2008-02-09 GnuCash IRC logs
00:23:38 *** x25 has joined #gnucash
00:23:57 *** x25 is now known as jasperbg
00:24:12 <jasperbg> quick question
00:24:23 <jasperbg> i run a business that imports speakers and sells them in the local market
00:24:47 <jasperbg> currently i list the purchase of speakers as an expense, and then the sale of speakers as income
00:24:57 <jasperbg> but this hides the fact that the speakers are an asset while they sit in the warehouse
00:25:12 <jasperbg> i'm just trying to get my head around how i could represent this.
00:25:16 <jasperbg> has anyone done something similar?
00:28:39 <jasperbg> would something like: transfer from bank account -> asset account for stock (when purchasing speakers), and then split transaction from asset account and income account -> bank account (when selling them)
00:28:44 <jasperbg> seem sensible?
00:29:56 <jasperbg> the problem i have with that, is that the income account then represents the *profit* on sales, rather than the value of sales
00:30:55 <mishehu> you might need to discuss this with a real accountant... heh.
00:31:03 <mishehu> my head is already spinning
00:32:37 <jasperbg> yeah
00:32:39 <jasperbg> it makes my head spin
00:33:08 <jasperbg> there's not much wrong with the current income/expense structure i'm using, except that in the interim few days between buying and selling speakers, it looks like business ain't going so well :P
00:33:24 <mishehu> I personally don't deal with that, when I buy something for resale, I usually just stick it in expenses and ignore the fact that it's an intangible asset while in my possession
00:33:30 <mishehu> I don't know how correct my practice is though.
00:33:38 <jasperbg> yeah, i don't think there's anything incorrect about that
00:33:57 <jasperbg> it just doesn't show the asset, which annoys me
00:34:05 <mishehu> the problem is balancing your transactions
00:34:07 <jasperbg> because a glance at the accounts makes it look like you just squandered a whole load of cash
00:34:23 <mishehu> you want the purchase to come up as an expense, you want the sale to be income, and you want to have the asset until the sale.
00:34:45 <jasperbg> exactly.
00:35:03 <mishehu> the asset part is what I'm having trouble reconciling without skewing the books in some way or another.
00:35:37 <jasperbg> exactly
00:36:29 <mishehu> I normally keep track of my inventory outside of gnucash...
00:36:45 <jasperbg> it's sort of the capital gains stuff at http://svn.gnucash.org/docs/guide/capgain_concepts1.html
00:36:47 <mishehu> maybe one of the other guys here has an idea how to do what you're trying, but they don't seem to be around at the moment.
00:37:10 <jasperbg> except that i would prefer my "income" account to show the total value of sales, rather than merely the capital gains (or rather, the profit on the sales)
00:37:18 <jasperbg> yeah
00:37:24 <jasperbg> i have to go, i might try asking in here again another time
00:37:28 <jasperbg> or talking to my accountant =)
00:37:32 <jasperbg> thanks
00:37:32 <jasperbg> see ya
00:37:36 <mishehu> no prob.
00:37:40 *** jasperbg has quit IRC
02:14:16 *** kielein has joined #gnucash
02:59:15 *** |gunni| has joined #gnucash
02:59:31 *** _gunni_ has quit IRC
03:36:38 *** Zoolooc has joined #gnucash
04:12:23 *** cortana has quit IRC
04:21:13 *** cortana has joined #gnucash
05:44:13 *** Zoolooc has quit IRC
05:44:30 *** Zoolooc has joined #gnucash
06:35:23 *** Zoolooc has quit IRC
07:53:03 *** twunder has joined #gnucash
08:02:25 *** Demitar has quit IRC
08:03:34 *** andrewsw-afk has quit IRC
08:04:08 *** andrewsw-afk has joined #gnucash
08:14:25 *** twunder has quit IRC
08:23:29 *** warlord-afk has quit IRC
08:58:31 *** mishehu has quit IRC
09:03:58 *** RassBariaw has joined #gnucash
09:12:03 *** RassBariaw has quit IRC
09:14:56 *** |McLANE| has joined #gnucash
09:18:29 *** warlord has joined #gnucash
09:22:17 *** cortana has quit IRC
09:30:18 *** cortana has joined #gnucash
10:34:09 *** cortana has quit IRC
10:42:11 *** cortana has joined #gnucash
11:22:35 *** SamRose has joined #gnucash
11:48:14 *** Karti has joined #gnucash
11:53:35 *** SamRose has quit IRC
12:06:30 *** warlord is now known as warlord-afk
12:08:23 *** ErKa has joined #gnucash
12:15:45 *** SamRose has joined #gnucash
12:21:38 *** tjanssen has joined #gnucash
12:35:41 *** Zoolooc_ has joined #gnucash
12:48:36 *** SamRose has quit IRC
13:06:34 *** warlord-afk is now known as warlord
13:20:00 *** tjanssen has quit IRC
13:46:05 *** Zoolooc_ has quit IRC
13:58:29 *** twunder has joined #gnucash
14:12:39 *** johng has joined #gnucash
14:18:16 *** twunder has quit IRC
14:23:23 *** sjc has joined #gnucash
14:26:10 *** wizkid239 has joined #gnucash
14:34:11 *** wizkid238 has quit IRC
14:58:07 *** Demitar has joined #gnucash
15:13:07 *** johng has quit IRC
15:26:45 *** kielein has quit IRC
15:37:02 *** _gunni_ has joined #gnucash
15:45:55 *** |gunni| has quit IRC
16:32:45 *** ErKa has quit IRC
17:01:26 *** Kenny_X has joined #gnucash
17:02:17 <Kenny_X> hello
17:03:35 <Kenny_X> I just downloaded gnucash for windows and I'm trying to figure out how to enable spanish, but I can't find anything in the wiki...
17:04:10 <Kenny_X> does anyone know where I can find some info on this?
17:04:19 <jsled> http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/FAQ#Q:_I_want_to_use_GnuCash_in_my_own_language_.28Debian_users_may_need_it.29
17:04:27 <jsled> Though the file to modify here is gnucash.bat.
17:05:00 <Kenny_X> oh, ok let me check
17:05:02 <Kenny_X> thank you
17:07:21 <Kenny_X> oh wow that worked thank you so much!
17:07:24 <jsled> :)
17:07:36 <jsled> you're welcome.
17:33:28 *** warlord is now known as warlord-afk
18:08:19 *** BenB has joined #gnucash
18:09:00 <BenB> hi. how can this happen? (This is a "Bank" account) http://www.bucksch.org/xfer/gnucash-math.png
18:10:30 <BenB> 18105,11 - 10744,00 = -13844,89 ?
18:10:58 <BenB> gnucash 2.2
18:27:57 <cortana> nice :)
18:37:54 <BenB> 21242 substracted too much
18:47:29 <BenB> http://www.bucksch.org/xfer/gnucash-math2.png
18:47:51 <BenB> ???
18:48:02 <cortana> maybe worth filing a bug about?
18:48:22 <cortana> the developers tend to be around in the day time (eu)
18:48:36 <BenB> heh, I am in europe :)
18:48:47 <BenB> 0:45 here
18:49:16 <BenB> cortana: there's nothing I'm missing? hidden transactions or something?
18:49:33 <cortana> i can't really say, i'm just a user :)
18:49:45 <cortana> but i'd like to find out what the answer is too :)
18:55:28 <BenB> cortana: ah, this is since I played back a few .log files.
18:55:36 <BenB> (import | Log-File)
18:56:13 <BenB> luckily, I saved the file before I did that. not that I could recover with it, did too many changes since then, but at least I know what caused it
18:58:26 *** tpfennig_ has joined #gnucash
18:58:52 *** cortana has quit IRC
19:03:09 <BenB> Filed bug 515502 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=515502
19:03:51 *** cortana has joined #gnucash
19:06:21 *** twunder has joined #gnucash
19:33:56 *** |McLANE| has quit IRC
19:57:48 *** twunder has quit IRC
20:02:50 *** tjanssen has joined #gnucash
20:13:46 *** tpfennig_ has quit IRC
21:01:36 *** aindilis has quit IRC
21:01:36 *** Kenny_X has quit IRC
21:01:36 *** wizkid239 has quit IRC
21:01:36 *** Slart has quit IRC
21:01:36 *** jcreigh has quit IRC
21:03:09 *** sjc has quit IRC
21:08:30 *** gncbot has joined #gnucash
21:08:31 *** conrad has joined #gnucash
21:08:31 *** def_ has joined #gnucash
21:08:31 *** jcreigh has joined #gnucash
21:08:31 *** Slart has joined #gnucash
21:08:31 *** aindilis has joined #gnucash
21:08:31 *** wizkid239 has joined #gnucash
21:08:31 *** Kenny_X has joined #gnucash
21:08:31 *** BenB has joined #gnucash
21:08:31 *** _gunni_ has joined #gnucash
21:08:31 *** Demitar has joined #gnucash
21:08:31 *** andrewsw-afk has joined #gnucash
21:08:31 *** nbinont has joined #gnucash
21:08:31 *** foo has joined #gnucash
21:08:31 *** paulproteus_ has joined #gnucash
21:08:31 *** RobbieAB has joined #gnucash
21:08:31 *** ircd.gimp.org sets mode: +o conrad
21:09:35 *** cortana has joined #gnucash
21:27:04 *** andi5 has joined #gnucash
21:34:50 <andi5> hi... i am making up a patch for bug 115066 (wanted: search all items) ... to make it postable i would like to gather some quick feedback on the wanted behavior in business find dialogs... what i did: * let user remove last criterion, grey out match-type combo, add "Matches all label" at the position of the criteria list; * revert that once a criterion is added again.... when searching invoices the criteria list is reduced by search_clear_criteria
21:34:57 *** Kenny_X has quit IRC
21:35:38 <andi5> [hm, this was not logged, so i do not know whether anything got cut off]
21:36:57 <andi5> now even the last element can be removed, so i wonder what the user wants to see
21:58:11 *** twunder has joined #gnucash
22:18:23 *** tjanssen has quit IRC
22:33:04 *** andi5 has quit IRC
22:59:36 *** twunder has quit IRC
23:32:39 *** BenB has quit IRC
23:59:21 *** warlord-afk is now known as warlord
23:59:29 <warlord> conrad, jsled: could you op gncbot ?