2008-04-09 GnuCash IRC logs

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14:22:09 <edavison> I need to do an account summary for a specific month and all the options let me specify is the end date.
14:22:16 <edavison> How can I also set the start date?
14:25:08 <warlord> An "account summary" is just "Balance As Of Date". It sounds like you want a Cash Flow?
14:25:17 <warlord> Or P&L
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15:41:04 <edavison> Well, what I need is the summary of money in/out of all accounts from x date to y date.
15:41:19 <edavison> All I can get now is up to y date starting at the earlierst transaction in the file
15:42:14 <edavison> This is on the menu as Reports > Account Summary
15:43:45 <jsled> edavison: So that's not the right report, then. Try the Cash Flow report?
15:48:42 <warlord> jsled: I think edavison is ignoring us.
15:48:57 <warlord> edavison: I understand what you need. The Account Summary isn't what you want.
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16:21:23 <edavison> sorry, not ignoring you; just working while trying to do this on the side.
16:21:41 <edavison> I will try the Cash Flow report and see if that works
16:24:36 <edavison> That looks like what I need although I like for format of the Account Summary better.
16:24:41 <edavison> I can work with this though.
16:24:56 <edavison> thanks - and sorry for
16:25:00 <edavison> "ignoring" you.
16:26:23 <warlord> glad it works for you.
16:43:57 <tim_abell> hiya. Am I right in thinking I have to restart gc to see my updated report when I make changes to my .scm file?
16:48:56 <warlord> tim_abell: yes
16:49:13 <tim_abell> shucks :)
16:49:17 <tim_abell> thank you
16:49:41 <warlord> Well, your other option is to add a menu item to re-load the scm file
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16:51:05 <tim_abell> um, maybe not today :)
16:51:52 <warlord> There's an example in (IIRC) business-gnome.scm
16:53:07 <tim_abell> cool, will take a look
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17:00:59 <tim_abell> The other thing that's taxing me is understanding the errors when I get something wrong in the scm file. Sometimes it gives me a line number which is good, and other times I get something which I don't understand, eg http://pastebin.ca/978822
17:01:22 <tim_abell> Is there any hints you could give me how to track down the source of this kind of problem?
17:01:35 <tim_abell> (I know where the problem is this time)
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17:02:58 <warlord> I tend to ignore line-numbers and instead grab the procedure name and work from there.
17:03:17 <warlord> So, e.g., [balance-linechart-renderer
17:03:44 <warlord> Although you dont have the actual error in that pastebin.
17:09:32 <tim_abell> Oh, I see. I currently have 2 hours experience in guile programming which probably isn't helping me much! I'm running it inside KDevelop, do you think that's a problem?
17:13:16 <warlord> I dont think it's a problem, but you cant use that to debug guile.. guile is a beast unto its own.
17:14:03 <tim_abell> heh, so it would seem. I'm still at the point of being a little scared of it. I hope to grow to love it :)
17:14:43 <warlord> guile/scheme is a really cool language. but yeah if you're debugging guile you dont need any debugger at all. generally it's "debug by printf".
17:14:54 <warlord> there really isn't a guile debugger.
17:15:32 <tim_abell> ok, that's good to know
17:21:54 <tim_abell> thanks for your help, it's tough starting from ground zero
17:29:20 <warlord> True...
17:29:27 <warlord> But you can certainly ask for help.
17:29:32 <warlord> There are a number of people who can help you!
17:30:08 <tim_abell> hopefully I will [eventually] repay your kindness by being able to usefully contribute
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17:31:11 <tim_abell> I'm trying to do a graph of account balances, which I then hope to project for future values based on sx and budgets. This may take some months at this rate.
17:31:27 <tim_abell> I've already been contemplating it for 6 months!
17:35:50 <warlord> Yeah, forecasting SXes is hard if for no other reason than you might need user input to "guess" what variable values might be.
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17:37:17 <tim_abell> I hadn't realised they could be variable :s
17:37:29 <tim_abell> Still, I'm a long way off worrying about that
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17:38:01 <tim_abell> I'll try and get a report working for historical balances and post that for review / inclusion, then take it from there
17:39:09 <warlord> "historical balances"?
17:40:29 <tim_abell> As in a graph of account balance vs time up until now
17:40:51 <tim_abell> as opposed to future (estimated) balances
17:41:24 <warlord> Oh, I see.
17:41:29 <tim_abell> The long term objective is to be able to see if any account is going to go overdrawn based on known income and expenditure
17:42:40 <tim_abell> I've gone back to reading the guile manual for the moment. I still struggle with parts of the syntax.
17:44:02 <warlord> Ok
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18:39:41 <tim_abell> good night, and thanks for all the fish ( warlord )
18:39:49 <warlord> see ya
18:40:05 <tim_abell> the mists are slowly clearing
18:41:30 <warlord> good!
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