2008-03-18 GnuCash IRC logs

00:05:59 *** wizkid238 has joined #gnucash
00:09:34 *** dbreiser has joined #gnucash
00:10:59 *** wizkid240 has joined #gnucash
00:11:39 *** wizkid239 has quit IRC
00:14:10 <dbreiser> if slib and guile are going to misbehave, does it happen on launching gnucash, or does it lurk in the shadows until I issue an offending command?
00:14:49 <mishehu> I *think* you usually know by gnucash not loading
00:14:57 <mishehu> but I'm no expert.
00:15:03 <dbreiser> I think I have slib 3b1 (+ one post-release upstream patch) and guile 1.8.3 working with gnucash 2.2.4 under fink
00:15:40 <dbreiser> I though it was time to look into leaving slib 2d6
00:16:05 <dbreiser> *thought
00:17:05 <dbreiser> mishehu: thanks
00:17:08 *** wizkid238 has quit IRC
00:29:12 *** basanta has joined #gnucash
00:35:08 *** basanta has quit IRC
00:45:46 *** wizkid240 is now known as wizkid238
01:18:58 *** cparker has joined #gnucash
02:16:52 *** dbreiser has quit IRC
02:42:22 *** wizkid239 has joined #gnucash
02:47:22 *** wizkid240 has joined #gnucash
02:49:36 *** wizkid238 has quit IRC
02:53:32 *** wizkid239 has quit IRC
04:05:16 *** wizkid238 has joined #gnucash
04:11:38 *** wizkid240 has quit IRC
04:13:50 *** wizkid239 has joined #gnucash
04:22:36 *** wizkid238 has quit IRC
04:28:10 *** ErKa has joined #gnucash
04:28:29 *** BrianHV has quit IRC
04:28:33 *** BrianHV has joined #gnucash
05:42:45 *** basanta has joined #gnucash
06:16:30 *** cortilap has joined #gnucash
06:31:52 *** _McLANE_ has joined #gnucash
06:38:01 *** basanta has quit IRC
06:59:58 *** _McLANE_ has quit IRC
07:45:36 *** kielein has joined #gnucash
08:15:22 *** wizkid238 has joined #gnucash
08:24:02 *** wizkid239 has quit IRC
08:39:09 *** twunder has joined #gnucash
08:48:12 *** twunder has quit IRC
08:54:25 *** aasmodeus has left #gnucash
09:15:48 *** wizkid239 has joined #gnucash
09:23:25 *** wizkid238 has quit IRC
09:24:59 *** ErKa has quit IRC
09:28:46 *** wizkid238 has joined #gnucash
09:36:11 *** wizkid239 has quit IRC
09:55:57 *** dbreiser has joined #gnucash
09:58:55 *** wizkid238 has quit IRC
10:00:45 *** wizkid238 has joined #gnucash
10:05:49 *** ErKa has joined #gnucash
10:07:17 *** donfede has joined #gnucash
10:07:20 *** wizkid239 has joined #gnucash
10:11:03 *** IanL has joined #gnucash
10:14:55 *** wizkid238 has quit IRC
10:19:32 *** wizkid238 has joined #gnucash
10:24:34 *** wizkid240 has joined #gnucash
10:27:40 *** wizkid239 has quit IRC
10:29:34 *** wizkid238 has quit IRC
11:09:36 *** IanL has left #gnucash
11:31:46 *** wizkid238 has joined #gnucash
11:33:33 *** cortilap has quit IRC
11:38:51 *** wizkid240 has quit IRC
12:03:30 *** vinci has joined #gnucash
12:05:35 *** ErKa has quit IRC
12:09:12 *** dbreiser has quit IRC
12:09:18 *** wizkid239 has joined #gnucash
12:16:31 *** wizkid238 has quit IRC
12:33:10 *** twunder has joined #gnucash
12:52:44 *** twunder has quit IRC
13:07:10 *** olsen has joined #gnucash
13:46:30 *** ErKa has joined #gnucash
13:49:06 *** andrewsw is now known as andrewsw-afk
13:49:09 *** andrewsw-afk is now known as andrewsw
13:49:15 <andrewsw> heh. guess I've been here all along.
13:49:27 *** warlord-afk is now known as warlord
13:49:53 <andrewsw> mornin' warlord, how's tricks?
13:51:25 <warlord> good afternoon.
13:51:27 <warlord> not too bad.
13:53:50 <andrewsw> finals week for me... and then spring break. I can't believe how fast it goes.
13:56:02 <warlord> Heh
13:57:13 <andrewsw> I'm gloating -- I could skip both my finals and still pass both classes with C's or better...
13:57:36 <warlord> Hahah..
14:06:09 *** kling0n has joined #gnucash
14:50:11 *** olsen has quit IRC
14:54:33 *** olsen has joined #gnucash
15:08:00 *** vinci has quit IRC
15:13:19 *** kling0n has quit IRC
15:55:35 *** ErKa has quit IRC
16:44:06 *** twunder has joined #gnucash
16:51:51 *** twunder has quit IRC
16:52:07 *** wizkid238 has joined #gnucash
17:00:40 *** wizkid240 has joined #gnucash
17:01:07 *** wizkid239 has quit IRC
17:07:19 *** wizkid238 has quit IRC
17:22:57 *** _gunni_ has joined #gnucash
17:48:17 *** wizkid238 has joined #gnucash
17:51:28 *** wizkid240 has quit IRC
17:57:56 *** _McLANE_ has joined #gnucash
18:00:42 *** andrewsw is now known as andrewsw-afk
18:08:41 *** kielein has quit IRC
18:27:09 *** ErKa has joined #gnucash
18:29:20 *** _gunni_ has quit IRC
18:50:17 *** warlord is now known as warlord-afk
19:09:15 *** donfede has quit IRC
19:17:54 *** motin_0 has joined #gnucash
19:26:24 *** cortana has joined #gnucash
19:40:01 *** cortana has quit IRC
19:42:54 *** _McLANE_ has quit IRC
19:43:50 *** ErKa has quit IRC
19:44:56 *** cortana has joined #gnucash
19:56:53 *** motin_0 has quit IRC
20:57:29 *** wizkid239 has joined #gnucash
21:02:25 *** wizkid238 has quit IRC
21:38:24 *** wizkid238 has joined #gnucash
21:43:13 *** dbreiser has joined #gnucash
21:43:26 *** wizkid240 has joined #gnucash
21:47:17 *** wizkid239 has quit IRC
21:48:34 *** wizkid238 has quit IRC
21:48:54 *** twunder has joined #gnucash
22:20:01 *** cortana has quit IRC
22:50:59 *** wizkid238 has joined #gnucash
22:57:41 *** ebzzry has joined #gnucash
22:59:40 *** twunder has quit IRC
23:00:00 *** wizkid240 has quit IRC
23:00:24 <ebzzry> We have >10 years worth of Quickbooks accounting data, and the version we use now is Quickbooks 2003. Unfortunately Quickbooks 2003 can only export in IIF format. Is there a way to import the information contained in our files to Gnucash without loss of data? Yes, I've searched the MLs first regarding that matter.
23:02:00 <dbreiser> I don't think so
23:02:17 <dbreiser> Intuit works hard at fencing people in
23:03:58 <ebzzry> dbreiser: Ok. Do you think it would be a good idea to use an intermediate application, say Quickbooks 2008 to import the exported IIF files (from Quickbooks 2003) then from Quickbooks 2008, export it in a format that Gnucash can readily read?
23:04:28 <dbreiser> I'd be worried that quickbooks 2008 still has no real exporting capabilities
23:05:30 <ebzzry> dbreiser: Ok. So what do you think is an ideal way to import the data from Quickbooks 2003 to Gnucash?
23:06:59 <dbreiser> I'd look for an external converter that was written by folks leaving Quickbooks to generate some intermediate file (cvs, qif, or qfx/ofx)
23:07:44 <ebzzry> dbreiser: Do you have any in mind?
23:07:46 <dbreiser> I'd still be worried about holes in gnucash's imports thereof, because there haven't been many (any?) reported cases where people have brought in large chunks of quickbooks data
23:07:55 <dbreiser> looking at google at the moment
23:08:43 <ebzzry> dbreiser: Ok. That would be IIF to something to Gnucash
23:08:57 <dbreiser> hmm looks like most of them are qif -> IIF, not the other way around
23:09:03 <dbreiser> yes, I think so
23:09:35 <dbreiser> there must be a bunch of fields/constructs in IIF that aren't in qif. Not a good sign, if true
23:11:18 <ebzzry> dbreiser: QIF -> IIF? Why would people do that? O.o
23:12:00 <dbreiser> small companies finally growing big enough to need more power and not willing to break the Intuit stranglehold on their data ?
23:13:02 <ebzzry> Do you think Quickbooks 2008 is able to read files exported by Quicbooks 2003?
23:13:29 <ebzzry> dbreiser: Are there any formats that Quickbooks 2008 exports that Gnucash can handle?
23:14:14 <dbreiser> I have no idea. I've only ever looked at one trial Quickbooks program (and that was a Mac version, so it didn't resemble the windows version much)
23:15:09 <dbreiser> here's one that's only $49 http://www.bigredconsulting.com/aboutdatalink.htm
23:15:37 <dbreiser> can't tell if it will 'outload' everything, though
23:16:22 <dbreiser> the trial version might even get the whole job done :)
23:16:40 <ebzzry> dbreiser: Thanks for the link. Anyway, if Gnucash is not able to readily read IIF files, then I must find another way to convert these IIF files, say via Quickbooks 2008, then do some exporting again.
23:17:31 <dbreiser> Whatever path gets you something that gnucash imports.
23:18:24 <ebzzry> dbreiser: Ok. Thank you for responding.
23:18:37 <dbreiser> you're welcome
23:19:53 *** ebzzry has left #gnucash
23:31:56 *** iheaing has joined #gnucash
23:40:35 *** iheaing has joined #gnucash
23:55:53 *** olsen has quit IRC
23:56:37 *** iheaing has joined #gnucash