2007-11-16 GnuCash IRC logs
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01:15:29 <andrewsw> wow... slow these days, huh?
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10:44:45 <phade> hallo
10:44:55 <phade> habe das programm installiert
10:45:01 <phade> es tut sich leider nichts
10:45:13 <phade> kann jemand helfen?
10:45:15 <phade> bitte
10:45:53 <jsled> phade: hello. this channel is mostly english.
10:46:25 <phade> i have installed the program
10:46:38 <phade> when i want to open it nothing happens
10:46:49 <jsled> what distro?
10:46:58 <phade> windows
10:47:15 <jsled> Ah. Is gnucash-bin or gconfd running in the task list?
10:47:15 <phade> seufz..
10:48:43 <phade> there is gnucash-bin.exe in the task manager
10:49:06 <phade> and a dos windows pops up and out
10:49:21 <jsled> http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Windows#Known_issues
10:49:38 <jsled> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=449153 in particular.
10:53:55 <phade> is there a solution for this problem?
10:55:39 <jsled> Well, that bug is resolved as a duplicate of <http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=363648>. 363648 is still "New", so it has no resolution.
10:55:40 <jsled> So, no.
11:01:07 <phade> 50mb for trash..
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11:03:40 <jsled> you're welcome, asshole.
11:06:08 <warlord> Oh, the ORBit Comm failure...
11:06:17 <warlord> We're just waiting on a new DLL from upstream.
11:37:10 <chris> no way... windows has to be more than 50mb.
11:38:04 <jsled> heh
11:42:00 <warlord> hehehe
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15:50:34 <dipswitch> hello, does anyone know how financial software (and banks) deal with rounding differences? for instance there's a 1/3rd discount on a product of $1 and someone buys 3, is that 99c or $1?
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15:54:43 <wharp> gnucash keeps telling me the transaction I am entering is being edited in another register even though it is a new transaction and no other registers are open. Is this a known bug? I couldn't find anything on bugzilla
15:54:44 <dipswitch> or 2/3rd
15:55:12 <warlord> depends on the company.
15:55:35 <warlord> wharp: it's apparently something that chris has seen
15:55:39 <dipswitch> there's no formal way of doing this in any financial software?
15:56:13 <wharp> is there any info on what causes it or ways to avoid it?
15:57:03 <warlord> dipswitch: no, because each place does it differently.
15:57:11 <warlord> wharp: unfortunately no.
15:57:18 <warlord> (at least, not that I know of)
15:57:19 <dipswitch> no laws anywhere in the world?
15:57:19 <jsled> dipswitch: there are many well-known ways to do rounding. I'm not sure there's "standard".
15:57:24 <warlord> dipswitch: nope
15:57:31 <warlord> there's no single way
15:58:09 <jsled> wharp: what register view/mode are you using when you encounter the issue?
15:58:14 <dipswitch> hm, so a bank could choose if they want to get a little richer or not by either owning rounding differences or letting them go nowhere
15:58:53 <wharp> currently basic without double line, though I can't say that's always been the case
15:59:25 <wharp> I normally use auto-split but I don't remember it happening then
15:59:27 <jsled> dipswitch: Right. See Office Space, Superman 3. :)
15:59:42 <dipswitch> yeah i've seen office space :) but it was like 12 years ago
16:00:00 <wharp> there's no excuse for that, Office Space should be watched at least every 3 months if not more often
16:00:06 <dipswitch> hell no
16:00:10 <dipswitch> it wasnt that great
16:00:22 <wharp> lol
16:00:30 <wharp> Depends on where you work I guess
16:01:25 <dipswitch> wherever i work, it'll still not be very funny, and i'd still hate dilbert
16:03:24 <dipswitch> anywayz, much thanks for explaining it -_-' cya
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16:07:58 <wharp> Oh, and I'm also using a filter part of the time
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17:00:53 <andrewsw> hey, just FTR, I've seen that "edited in another register" bit as well. I haven't asked because I haven't been able to reproduce it reliably.
17:01:26 <andrewsw> It happens in both 2.0.x and 2.2.1 on debian and seems to be related to aborting the edit of a transaction while in the process
17:01:43 <andrewsw> of autofilling (or whatever its called).
17:01:54 <andrewsw> crap kids crying. later...
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17:20:17 <Patrick_> Hi, I am using gnucash 2.2.1 on Windows. The GUI itself is switchable to German, but can I also create a German account hierarchy without having to translate all account names myself?
17:23:47 <warlord> Patrick_: sure, if you run the GUI in a german locale, the File -> New -> New File / hierarchy druid will present you the german account trees.
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17:27:37 <Patrick_> Would be nice, but... this is not the case :)
17:32:38 <warlord> Then you're not running in a LANG=de domain
17:34:21 <Patrick_> well, the UI itself is German
17:35:23 <Patrick_> I am running it on Windows. Do I have to set an environment variable?
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17:44:48 <andi5> Patrick_: just open $prefix\bin\gnucash.bat and add the line "set LANG=de_DE" to the beginning of the file
17:47:26 <Patrick_> andi5: thanks, that worked
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17:49:53 <andi5> btw, someone should tell the GnucashPortable crew about the capital C in GnuCash :-D
17:50:01 <jsled> heh.
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17:59:26 <andi5> [ot] nice... ubuntus gutsy-security repository gives me 403 (forbidden) :-)
17:59:53 <andi5> i hope that is not meant politically
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23:03:47 <ArcRiley> guess my question about adding liberty dollar is moot
23:06:20 <jsled> ArcRiley: hmm?
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23:12:45 <ArcRiley> liberty dollar was raided, the government ceized all their warehouses of silver and gold stock which their paper notes were backed by
23:12:54 <ArcRiley> and all the recently minted but not distributed coins
23:13:17 <ArcRiley> thus begins a year+ series of lawsuits.
23:14:15 <ArcRiley> but the system is basically dead right now, everyone's paper notes became evidence with which to class-action suit the government to get their silver/gold with, and the hard currency has defaulted to it's (lower) value of the metal itself
23:14:48 <ArcRiley> so a version of gnucash which supports ALD - not such a big deal.
23:15:09 <ArcRiley> long as it has XAG ;-)
23:15:13 <jsled> Well, you can readily add it to src/engine/iso-4217-currencies.scm, except that it's not.
23:15:22 <ArcRiley> right
23:15:35 <ArcRiley> it'd be nice if you could add currencies which are not iso 4217
23:15:45 <jsled> You can. That list is in name only.
23:15:48 <ArcRiley> all sorts of alternative currencies people use in different places
23:15:59 <ArcRiley> nono I mean without patching that file.
23:16:12 <ArcRiley> we already built a gentoo ebuild which patches it at compile time
23:16:24 <jsled> "we" who?
23:16:35 <ArcRiley> a few of us in new hampshire
23:16:39 <jsled> Ah.
23:17:26 <ArcRiley> i /was/ just about to get a development contract to patch up gnucash with custom branding (of course including attribution) for local small business owners who accepted liberty dollar
23:18:12 <ArcRiley> that may still happen for branding but XAG is all we need, since everyone's switching to silver rounds/bars trading on the weight of the silver instead
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