2008-04-27 GnuCash IRC logs
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07:13:26 <andi5> @tell nbinont-afk-till1800z everything should be prepared... i hope your build succeeds as well :-)
07:13:26 <gncbot> andi5: The operation succeeded.
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08:41:11 <rarsa> Hi, How can I record the transactions for the following scenario:
08:41:29 <rarsa> I pay my car insurance from my checking account
08:41:59 <rarsa> e.g. $210
08:42:20 <rarsa> My son pays his part of the car insurance e.g. $90
08:43:29 <rarsa> The first part seems easy: Out from my "Asset: Checking" in to my "Expense: Car : Insurance"
08:43:55 <rarsa> As for the second part, as easy as it seems, I cannot figure out what accounts to set up or use
08:47:30 <andi5> hm... i am not an accountant, but why do you need to track your sons expenses?
08:51:35 <rarsa> It is not my son's expenses it is the fact that at the end of the day, the $90 come back to my checking account
08:52:23 <rarsa> I know that much, but "what account do they come from"?
08:55:29 <andi5> ah, i see.. i am sorry...
08:56:17 <rarsa> Actually as soon as I pay the insurance company, my son "owes" me 90$
08:56:47 <andi5> that sounds like a liability
08:56:51 <rarsa> So I cannot figure out that part.
08:59:12 <andi5> maybe http://svn.gnucash.org/docs/guide/loans_personalLoanToSomeOne.html explains this a bit
09:00:08 <andi5> you see i have no clue about accounting :)
09:00:12 <rarsa> Thank you, I've already read that
09:00:41 <rarsa> thank you anyway
09:02:26 <andi5> actually, what is wrong about those accounts?
09:04:45 <rarsa> That in that example "I" don't care how Peter spends the money, "I" just give the money to peter
09:05:05 <rarsa> In my example there is a third account the "Expense : car : Insurance"
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09:08:40 <andi5> ok, but do you care about how your son spends his money (of course you do in reality ;-))... i think you just want to make sure that your part of the expenses is tracked right.... so why not have 1) a split transaction, crediting checking and debiting money_loaned and exp:car:insurance... and later on credit money_loaned and debit checking when your son pays his part to you....
09:09:28 <rarsa> Sounds right
09:09:34 <rarsa> I'll try it. Thank you
09:09:37 <andi5> :-)
09:10:15 <rarsa> because in reality I just spend $100 on insurance, you are right.
09:10:25 <andi5> exactly
09:10:47 <rarsa> (Or actually in my example $120)
09:11:03 <andi5> 20 dollars, peanuts ;-)
09:11:12 <rarsa> I guess question answered.
09:11:18 <andi5> cool, have fun!
09:11:24 <rarsa> Thank you
09:11:27 <rarsa> U 2
09:11:31 <andi5> bye
09:11:38 <andi5> (or not bye, whatever :))
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14:50:11 <nbinont> andi5: thanks for the tarball. I'm building now.
14:50:22 <andi5> cool :)
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16:27:02 <pestilence> perhaps this question is pretty popular these days. but i can't find the answer.
16:27:15 <pestilence> the instructions on compiling with aqbanking support seem to be outdated for ubuntu hardy
16:28:09 <pestilence> does anyone have instructions on how to compile so that OFXDirectConnect works in ubuntu hardy?
16:33:39 <andi5> pestilence: make sure you compile aqbanking 2 and not version 3!
16:34:35 <pestilence> andi5: ok
16:35:00 <andi5> pestilence: see also http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/AqBanking3_Porting
16:35:42 <pestilence> but, if i compile against aqbanking 2 that shouldn't be an issue, right
16:36:16 <andi5> indeed, just make sure you compile aqbanking with the ofx backend
16:37:14 <pestilence> hrmm...the ubuntu packages for libaqbanking20-dev have version number 3.3.0+dfsg-1 :-/
16:37:21 <andi5> you see the problem :)
16:38:09 <pestilence> yes. it seems that using ubuntu hardy packaged sources isn't possible, then.
16:38:38 <andi5> take a look at http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Debian (somehow i assumed you started from there)
16:39:10 <pestilence> yes, i started from there. but it fails right from the start, since they removed libaqbanking16-dev from the repositories
16:39:38 <andi5> arrgh, so someone has to explain how to compile from sources then :)
16:40:26 <pestilence> i guess so
16:41:07 <pestilence> well, i can figure it out for myself. but it would be nice if there was a guide :-D
16:41:38 <andi5> there is plenty of information available on the net, but i do not know whether it still applies cleanly to the current situation
16:42:34 <pestilence> the thing i don't quite get about the instructions is, why do you have to install the binary version of libaqbanking16-dev if you are recompiling libaqbanking?
16:43:33 <andi5> i do not know
16:43:53 <andi5> personally, i have always compiled those libraries by myself
16:43:59 <pestilence> oh, ok
16:44:24 <andi5> but i am no good example :)
16:44:52 <andi5> have you tried micha lenks debian packages?
16:45:07 <pestilence> no.
16:45:12 <twunder> has anyone noticed that the due dates of postponed SXs revert to the orignal start dates?
16:45:29 <twunder> (using 2.2.x from svn r17056 on 2008-03-27)
16:45:37 <andi5> is that new?
16:46:01 <twunder> first time I've noticed it, and it's not right
16:46:31 <andi5> file it at bugilla.jsled.org :)
16:46:38 <andi5> +z
16:47:18 <andi5> so, no, i have not noticed that
17:14:35 <pestilence> what a pain. i don't understand why they removed libaqbanking16 from ubuntu
17:14:54 * pestilence is halfway through compiling all dependencies
17:22:25 * pestilence bangs head on wall. libaqbanking 2.2.3 won't compile against libofx-dev 0.9.0?
17:22:42 <andi5> huh?
17:23:02 <pestilence> when you enable the aqofxconnect backend
17:23:14 <pestilence> configure says configure: *** LibOFX>=0.8.0 is required for backend "aqofxconnect".
17:23:23 <pestilence> i have 0.9.0 installed :-/
17:24:45 <pestilence> fails on this test:
17:24:47 <pestilence> conftest.c:116: error: storage size of 'ac_aggr' isn't known
17:25:33 <andi5> why are you compiling aqbanking 2.2.3, btw?
17:25:54 <pestilence> what should i be compiling
17:26:06 <andi5> seems there is at least 2.3.3
17:26:09 <pestilence> my reason is, that's the version in gutsy
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17:26:21 <andi5> ok... maybe this has been fixed already, i do not know
17:26:35 <pestilence> and i looked on the aqbanking website and didn't find one less than version 3
17:27:32 <andi5> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=115695
17:27:56 <pestilence> ok, thanks
17:28:11 <andi5> i hope that one works for you :)
17:32:13 <pestilence> ugh! that one depends on libchipcard3c :-(
17:32:26 * pestilence gives up
17:32:35 <andi5> do you need chipcard?
17:32:42 <pestilence> i doubt it
17:32:56 <pestilence> can i just disable that backend? what it is used for...
17:33:19 <pestilence> or is it a frontend :)
17:33:35 <andi5> i suppose you can just specify those you want via --with-backends="b1 b2 b3"
17:33:56 <pestilence> which one is it that requires chipcard
17:34:04 <andi5> i guess disabling aqgeldkarte should suffice
17:34:10 <pestilence> ok
17:34:46 <pestilence> ha. didn't matter. still is saying i don't have libofx
17:34:57 <andi5> hmpf...
17:35:08 <andi5> i suppose you have libofx-dev installed as ubuntu package?
17:35:14 <andi5> in /usr etc
17:35:17 <pestilence> yes, version 0.9.0
17:38:06 <andi5> *g* http://lists.gnucash.org/logs/2008/01/2008-01-12.html ... seems like this still has not been fixed
17:38:53 <andi5> somehow this whole "eat or die" mentality sucks... well... it is too late for me to help you, i am sorry
17:39:29 <pestilence> oh well. thanks for your help
17:39:34 <andi5> good luck!
17:39:39 <pestilence> thanks
17:39:52 <andi5> if you come up with something presentable, please make sure it finds its way into the wiki!
17:40:13 <andi5> bye
17:40:16 <pestilence> ok, but that is looking unlikely at this point :)
17:40:24 <andi5> come on, thumbs up =)
17:40:45 <pestilence> heh, the best solution at this point looks like somebody will have to post .debs someplace
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