2008-04-05 GnuCash IRC logs

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04:29:09 <Perun> hi all
04:30:24 <Perun> I have a problem to setup hbci with gnucash
04:30:49 <Perun> 'chipcard-tool check' shows:
04:30:49 <Perun> Readers:
04:30:49 <Perun> - auto1-tow_usb (tow_usb, port 0, Manufacturer="DETWK";Terminal="CDM43";Version="2.0.7"): up
04:30:57 <Perun> so the reader does work
04:31:09 <Perun> but how can I use it with gnucash?
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07:33:38 <PcPixel> Good morning. I'm having difficulty setting up my 401k in GnuCash & the documentation isn't helping me much.
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14:06:15 <jim> hi
14:06:47 <jsled> hello
14:07:21 <jim> I hit File>New>New accounts page and created a new tab with a copy of my accounts
14:08:08 <jim> What I wanted was a new window. Now I have copied all my accounts to a new tab. How do I delete the tab?
14:09:15 <jsled> Just close it. It's not a copy of your accounts, so much as another tab/view of the same accounts.
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14:12:24 <jim> what an idiot. thx jsled, youve helped me before too.
14:12:50 <jim> in that case whats the best way to create a new account for 2008-09?
14:13:06 <jsled> Heh. You're welcome.
14:13:19 <jsled> Well, you could just create a brand new file. File > New > New File
14:13:21 <jim> with all the sub accounts
14:13:46 <jsled> Or <http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/FAQ#Q:_Is_there_book-closing_support.2C_yet.3F>
14:15:49 <jim> That recommends exporting to a new account, saving as 200809 and keeping all but final balances on each account
14:15:58 <jim> will try that
14:18:25 <jsled> Oh.
14:18:28 <jsled> What version are you using?
14:18:45 <jsled> That FAQ entry should be updated; 2.2.4 has a better "Close Books" feature.
14:20:33 <jim> just crashed. rebooting....
14:23:28 <jim> 7 yr old laptop wants to retire from accounting!!!
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14:32:11 <jsled> heh
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14:43:30 <jim> might have to install gnucash on the Mac. havent updated ubuntu or gnucash in a while so probably not running 2.2.4
14:44:01 <jim> will update and check the close books feature
14:59:04 <jim> version 2.2.1
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15:12:20 <vsync> howdy
15:12:29 <vsync> anyone else noticing problems getting currency prices?
15:13:51 <vsync> gold and palladium get fetched ok
15:13:51 <vsync> but
15:14:00 <vsync> platinum comes in as 1.000 and silver is broken
15:15:24 <vsync> i sniffed with wireshark, if anyone has any ideas
15:15:27 <vsync> anyone?
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17:42:28 <tim_abell> hiya, i'm trying to write a new report, and i'm getting the following output http://pastebin.ca/973029 which unfortunately is meaningless to me. could anyone give me a nudge in the right direction?
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17:51:42 <PcPixel> Hello. I have a question about setting up 401ks/ money markets in GnuCash.
17:52:23 <warlord> just ask your question; don't meta-ask.
17:52:59 <PcPixel> sorry, the4 past few times id come in & asked nobody was around...
17:53:03 <PcPixel> anyways
17:53:22 <PcPixel> I used the GnuCash templates to set up tjhe reitrement account area. I go to my 401k provider and start looking up when I have
17:53:56 <PcPixel> Ive tried entering the units i have at the rate they were issued at, but then the program just converts it nback to a single price. then i end up with a new account "imblance-USD" (i belive thats what it is)
17:54:11 <warlord> Did you set up the proper Securities for the accounts?
17:54:29 <PcPixel> id like to use the ability to track each independatly, but im almost to the point where im jsut going to lump it togeter into a single account
17:54:31 <warlord> The 'imbalance-usd' means you didn't supply a proper transfer account.
17:54:41 <PcPixel> im thats what id thought.
17:54:49 <PcPixel> though the $$ is already there so technically it isnt coming from anywhere
17:54:53 <PcPixel> and no
17:54:57 <PcPixel> i hacve set up no securities or anything
17:55:05 <PcPixel> the documentation wasny clean on money market accounts
17:55:08 <PcPixel> clear rather
17:57:14 <tim_abell> meh, i give up. bed time
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17:57:38 <PcPixel> other than this one snag, im loving the package
17:58:17 <warlord> GnuCash is double-entry. All money needs to "come from" somewhere... Even if it's "Equity:Opening Balances"
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17:59:28 <warlord> PcPixel: Money Market accounts can be treated just like Stock accounts.
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17:59:59 <PcPixel> sorry about that
18:00:03 <PcPixel> my window froze up
18:00:04 <warlord> PcPixel: Money Market accounts can be treated just like Stock accounts.
18:00:22 <PcPixel> ok, so i need to seed my 401k in the "opening balances" and take the money from there
18:01:05 <warlord> Just like any other account, every transation needs to balance credits and debits. This is "Double Entry Accounting 101"
18:01:19 <PcPixel> *nods
18:01:55 <PcPixel> ok so i just need to create the securities first
18:02:11 <PcPixel> baced on what my 401k provider offers
18:02:48 <warlord> Yep
18:02:54 <PcPixel> ok
18:03:04 <PcPixel> then once the securities are enterd, i use them in the accounts that have been created
18:03:05 <warlord> Or at least based on what you own.
18:03:46 <PcPixel> right
18:04:07 <warlord> Yes, you'll need to reset the account security and you'll need to fix the opening balance.
18:05:22 <PcPixel> ok i think im getting it
18:06:56 <PcPixel> ill go over the Stock portion of the manual again before i attempt it
18:07:04 <PcPixel> but the first thing i need is to create the securities no matter what
18:07:17 <PcPixel> ok, thanks for the help! ill give it a shot & come back if i have more questions
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18:08:32 <warlord> @tell PcPixel I probably wont be around to help you until late Sunday.
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23:52:48 <renato> hello people...
23:52:48 <gncbot> renato: Sent 6 days, 0 hours, and 47 minutes ago: <warlord> 2.2.4 has already been released. do you mean a schedule for 2.2.5? No.
23:52:49 <gncbot> renato: Sent 6 days, 0 hours, and 46 minutes ago: <warlord> the Cancel text is part of the standard (default) gnome translation.
23:52:50 <gncbot> renato: Sent 6 days, 0 hours, and 46 minutes ago: <warlord> Send the diff (or, more likely, the whole po file) to -devel. That's good enough
23:52:51 <gncbot> renato: Sent 6 days, 0 hours, and 45 minutes ago: <warlord> also, generally you need to wait more than 30 minutes on a Sunday Night. Patience is a virtue.
23:54:11 <renato> He... Just got a message on the history from warlord telling me that, generally, I should wait more than 30 minutes to get an answer on #gnucash on sunday morning..
23:54:12 <renato> :-)
23:54:49 <renato> anyway... if he shows up I'll thank him for the info I just got... :-D
23:58:43 <renato> He told me that the cancel text on the buttons is part of the standard (default) gnome translation..
23:59:20 <andi5> we all read that
23:59:32 <renato> since that annoys me I feel compelled to translate that.. anyone has a clue on what project should I get my hands on ? libgtk, or something like that ?