2007-12-12 GnuCash IRC logs

00:07:42 <andrewsw> I swear I've reinvented scheme's (map) at least three times...
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00:40:05 <andrewsw> g'night all
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09:23:40 <sheri_rao> can anyone help me find vouchers for accounting
09:24:45 <sheri_rao> anyone has resources ?
09:25:33 <jsled> vouchers?
09:27:31 <jsled> are you looking for an accounting tutorial... general accounting information?
09:30:04 <sheri_rao> jsled, yup
09:30:42 <sheri_rao> just need a website or any resource , for making internal documents like vouchers forms etc etc
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10:59:43 <goibhniu> hi, I'm a contracter based in the UK, can anyone advise software for handling payroll? According to the gnucash tutorial it doesn't help calculating tax yet, thanks
11:01:19 <goibhniu> there's payrollbash, but I had trouble installing it
11:02:51 <warlord> Unfortunately I dont know a good tool for payroll. Sorry.
11:02:59 <warlord> You can try asking on the gnucahs-user mailing list.
11:03:12 <goibhniu> ok thanks
11:03:37 <goibhniu> I guess payrollbash is really the right thing, I just have to get it working
11:04:21 <warlord> Well, it might NOT be "the right thing", but it may be "the only thing" :/
11:05:18 <goibhniu> :D
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16:21:25 <HelgeS> If I want to write my own report, where should I place the file?
16:23:13 <jsled> You could put it in ~/.gnucash/, I think.
16:23:30 <jsled> Or, obviously, modify the build to install it alongside the other reports.
16:23:42 <jsled> Or just put it alongside the installed reports, modifying them in-place (messy!)
16:24:00 <jsled> http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Custom_Reports
16:24:16 <HelgeS> Thanks, I'll go with ~/.gnucash/ until I've learnt it.
16:33:24 <warlord> Actually, you could put it anywhere.. Then modify ~/.gnucash/config.user to load it.
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16:44:21 <HelgeS> Is there a way to test reports before they are used by Gnucash, so that I don't have to start Gnucash for every change in the report?
16:45:02 <andrewsw-afk> HelgeS: no
16:45:31 <HelgeS> Really?
16:48:48 <jsled> You need to restart gnucash to have it re-evaluate the report.
16:50:54 <warlord> well, at one point I did have a debug button that would re-load the scheme in order to help debug a report, but in general, yes, you need to reload every time.
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16:52:15 <andrewsw> that would be a nice feature...
16:59:39 <warlord> Actually, take a look at gnc_plugin_business_cmd_test_reload_invoice_report()
17:03:35 <andrewsw> cool... thanks
17:09:17 <warlord> I think you need to run gnucash with --extra to get that menu item to show up, but you could base it on that.
17:09:46 <warlord> So, HelgeS, you could use that interface.
17:12:21 <andrewsw> any reason *not* to use that in general (other than dev cycles)? It could be called whenever a report is saved to make it appear in the menus immediately, for example.
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17:13:47 <jsled> It might not.
17:14:46 <warlord> Yeah, it doesnt affect menus per se.
17:14:55 <warlord> It's also not "safe" to do repeatedly.
17:15:04 <andrewsw> hmmm... but maybe a starting point?
17:15:15 <andrewsw> how so not "Safe"?
17:16:13 <jsled> The menu-handling code is basically non-existant. It just builds the menu at startup, and not very well.
17:18:19 <jsled> But so long as the report entry point isn't moving about, that should be fine.
17:19:58 <andrewsw> okay.
17:23:20 <warlord> reloading the report doesn't work consistently..
17:23:40 <warlord> I found that it would work a FEW times, but then I'd still have to restart gnucash periodically.
17:23:45 <warlord> I'm just saying YMMV.
17:24:05 <warlord> It's better than restarting every time, but dont expect to stop having to restart.
17:26:24 <andrewsw> fair enough. really though, I've got it built into my workflow already to restart it.
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23:28:59 <ttick> I don't suppose anyone has a pdf 2 QIF converter? Just thought I'd ask before I write one.
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