2007-12-15 GnuCash IRC logs
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00:44:10 <jcreigh> so can anyone explain to me why I have to rename a report before I can save it as a custom report?
00:44:31 <warlord> Because reports are identified by name, and must be unique.
00:45:20 <jcreigh> hmm. It's just a little weird because I couldn't find that little fact in the documentation anywhere, and I couldn't figure out why the "Add Report" button was disabled until I found a thread in the ML archives talking about it.
00:48:30 <warlord> Add it to the FAQ
01:02:14 * jcreigh adds it the the FAQ.
01:02:24 <jcreigh> silly I didn't think of doing that myself, considering that's the first place I looked.
01:03:09 <warlord> heh
01:03:13 <warlord> thanks
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02:55:19 <Lucifer> so I'm wanting to modify the budget report to tally up subaccounts in the parents. Is there a document somewhere to tell me how to modify reports?
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04:33:53 <johnf> is there an easy way to work out which invoice a payment was made against?
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07:39:22 <andi5> hi warlord ... you are up early!
07:39:46 <warlord> @tell Lucifer There's no document that tells you HOW to modify reports, per se. The reports are scheme programs. http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Custom_Reports
07:39:46 <gncbot> warlord: The operation succeeded.
07:39:56 <warlord> andi5: Hi. Yeah, got a flight. Gotta go soon
07:40:33 <andi5> i see
07:41:16 <warlord> @tell johnf Yes, take a look at the payment transaction split into A/R and then look at the Lot and see what transaction belongs in that Lot.
07:41:16 <gncbot> warlord: The operation succeeded.
07:44:28 <warlord> yeah, headig back east today.
07:50:57 <warlord> how are you doing, andi5 ?
07:51:48 <andi5> i am fine.... i am wondering whether i should make a major dependency update for the windows gnucash binary or not.... hmmmm
07:52:01 <warlord> I leave that up to you ;)
07:52:12 <warlord> I trust you to do the right thing and make our users happy.
07:52:22 <andi5> it seems that putting the orbit2 dlls into the \bin folder of 2.2.1 works for me as well
07:52:25 <andi5> lol...
07:52:32 <andi5> yeah, me as a hard-core windows user :)
07:52:38 <warlord> hahaha
07:52:43 <warlord> yep! You and cstim, apparently.
07:52:56 <andi5> i just re-discovered the start-button at the bottom-left :)
07:53:05 <warlord> LOL!
07:53:11 <warlord> As opposed to top-left?
07:53:14 <andi5> yeah
07:53:21 <andi5> and they did not call it applications!!!
07:53:22 <andi5> imagine that
07:53:25 <warlord> You know you can MOVE the start button to the top-left?
07:53:45 <andi5> that is not right... when i click it, a menu pops up
07:53:46 <warlord> (indeed, you can move the taskbar to any side of the screen)
07:54:36 <andi5> well, but that is nice... when i click the key with the same logo as the one at the left of the start label, then that menu pops up as well
07:55:02 <andi5> seems like someone must have used that system and made a cooperation with keyboard builders
07:55:12 <warlord> hehe
07:55:20 <andi5> that is pretty cool =)
07:56:13 <andi5> no risk no fun...
07:56:34 <warlord> LOL
07:57:15 <warlord> okay, i think i'm going to head to the airport. I still have plenty of time, but I have no idea how the restructured security lines are going to be.
07:57:34 <andi5> ok, have fun!
07:57:50 <warlord> yep.
07:57:53 <warlord> have a great day.
07:57:56 <andi5> bye
07:57:58 <warlord> I'll talk to you (probably) tomororw.
07:58:02 <andi5> uhoh
07:58:15 <warlord> I wont be back online until late tonight.
07:58:21 <andi5> 'k
07:58:23 <warlord> bye
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12:10:25 <magenpie> quick question: how can i see how much i've spent in one account for the year?
12:10:57 <magenpie> one account being X-mas...lol
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12:48:44 <andi5> nbinont: ping
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13:19:05 <andi5> nbinont: ping retry
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13:38:27 <jcreigh> magenpie: well, one way to do it would be to run a report and then tweak the date range...there's probably more than one report that would get you the number you're looking for. But if you do, eg, "Reports > Income & Expense > Income Statement", it will list out all your income and expense accounts, then if you change the date range on the report (under "options" on the toolbar) you should be able to see how much you spent in a year.
13:38:55 <jcreigh> magenpie: there's probably a better way to do it that I don't know about.
13:43:38 <nbinont> andi5: pong
13:44:18 <nbinont> sorry...just dealing with a drive failure
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13:58:39 <nbinont> s/drive/power supply :S
14:09:19 <nbinont> got to go offline for a bit
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14:09:32 <andi5> arg :(
14:09:52 <andi5> well, i attach the dlls to the bug report, iff you want to test
14:09:55 <andi5> +ed
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14:13:51 <nbinont-afk> ok...will do
14:14:15 <andi5> nice
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14:42:30 <jsled> gncbot: tell andi5 that 16597 looks great.
14:42:30 <gncbot> jsled: The operation succeeded.
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14:45:36 <jsled> gncbot: tell andi5 that 16610 looks fine, too.
14:45:36 <gncbot> jsled: The operation succeeded.
14:46:07 <warlord> .
14:46:12 <warlord> * waves from ATL *
14:47:52 <jsled> howdy. how's ATL?
14:48:01 <warlord> rainy...
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15:26:15 <warlord> andrewsw-afk: FYI, be careful with your commit messages. The first line is used as the subject of the email.
15:35:21 <andrewsw-afk> warlord: yeah, sorry.
15:35:54 <andrewsw-afk> aha! That's how I get AUDIT on them.
15:35:57 <warlord> andrewsw-afk: n00b mistake
15:36:12 <warlord> Yeah, audit is "BP" on a line by itself
15:36:37 <andrewsw-afk> oh. as the first line of commit message?
15:36:59 <jsled> usually at the end ... you want the first line to be something good as a subject for gnucash-changes / trac...
15:37:16 <andrewsw-afk> @tell andi5 please look at 16651 for backport, if you can. :)
15:37:16 <gncbot> andrewsw-afk: The operation succeeded.
15:37:48 <andrewsw-afk> okay, good subject with or without(?) AUDIT: as first line, and then BP as last line.
15:38:05 <jsled> without.
15:38:23 <jsled> Commits with "BP" on a line of its own will have AUDIT: prepended automagically.
15:38:28 <andrewsw-afk> got it. thanks guys. you're so patient!
15:38:47 <jsled> That way, "AUDIT:" isn't part of the commit logs/history.
15:39:08 <andrewsw-afk> okay.
15:39:28 <andrewsw-afk> I"m back afk, just wanted to get that one in before release.
15:39:29 <andrewsw-afk> later
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16:17:09 <jsled> Gah. Object data in private instances considered harmful to debugging. :/ I can't see any of the fields of an Account object!
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16:18:04 <jsled> Thank g'd that gdb can call functions. :P
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16:36:34 <cstim_win> @tell andi5 On starting the newly compiled gnucash r16650 on windows, I get the error "libtiff3.dll not found" (Anwendung konnte nicht gestartet werden, weil ...) This might be due to an incomplete rebuild here, but I *thought* I deleted all old stuff.
16:36:34 <gncbot> cstim_win: The operation succeeded.
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16:43:03 <cstim_win> @tell andi5 Seems like libgdk_pixbuf-2.0-0.dll was linked against libtiff3.dll but that dll is not currently installed by install.s
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16:43:10 <cstim_win> that was install.sh
16:45:07 <cstim_win> Could someone please look up the package to which libgdk_pixbuf belongs to?
16:45:22 <jsled> yes...
16:46:43 <jsled> ... wait, what are you asking for?
16:47:09 <cstim_win> on linux, is there a shared library named libgdk_pixbuf? If yes, to which package does it belong?
16:47:34 <dbreiser> in fink on a mac, it's just gdk-pixbuf
16:48:05 <jsled> Yes, there is; it's part of gtk.
16:48:13 <cstim_win> ok
16:49:06 <jsled> I believe it used (a long time ago) to be a separate package, but got folded into gtk. I can locate it in an old copy of the gtk-2.4.14 soure tree I have lying around.
16:49:44 <cstim_win> no, gtk+ is fine; for our windows build it's in gtk+-2.12.3.zip
16:50:46 <cstim_win> @tell andi5 obviously the pkgconfig file gdk-pixbuf-2.0.pc is missing the dependency on libtiff3.dll. sigh.
16:50:46 <gncbot> cstim_win: The operation succeeded.
16:50:50 <cstim_win> see ya
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17:09:58 <andi5> jsled: thanks!
17:10:18 <andi5> ahh, libtiff3 was loaded from gnumeric.... eek
17:10:20 <jsled> andi5: :)
17:16:45 <andi5> that is indeed a little tricky, because gnumeric sets an environment variable GTK_BASE_PATH to $GNUMERIC_PREFIX and then uses that variable inside PATH
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17:49:09 <Goofinder> How can I get the unit price excluding tax for display in an invoice report?
17:49:13 <Goofinder> eg. Quantity = 2, Unit price = 75.00, Tax rate = 10%, Subtotal = 136.36, Tax = 13.64. I want to be able to display Unit price excluding tax = 68.18
17:49:56 <Goofinder> I can get the return value (136.36) and quantity (2) and divide them, but I can't get it back to a gnc-numeric because it's telling me it's an inexact value
17:57:11 <andi5> Goofinder: inexact->exact? .... but do not trust me :)
17:59:55 <andi5> andrewsw-afk: i am not sure whether warlord told you, but please refer to bug ids in commit messages via #487572... that way trac can show links to bugzilla
18:04:43 <andi5> jsled: do you feel comfortable with r16651? ... it looks good to me, but i have no clue about reports as you know :-D
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18:26:06 <jsled> andi5 ... er ... andi6: yeah ... seems like it just defaults to using by-nearest instead of nothing
18:26:50 <andi6> ok.. thanks
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20:33:44 <nbinont> oook...this be real fun...every time to close my dvd drive my bios restarts
20:34:35 <nbinont> also seems to restart when I connect my hard drive :S
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20:46:50 <qwert> hi
20:46:53 <qwert> who ever tried to install gnucash on mac?
20:47:52 <chris> qwert: dbreiser
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21:09:39 <dbreiser> qwert: I've been doing both builds from svn and fink, but not macports
21:10:46 <dbreiser> I'm also doing laundry tonight, which is why it took me so long to notice :)
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22:08:51 <admin> any canucks here using gnucash? does gnucash work for canadians? thanks.
22:11:21 <warlord> of course it does. why wouldn't it?
22:11:57 <warlord> It's not like "if locale == en_CA or locale == fr_CA then exit with extreme prejudice" ;)
22:11:58 <admin> well warlord... some accounting softwares are country specific
22:12:13 <warlord> Maybe certain reports are country specific..
22:12:40 <admin> like microsoft's "point of sale" product is not ready for canada but their "retail whatever" can work in canada.
22:13:12 <warlord> we have plenty of canucks using gnucash
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22:13:36 <admin> am i wrong or does gnucash have a pos module?
22:14:22 <warlord> nope
22:14:25 <warlord> no POS
22:14:30 <admin> thought I heard the name when I was searching for a nix based inventory control/pos program
22:14:43 <warlord> there was at one point a gnupos.
22:14:51 <warlord> not sure about its current state
22:14:52 <admin> ah
22:15:40 <admin> personally, i think pos programs are better off staying in a dos environment. LOSE THE MOUSE.
22:15:49 <warlord> heh
22:15:55 <warlord> "touchscreen"
22:16:17 <admin> can't believe how many times cashiers are grabbing for the mouse to do a 5 second sale.
22:16:41 <admin> yes... touchscreen
22:19:56 <admin> i know and I most likely will take it for a spin but is gnucash intuitive?
22:20:32 <admin> what i meant by "i know" is I should just try it to see for myself
22:20:52 <admin> i am NOT an accountant.
22:21:10 <admin> but must get away from the spreadsheets.
22:22:14 <admin> well thanks for the chat. i'll try it on a mac
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22:25:32 <nbinont> having some trouble building ktoblzcheck
22:25:59 <warlord> what version?
22:26:10 <nbinont> 1.16
22:26:22 <nbinont> test -z "/c/soft/gwenhywfar/lib/python/site-packages" || mkdir -p -- "/c/soft/gwenhywfar/lib/python/site-packages"
22:26:22 <nbinont> /bin/install -c -m 644 'ktoblzcheck.py' '/c/soft/gwenhywfar/lib/python/site-packages/ktoblzcheck.py'
22:26:22 <nbinont> /bin/sh: Files/Python24/python: No such file or directory
22:27:02 <nbinont> maybe I should pastebin it
22:27:14 <warlord> maybe... but looks like python is missing.
22:27:15 <nbinont> but I'm not quite sure what it's telling me
22:28:20 <nbinont> but it's not trying to run python...is it? it appears to be moving a file
22:28:27 <warlord> Well, it looks like Files/Python24/python doesn't exist.
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22:30:14 <nbinont> http://pastebin.com/m54d889b6
22:30:50 <nbinont> ok.... any clue what the root of Files/Python24/python might be?
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22:33:02 <warlord> afraid not. I dont even know what ktoblzcheck or why it's needed.
22:33:40 <warlord> What does `/c/soft/tmp/ktoblzcheck-1.16/src/python/Makefile' look like?
22:34:05 <warlord> i bet it's trying to pre-compile the .py file into a .pyc
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22:34:29 <renato> Helo people...
22:36:29 <renato> After struggling with all the required packages to compile gnucash, when I try to run it I get an error message about binreloc relocation support disabled at configure time...
22:36:46 <warlord> renato: that's just a warning, not an error, and it's expected and normal
22:37:07 <warlord> just ignore it.
22:37:12 <renato> hummmm..... what about the program core dumping after the splash screen ? :-)
22:37:40 <renato> is running from the compile tree possible ?
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22:38:19 <warlord> not really.. You need to "make install" first. I highly recommend you configure with --prefix=/opt/gncash
22:38:33 <Wilddev> hey warlord
22:38:37 <warlord> hiya Wilddev
22:38:39 <renato> you mean --prefix=/opt/gnucash ?
22:39:10 <warlord> that works too ;)
22:40:26 <renato> hehehehe.... thanks for the tip.. I'll give it a shot... in case I'm changing the code and recompiling, doing make install over and over won't hurt it, wil it ?
22:41:16 <warlord> nope, but putting it into /opt/gnucash will make sure it doesn't interfere, and makes it easy to destroy the install later if you need to.
22:41:51 <renato> sure thing... will give it a shot !! btw... was that you answering my e-mails on the mailing list ?
22:42:16 <nbinont> warlord...found the problem.... in the Makefile
22:42:27 <nbinont> PYTHON = /c/Program Files/Python24/python
22:42:37 <nbinont> ...with a space
22:42:40 <warlord> renato: yep.. while on the road today. Started in Cali, now in FL
22:42:52 <warlord> nbinont: that would do it. :)
22:42:59 <nbinont> argh
22:44:33 <warlord> where is Martin when you need him? ;)
22:44:36 <renato> warlord: cool... thanks for your continued support... and sorry for being such a pain... I'm a bit rusty on this game (6 years apart from dev...)
22:45:02 <warlord> no worries
22:45:03 <nbinont> warlord: is there a way to have the Makefile generated with quotes around the paths?
22:45:19 <warlord> nbinont: I have no idea.
22:46:09 <nbinont> warlord: maybe I'll just re-install python to path without spaces
22:46:27 <warlord> How does this work for andi5?
22:46:52 <nbinont> not sure
22:47:15 <warlord> Maybe he just dosn't have python installed?
22:48:20 <warlord> does install.sh install python?
22:50:01 <nbinont> no, it does not, so you may be right
22:50:18 <nbinont> I don't think I have it installed on my usual build machine
22:51:04 <warlord> Ah.
22:51:17 <warlord> Still, should be fixed.. I suggest filing a bug report upstream.
22:51:59 <nbinont> but, that being said, I built this a while ago on this machine with v 1.14 and there was no problems
22:52:37 <warlord> Maybe they added the python interface?
22:53:58 <nbinont> I'll do some more tests with it to see if I can narrow down the change and send in a bug report...have to find the spot to report bugs
22:55:38 <warlord> good luck!
22:57:19 <nbinont> warlord: thanks for the help
22:58:40 <warlord> you;'re welcome.
23:02:20 <renato> shit... this thing is really giving me a hard time.. :-)
23:02:36 <renato> you guys use glade to edit .glade files ?
23:03:15 <renato> some of the .glade files crash glade-3 program...
23:03:26 <renato> #%&$#@$
23:03:27 <renato> :-)
23:03:38 <warlord> use glade-32
23:03:40 <warlord> -2
23:03:46 <warlord> not glade-3
23:03:51 <renato> ok...
23:04:00 <renato> will try that.. ;-)
23:06:57 <renato> cool !! it works... thanks again..
23:08:20 <nbinont> argh...now 1.14 won't build
23:10:15 <renato> well.... guess I'll be going to sleep now.. thanks and good night....
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