2007-11-18 GnuCash IRC logs

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00:38:26 <niklauz> hi all :-)
00:48:09 <niklauz> can anyone offer simple guidance on how to take advantage of transaction matching? I'm worried I'll jaepordize all my previous work if I mess it up...
00:48:19 <niklauz> anyone not mind helping?
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09:20:12 <versuchsanstalt> how can i find out if my version of gnucash is hbci-enabled? (debian etch)
09:21:53 <andi5> versuchsanstalt: do you see a menu Aktionen > Online Aktionen when you are on your "Konten" tab?
09:23:10 <versuchsanstalt> nope - which means that it is not enabled, right?
09:23:21 <andi5> yep
09:23:37 <versuchsanstalt> feels like i have to install something like libaqhbci10
09:23:50 <versuchsanstalt> thank you
09:25:10 <versuchsanstalt> ... which doesnt seem to fix it. is there a debian repository that has a hbci-enabled version you know of?
09:26:01 <andi5> one moment
09:26:15 <versuchsanstalt> thank you andi5
09:27:15 <andi5> deb http://aqbanking.alioth.debian.org/debian/ etch/ ... i have no clue whether they work for you
09:27:20 <warlord> versuchsanstalt: debian doesn't build gnucash with hbci
09:27:34 <warlord> You need to rebuild gnucash. See the wiki.
09:27:43 <versuchsanstalt> thx andi5, thx warlord
09:28:08 <versuchsanstalt> i'll check if andi5 's suggestion will do it and then look at compiling myself.
09:28:42 <andi5> gcc: `me` not found
09:29:04 <warlord> andi5: :-P
09:29:08 <versuchsanstalt> ;-)
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10:35:20 <warlord> It just means you need to keep yourself logged in 24/7 ;)
10:35:45 <aquamaniac> right :-)
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10:54:13 <warlord> Yay jsled!
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11:20:37 <warlord> heh
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11:53:15 <andi5> eek: http://pastebin.ca/780573 , cf. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=497831
12:00:48 <warlord> andi5: lovely. IIRC you're the one who changed that ;)
12:01:19 <andi5> are you sure it worked before?
12:01:23 <andi5> i did not touch this case, irr
12:01:25 <andi5> iirc
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12:02:00 <warlord> I dont know.
12:02:58 <andi5> i thought about changing the format to "%x" and friends, but this did not work out well enough (esp. on windows, but that was pesky nonetheless)
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12:19:49 <Johannes42> hi, sorry to disturb you, but I have a problem I couldn't find in the faqs.
12:19:49 <Johannes42> My Expense Over Time-Report displays no data, while the Income/Expense Accounts report does. I selected the right currency.
12:22:20 <Johannes42> actually the income/expense chart is the only thing that works. all others single income or expense reports can't find any data.
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12:25:09 <andi5> i guess you selected the correct accounts with appropriate levels and start and end dates?
12:25:46 <Johannes42> andi5: the right account is selected, and level is 2. All is default (also tried the button).
12:25:53 <Johannes42> I have GnuCash 2.0.5
12:26:52 <andi5> i have no clue whether the default settings are correct for you :-)
12:27:29 <andrewsw> andi5: is 497831 somehow possibly related to that "can't reconcile in French" issue?
12:27:54 <Johannes42> andi5: well, let me put it that way: The selected one has the right name for the report and contains data.
12:28:09 <andi5> andrewsw: i doubt that... i suppose the latter is about amount whereas 497831 is about dates
12:28:24 <andi5> but both seem to be related to scanning strings :)
12:28:39 <andrewsw> andi5: only a thought in that something like a locale shouldn't be an issue like this... IMO
12:29:22 <andi5> andrewsw: well... then please tell me why the glibc crew added parameters to strftime that strptime cannot grok :)
12:29:38 <Johannes42> income vs. Day of the Week works too.
12:29:41 <andi5> i cannot reproduce the french issue though
12:30:14 <andi5> andrewsw: btw, two of the locales seem to have yet another problem.. i am not sure about that one
12:30:18 <andi5> yet
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12:30:41 <andrewsw> andi5: not a clue, just a momentary connection.
12:30:48 <andrewsw> thx for the bp, btw. :)
12:31:08 <andrewsw> anyway, I'm still kid-ccupied. later.
12:31:10 <andi5> andrewsw: excuse me for not looking at the pending patches :-(
12:31:17 <andi5> see ya
12:31:35 <Johannes42> hmm ... in the Accounts tab, when I select a account and press Apply, it changes to nothing selected and the report says 'This report requires accounts to be selected.'
12:31:56 <andi5> Johannes42: do you want to send me a sample file?
12:32:18 <Johannes42> andi5: of what? everything?
12:33:08 <andi5> ah well, somehow i thought you were testing gnucash right now... you do not need to :-)
12:33:54 <andi5> Johannes42: so far i have no clue how to help you, i am sorry
12:33:58 <Johannes42> andi5: well I could send it to you, if that would help me ...
12:35:49 <andi5> i guess the other guys (those marked afk or offline) could help you better... the only report i remember especially is the pie chart which requires positive data
12:36:33 <Johannes42> well I got one pie chart that works, and one bar chart
12:38:11 <Johannes42> andi5: thanks though for trying!
12:38:38 <andi5> sorry
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14:19:25 <Johannes42> My "... over time" reports can't find any data. income/expense chart and the "... vs. Day of Week" work though. I made sure the right currency, the account and the right level are selected, however the data doesn't show up. what could be the cause?
14:22:37 <jsled> the date range is wrong?
14:22:49 <Johannes42> jsled: nope
14:22:53 <Johannes42> tried that too
14:27:01 <Johannes42> the software works (I just created a new account and tried), so something must be wrong with my settings or the account
14:27:58 <Johannes42> oh, mixed terminology: the software works (I just created a new *file* and tried), so something must be wrong with my settings or the file
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17:31:46 <Johannes42> :-|
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19:12:19 <CptofMySoul> Hi, Everybody.
19:12:43 <CptofMySoul> <-long time fan, first time IRC'er.
19:13:06 <andi5> <-evil
19:13:24 <CptofMySoul> Takes all kinds. Hey, what is a 'meta-ask'?
19:13:37 <andi5> hi... may i ask a question?
19:13:49 <andi5> or... may i ask whether i might try asking a question?
19:14:02 <CptofMySoul> Ah, I C.
19:16:32 <CptofMySoul> Well, in that spirit... How can I change the colors used for charts in gnucash 2.2? The charts are not showing up. I'm running gnucash on a mac installed with macports. I thought it was the window manager under xdarwin first, but I tried a different one. It didn't change.
19:16:57 <andi5> you mean we use white on white?
19:17:08 <andi5> or do you mean real print-outs?
19:18:16 <CptofMySoul> white on white. I haven't tried printing anything out. On some, like if I push it to make a lot of colors, stacked expense bars, for instance, I get some washed out colors, but mostly I just get white on white.
19:18:39 <andi5> on screen?
19:18:43 <CptofMySoul> Yes
19:18:54 <andi5> do you see this: THIS? ;-)
19:19:50 <CptofMySoul> Yes, but I'm in native OS X right now. In Gnucash, I see all the colors of the icons. I can't tell that graphically anything is wrong until I look at a report.
19:19:56 <andi5> unless i have fixed it (read: no), these colors are hard-coded in the goffice source code
19:20:34 <andi5> that is weird... i have never heard about such a problem
19:20:40 <CptofMySoul> goffice hard codes its graph colors?
19:21:34 <andi5> it is nontrivial (i have not yet seen a real api for this) to change the colors of single slices/data series from gnucash
19:21:49 <andi5> so goffice uses its default color set
19:21:57 <andi5> but i may be completely wrong
19:22:07 <CptofMySoul> The charts were fine until I recently upgraded. Chart support through goffice was one of the things implemented in a latest revision, right?
19:22:24 <CptofMySoul> OK, that's interesting.
19:22:33 <andi5> please make sure you ask this question on gnucash-user or -devel (make sure Mr Reiser reads it), or file a bug report
19:22:58 <andi5> it is used since gnucash 2.0.0
19:23:18 <andi5> did you upgrade libgoffice as well?
19:23:18 <CptofMySoul> Yes, I had already sent a message to the -user mailing list, but I didn't get any replies.
19:23:22 <andi5> oh
19:24:11 <CptofMySoul> I had to install everything including libgoffice. My last installation was through fink, and I couldn't figure out how to upgrade. So I did a complete installation through macports.
19:24:14 <andi5> Rudye?
19:24:20 <CptofMySoul> lol... yes
19:24:22 <andi5> ok
19:24:37 <andi5> damn, /whois ;-)
19:26:15 <andi5> have you checked the archives? http://lists.gnucash.org/search ?
19:27:47 <CptofMySoul> I had before I posted the message, but that's been at least a month ago. I'll try again.
19:27:58 <andi5> i cannot find anything else too
19:29:15 <CptofMySoul> OK, thanks for looking.
19:29:39 <andi5> @tell dbr do you have any information regarding http://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2007-October/022033.html ?
19:29:39 <gncbot> andi5: The operation succeeded.
19:30:01 <andi5> that is all i can do for you, sorry :(
19:30:22 <andi5> i do not want to flood his email box :)
19:30:52 <CptofMySoul> Of course, do you think I should post again since it has been awhile?
19:31:36 <CptofMySoul> Maybe I should be bugging the goffice list.
19:31:43 <andi5> you might want to wait a few days, maybe david reads this, but yes, you could retry or check your update options :)
19:31:50 <andi5> or macports?
19:31:53 <andi5> does gnumeric work?
19:32:23 <andi5> or maybe you mixed fink and macports unluckily?
19:33:27 <CptofMySoul> gnumeric... that seems a good idea. I'll install that and see what it does.
19:33:51 <andi5> ok... it is quite late here.... good luck!
19:34:11 <CptofMySoul> thanks...g'night
19:34:17 <andi5> g'night
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