a look :)
11:00:05 <snaidoo> thanks
11:00:19 <snaidoo> what is estimated time of completion?
11:01:20 <warlord> Umm.. "when it's ready"?
11:01:40 <snaidoo> lol
11:01:45 <warlord> All depends on how much work Phil gets done with it.
11:01:58 <warlord> If you're willing to help him develop it, that should help make it get done faster.
11:10:36 <jsled> Work's been going on for (at least) a year, now, on-and-off.
11:11:34 <warlord> But supposedly it runs.
11:11:38 <jsled> snaidoo: Also, if you're interested in working with the gnucash datafile in java, take a look at <http://gnucashtoqif.sourceforge.net/>, which might have some stuff you can leverage.
11:12:28 <snaidoo> thanks guys
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18:07:53 <andi5> warlord: it was a good idea to check out my gncbotbox :-D
18:09:28 <warlord> ???
18:10:20 <andi5> well, he is my answering machine :)
18:11:50 <andi5> oh... you asked whether there is an easy way to recognize windows from within guile.... at least there is no obvious one... in some script we can detect msys by an environment variable it sets, but otherwise... i do not know one
18:12:46 <andi5> oh, and there already is a bug about formatting specifiers, as %e can make gnucash crash
18:13:15 <warlord> CRASH?
18:13:19 <warlord> I thought it just failed to actually work.
18:13:21 <andi5> yep
18:13:38 <andi5> cool implementation, right?
18:14:02 <warlord> Oh yeah.
18:14:08 <warlord> Maybe we need a gnc_strftime() ?
18:14:56 <andi5> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=507865
18:15:06 <andi5> oh no... i am ignoring milestones :(
18:16:59 <andi5> maybe...
18:17:08 <andi5> i will think about it
18:19:02 <warlord> The other option is to move the string to a C string with a swig wrapper and then we can #ifdef the definition of the string based on G_OS_WIN32.
18:19:24 <warlord> And maybe we could even N_() the default string so we can localize it!
18:20:46 <andi5> that will not help with #507865 as the formatting string is user-customizable
18:21:00 <andi5> anyway, i18n is good! :)
18:22:58 <warlord> I was more thinking about what to supply as the DEFAULT string.
18:23:07 <warlord> Users can always shoot themselves in the foot.
18:23:11 <warlord> But the default should work properly.
18:23:20 <andi5> yep
18:24:02 <andi5> i suppose we need both, gnc_strftime and a locale-dependent default string, that typically works (if possible)
18:25:16 <andi5> ok, i have to go.. see you
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22:03:24 <warlord> @tell Jannick FYI, my username is "warlord", not "warlord:". When you @tell warlord: gncbot will never tell me the message.
22:03:24 <gncbot> warlord: The operation succeeded.
22:05:58 <jsled> @tell warlord:
22:05:58 <gncbot> jsled: (tell <nick> <text>) -- Tells <nick> <text> the next time <nick> is in seen. <nick> can contain wildcard characters, and the first matching nick will be given the note.
22:06:04 <jsled> @memo warlord:
22:06:04 <gncbot> jsled: Error: "memo" is not a valid command.
22:06:07 <jsled> hmm.
22:06:40 <jsled> @notes warlord:
22:06:40 <gncbot> jsled: Sent 49 weeks, 0 days, 2 hours, and 48 minutes ago: <jsled> can you add me as a sourceforge admin, please? TIA., Sent 45 weeks, 2 days, 14 hours, and 8 minutes ago: <cstim> I don't know w.r.t. 2.0.6. as well., Sent 45 weeks, 2 days, 14 hours, and 7 minutes ago: <cstim> http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Announcement_2.2.0 Are the quotes from you in that announcement fine? You can just go ahead and change them :-), (2 more messages)
22:06:41 <warlord> @tell warlord: foo
22:06:42 <gncbot> warlord: The operation succeeded.
22:06:56 <jsled> @notes warlord:
22:06:56 <gncbot> jsled: Sent 49 weeks, 0 days, 2 hours, and 48 minutes ago: <jsled> can you add me as a sourceforge admin, please? TIA., Sent 45 weeks, 2 days, 14 hours, and 8 minutes ago: <cstim> I don't know w.r.t. 2.0.6. as well., Sent 45 weeks, 2 days, 14 hours, and 7 minutes ago: <cstim> http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Announcement_2.2.0 Are the quotes from you in that announcement fine? You can just go ahead and change them :-), (2 more messages)
22:07:13 <warlord> Hmm...
22:07:27 <warlord> but I can't set my nick to warlord: ...
22:07:30 <jsled> Ah, a couple of @more s and the last message came through.
22:07:38 <warlord> Oh?
22:07:40 <warlord> @notes warlord:
22:07:40 <gncbot> warlord: Sent 49 weeks, 0 days, 2 hours, and 49 minutes ago: <jsled> can you add me as a sourceforge admin, please? TIA., Sent 45 weeks, 2 days, 14 hours, and 8 minutes ago: <cstim> I don't know w.r.t. 2.0.6. as well., Sent 45 weeks, 2 days, 14 hours, and 8 minutes ago: <cstim> http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Announcement_2.2.0 Are the quotes from you in that announcement fine? You can just go ahead and change them :-), (2 more messages)
22:07:43 <warlord> @more
22:07:43 <gncbot> warlord: Sent 3 days, 14 hours, and 42 minutes ago: <Jannick> In case you have an idea on this, could you please drop me an email? Thanks. Best wishes, J., Sent 17 hours and 45 minutes ago: <Jannick> I was rejected to download from http://svn.gnucash.org/repo/gnucash/trunk with some software called tortoise (for Windows). Error: 403 Forbidden (http://svn.gnucash.org) Is there some access pass word needed - or is it (1 more message)
22:07:45 <warlord> @more
22:07:45 <gncbot> warlord: just that I havent configured tortoise correctly?, and Sent just now: <warlord> foo
22:07:54 <jsled> Apparently cstim and I have done the same thing. :)
22:07:59 <warlord> Heh
22:08:06 <jsled> pobody's nerfect.
22:08:56 <warlord> so.. how do I tell gncbot to forget them?
22:09:38 <jsled> hmm.
22:09:46 <jsled> @notes
22:09:46 <gncbot> jsled: I currently have notes waiting for andi, andi5:, benoitg, chan, chintan, conrad:, cstim,, cstim:, dbr,, esadan, eweb, faga, fubar, hansfbaier, jakob, Jannick, jml, johnf, jsled:, KentonSmith,, larz3, lianto, naboo, nbinont-afk-till1800z, Nlex, PcPixel, prock:, Pzl, richard, rlaager, SegundoBob, sishen, sorush20, twiddle, ULL, walbert, warlord:, weehee, winjunkie, and yves.
22:10:22 <warlord> Maybe it needs to know that <foo>: == <foo>
22:10:26 <jsled> hmm. I don't see such a command.
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22:16:03 <warlord> ah well.
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23:54:49 <dezinho> Gnucash shudown when I try to open my file. Before that it tells me "Can't get lock file, open anyway?" (it's in portuguese). So during the loading it shutdown
23:54:58 <dezinho> how to solve it?
23:56:02 <warlord> What do you mean by "shutdown"?
23:56:35 <dezinho> the application is killed
23:57:10 <warlord> What OS/Distro?
23:57:56 <dezinho> Windows XP Pro
23:58:18 <warlord> What version of gnucash?
23:58:57 <dezinho> I've just upgrade it to 2.2.5, but the problem persists
23:59:24 <warlord> Does it ask you about the lock file every time?
23:59:48 <dezinho> yes, it's happening since today