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10:55:52 <eternal_fizzer> I just switched to linux, and want to migrate my gnucash files there, but nothing will open in linux gnucash - can I open a windows-gnucash file in the linux version?
10:56:09 <andi5> sure
10:56:31 <warlord> of course.
10:56:32 <andi5> just use file > open and select your file from the mounted windows partition or a copy thereof
10:56:44 <warlord> Just make sure you use a similar release (2.2)
10:56:46 <eternal_fizzer> is it the .xac file or the archive?
10:56:56 <warlord> No, it's the original file.
10:56:57 <andi5> yep
10:57:00 <warlord> Whatever you called it.
10:57:09 <eternal_fizzer> what is the extension for the original file?
10:57:15 <warlord> gnucash doesn't force any extension.
10:57:18 <andi5> oh, oops :)
10:57:32 <warlord> andi5: oops?
10:57:33 <eternal_fizzer> ok, but there are a few files called gnucash spreadsheets and nothing will open
10:57:37 <andi5> just ignore me =)
10:57:59 <warlord> what do you mean "nothing will open"?
10:58:06 <warlord> How are you opening it?
10:58:14 <eternal_fizzer> i mean, i used file - open
10:58:21 <eternal_fizzer> and select the file I think it should be
10:58:33 <eternal_fizzer> and i get a parse error or something
10:58:42 <warlord> well, <foo>.YYYYMMDDHHMMSS.xac is a backup file.
10:58:52 <warlord> What version of gnucash are you using on linux?
10:58:55 <eternal_fizzer> thanks for that
10:59:04 <warlord> and the data file is called <foo>
10:59:09 <eternal_fizzer> I don't know - i just installed it in ubuntu yesterday using the package manager
10:59:19 <warlord> well, figure it out. "gnucash --version"
10:59:24 <warlord> (or Help -> About )
10:59:45 <eternal_fizzer> I'll have to switch partitions and load an irc chat client in linux - "be right back"
10:59:52 <eternal_fizzer> (and thanks)
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11:00:03 <warlord> eternal_fizzer: "xchat"
11:00:04 <warlord> oops.
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11:22:02 <eternal_fizzer> hello again - I am having trouble opening winxp gnucash files in ubuntu. There are 3 kinds of files: .xac, .log and archives. I have gnucash 2.0.2 (my winxp was v2.2.4) - is that the problem?
11:22:28 <jsled> were you using scheduled transactions on the Windows side/dtafile?
11:22:28 <warlord> yes
11:22:36 <eternal_fizzer> yes
11:22:40 <warlord> 2.0.2 cannot open a 2.2 file
11:22:44 <eternal_fizzer> argh
11:22:45 <andi5> oh, hi jsled :)
11:22:53 <warlord> you should update gnucash to 2.2 on ubuntu.
11:23:00 <jsled> andi5: hello.
11:23:03 <warlord> (or at least to 2.0.5)
11:23:07 <eternal_fizzer> ok ... new question ... how do I update?
11:23:12 <warlord> but if you use SX then you need 2.2
11:23:37 <warlord> add the correct repository?
11:24:03 <andi5> jsled: in qoflog.h you wrote that it is a good practice to define a static QofLogModule log_module in a source file... does that still hold and what code makes use of it at all? thanks!
11:24:19 <eternal_fizzer> sorry, very new at this - I opened package manager, it shows as installed, but where is the update?
11:25:00 <andi5> eternal_fizzer: you should enable the backports repository in system > administration > software sources (or something like that)
11:25:36 <eternal_fizzer> ok - absolutely no idea, but found Mark all upgrades button and its downloading something ...
11:25:42 <andi5> but hey, that is just a wild guess, i do not even know your distribution version
11:25:53 <andi5> lol
11:26:32 <eternal_fizzer> i barely know what a distribution version is :-)
11:26:38 <eternal_fizzer> blind leading the blind
11:26:53 <andi5> what is written onto your cdrom / dvd?
11:27:12 <jsled> andi5: IIRC it's still true if you're using the ENTER, LEAVE, TRACE, DEBUG, …, &c. macros.
11:27:19 <eternal_fizzer> its updating python - does that have anything to do with gnucash, or have i just asked it to update my entire system
11:27:23 <eternal_fizzer> no cdrom
11:27:29 <jsled> The g_info, &c., use G_LOG_DOMAIN, instead.
11:27:34 <jsled> (or whatever it is)
11:28:20 <andi5> oh, you are right... but why cannot we simply change log_module to G_LOG_DOMAIN in those macros? :)
11:28:55 <jsled> I guess it's the case that most of the source tree/files defines G_LOG_DOMAIN, but maybe not.
11:28:59 <jsled> But, good point. :)
11:29:02 <andi5> btw, i do not know whether there is a function for the info level, but there are g_debug and g_message :)
11:29:50 <eternal_fizzer> aha - found repository under settings - have Ubuntu 7.04 - what is a backport please?
11:30:01 <andi5> [i am right now combining gwen3 logging and qof logging, that is why i am looking at it right now]
11:30:09 <andi5> riiiight now :)
11:31:18 <andi5> eternal_fizzer: when did you install that ubuntu? it is almost one year old, which is not bad per se, but it sounds as if you are starting with linux and then you could profit from a newer version =)
11:31:44 <eternal_fizzer> a friend installed it just a month ago, its because i have an ancient laptop that apparently wouldn't work with latest
11:31:47 <andi5> btw, hardy beta has been released today
11:32:01 <andi5> huh? that is weird, but hey
11:32:19 <eternal_fizzer> well, its an instore Xplio from Staples, the home-built of computers
11:32:27 <eternal_fizzer> and its a laptop
11:32:46 <andi5> backports is a repository that contains packages that are newer than those included when the distribution came out (7.04 == april 2007), backported because of public demand
11:33:16 <eternal_fizzer> so is that already on my computer or online somewhere else?
11:33:30 <eternal_fizzer> and will 7.04 run gnucash 2.2.4?
11:33:46 <andi5> have you been to system > administration > software sources?
11:34:26 <eternal_fizzer> that's the window that opened from package manager from Settings - Repositories
11:34:28 <eternal_fizzer> so yes
11:35:05 <andi5> on my third tab (updates), there is a checkbox for backports (unsupported updates)
11:35:10 <eternal_fizzer> there si an updates tab, but already set to add important security updates
11:35:31 <eternal_fizzer> nothing called backports here
11:35:36 <eternal_fizzer> oh sorry yes
11:35:42 <eternal_fizzer> and unchecked, so I will check that
11:36:41 <andi5> feisty-backports contains version 2.2.1-1ubuntu4~feisty1
11:37:21 <eternal_fizzer> looking ...
11:38:08 <eternal_fizzer> not in my case - searched package list
11:38:24 <eternal_fizzer> or is that where i was supposed to look?
11:38:51 <andi5> did you update your sources after your change?
11:39:01 <andi5> i mean, did it download updated package lists?
11:39:10 <eternal_fizzer> egad - just opened update manager - and there it is
11:39:42 <eternal_fizzer> with 31 other files - does one ordinarily blindly update everything in linux?
11:39:49 <eternal_fizzer> or should I just update gnucash
11:40:15 <andi5> update gnucash and deactivate backports afterwards
11:40:36 <eternal_fizzer> many thanks for all that - huge learning curve
11:40:48 <andi5> it is not hard, really :)
11:40:58 <eternal_fizzer> just very different from ms
11:41:04 <eternal_fizzer> which is generally a good thing ...
11:41:22 <andi5> well.... maybe you will prefer it one day, just as i would say most of us here do :)
11:41:57 <eternal_fizzer> believe me i already do in principle - hence accepting that my computer iq has dropped an oom until i get the knack :-)
11:50:30 <warlord> too bad 2.2.1 is pretty buggy
11:50:49 <warlord> it would be nice if they could get out 2.2.4 + the qif-to-gnc fix
11:51:28 <andi5> but 2.0.2 was even buggier :-)
11:55:00 <warlord> TRUE.
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11:57:05 <eternal_fizzer> well, it loaded, it runs and it opens my old file. smo. that's all i asked for - thanks a lot!
11:57:37 <warlord> you're welcome
11:58:32 <eternal_fizzer> and thanks to andi5, who provided idiot-proof instructions :-)
11:59:09 <andi5> you are welcome :)
11:59:17 <eternal_fizzer> 'night all!
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15:03:24 <foo> Last year I had an excel file with all my financial stuff and I just gave that to my accountant to do my taxes... this year, what are the key reports my accountant would need to report my stuff accurately?
15:04:39 <warlord> Profit & Loss, Balance Sheet, and, if you want, a Transaction Report.
15:08:00 <andrewsw-afk> window hide 2
15:08:21 <andrewsw-afk> heh...
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15:42:38 <foo> warlord: thank you
15:42:45 <warlord> foo: you're welcome
15:43:36 <foo> I'm taking an accounting class now and I'm slowly learning about most of the questions I've probably asked here in the past that were basic accounting questions :)
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15:59:44 <warlord> Good.
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15:59:55 <warlord> So you can stick around and answer those questions from the next round of newbies ;)
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16:57:40 <foo> warlord: Hehe :) I'll see what I can do
16:57:47 <warlord> ok
16:57:49 <foo> Hm, how can I delete an invoice that isn't posted?
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16:58:15 <warlord> foo: http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/FAQ#Q:_How_can_I_delete_an_Invoice.2C_Customer.2C_Vendor.2C_or_Employee.3F
16:59:52 <foo> warlord: ah, ok, I'll just reuse this :) Thanks
17:26:40 <warlord> ok
17:35:22 <foo> hm, looks like I can have two invoices with the same ID
17:35:26 * foo doesn't think that's good
17:35:34 * foo undos what he did so he doesn't throw off the numbering
17:41:38 <warlord> The ID means nothing. It's just a visibe string.
17:41:44 <warlord> Just like you could have two checks withthe same number.
17:42:05 <foo> ah, I see
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17:57:14 <foo> hm, I did a small job ($50) for someone beginning of 2007 and I have no record of it, but there was a $50 deposit. I'm a tad frustrated with myself but I can't find it for the life of me. How would you recommend I report such a small job?
17:58:17 <warlord> at this point??
17:58:35 <foo> s/report/record/
17:58:51 <foo> Yeah, I'm just about done with making sure all my bank statements are in accordance with gnucash for last year
17:58:58 <warlord> i'd ignore it now; it was a year ago.
17:59:05 <warlord> oh....
17:59:11 <warlord> umm...
17:59:40 <warlord> you could just do Income -> Checking and ignore the business features
18:01:27 <foo> Ok, so just go to sales, make a $50 transaction to accounts received, then transfer it from accounts receivable to my checking account, right?
18:03:24 <warlord> I'd ignore A/R completely
18:03:42 <warlord> unless you really need it.
18:04:06 <foo> ohh, right, guess I don't. Good call, thanks again warlord :)
18:04:35 <warlord> :)
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