2007-11-14 GnuCash IRC logs

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09:50:40 <Fries> wow
09:50:42 <Fries> hello people
09:50:53 *** warlord-afk is now known as warlord
09:51:46 <Fries> GNUCASH is a window application or webbased?
09:51:57 <warlord> It's a desktop app
09:52:10 <Fries> oh no! i was thinking i found the best software
09:52:17 <Fries> and its nto web base.
09:52:18 <Fries> shit..
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09:53:09 <warlord> It IS the best software ;)
09:53:20 <warlord> (for the right usages)
09:53:20 <Fries> but i need a web based simple accounting :(
09:53:35 <Fries> or maybe cash management only :(
09:53:54 <warlord> why do you need web based accounting?
09:54:19 <warlord> or, rather, why do you think you need it?
09:54:27 <Fries> its a small small business (try out) that my father borrowed me 3000 to build
09:54:36 <Fries> then he wants to see my cash in and out...
09:54:41 <Fries> and if posisble some cat..
09:54:44 <Fries> and he is in oversea
09:54:48 <Fries> only internet access
09:56:04 <warlord> And he can't ssh in? Or you can't send him the data file?
09:56:14 <Fries> i am on windows.
09:56:16 <Fries> hmm
09:56:31 <Fries> i am thinking, can the data file be used like a NETWORK file?
09:56:41 <Fries> so i share this datafile on the new...
09:57:02 <warlord> Yes, but only one user can use it at a time.
09:57:09 <warlord> But yes, it can be on a file server..
09:57:17 <Fries> he VIEW but he dont edit...
09:57:32 <Fries> or any recommendation on some web based small simple acocunting?
09:58:11 <warlord> SQL-Ledger
09:58:40 * Fries types google.com
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10:00:28 <Fries> this is hard >.<
10:01:06 <warlord> what, trying to find sql-ledger?
10:01:11 <Fries> nono..
10:01:13 <warlord> (which might require that you run a Linux server)
10:01:15 <Fries> sql-ledger is hard to use..
10:01:22 <Fries> i have a linux server...
10:01:45 <warlord> Yeah, I would bet it is.. It's why I chose to stick with gnucash. BUT .. I dont have your "remote access" requirement.
10:02:11 <Fries> thats sad
10:02:14 <Fries> any other choice?
10:02:16 <warlord> Your other option is to just send him periodic reports.. Every day, every week, every month -- you could send him a Balance Sheet and Income Statement.
10:02:34 <Fries> nice idea too..
10:02:39 <Fries> before i use GNUcash...
10:02:44 <Fries> is it really very simple?
10:02:49 <warlord> Gnucash?
10:02:57 <Fries> i hate to spend time trying to figure out how to use a software...
10:03:03 <Fries> like MYOB or quick books
10:03:06 <chris> gnuCASH?!
10:03:08 <Fries> it spend lots of time to learn it..
10:03:09 <warlord> Go ahead and try it.. *I* think it is, but i've been using it for a while.
10:03:32 <cortilap> quasar?
10:03:51 <Fries> quasar?
10:03:53 * Fries google quasar
10:04:13 <cortilap> another option would be to install an X sever and access it like that
10:04:30 <Fries> cortilap? wad do u mean...
10:04:39 <cortilap> or if you don't have a fast enough connection, run an X server on the server side and have your client connect with VNC
10:04:42 <Fries> install on X server ? as in windows desktop connection?
10:04:50 <Fries> i only have a linux server :(
10:05:00 <Fries> unless i can run windows in it.. which i never try before.. lol
10:05:21 <warlord> You can run X on a linux server.
10:05:31 <warlord> And then remote-desktop into it...
10:05:42 <Fries> my linux is a tand now i only have SSH...
10:05:51 <Fries> i mean
10:05:55 <cortilap> it can (should!) be tunnelled over ssh
10:05:56 <Fries> my linux is a TEXT base..
10:06:02 <Fries> and now i only have a SSH access...
10:06:12 <Fries> i have never try before
10:06:19 <Fries> i am scared that i might spoil the server
10:06:40 <Fries> this server runs many company webhosting website
10:06:44 <Fries> it cannot be down..
10:06:52 <Fries> unless someone tried it and experience cna help me..
10:07:13 <cortilap> well... your policies for deploying software and testing that it works with the rest of your system are up to you ;)
10:07:35 <cortilap> whether the software you are installing is a web application, or not, does not really effect that
10:07:37 <Fries> i have no more computers to test linux :(
10:08:16 <warlord> vmware is your friend.
10:08:26 <Fries> never heard of it too :(
10:08:32 <Fries> i am a linux noob..
10:12:39 <Fries> alright gnucash is installed in my desktop now
10:15:03 <warlord> Enjoy!
10:18:09 <Fries> warlord
10:18:15 <Fries> i choose account to create
10:18:21 <Fries> seems A simple checkbook suits me
10:18:33 <Fries> but i want to add in a Savings account (that i saw in business accounts)
10:18:38 <Fries> can i add in later?
10:19:25 <warlord> Of course
10:20:18 <Fries> oh i clicked NEw
10:22:25 <Fries> wow
10:22:28 <Fries> GUNCASH is GREAT
10:22:31 <Fries> EASY MANAGE!
10:22:33 <Fries> NICE!
10:23:54 <warlord> :-D
10:26:15 <Fries> i added new customers
10:26:18 <Fries> and added new invoice
10:26:30 <Fries> where to see all the invoice i created?
10:30:34 <warlord> Business -> Customer -> Find Invoice
10:30:41 <Fries> like a report
10:30:44 <Fries> all invoice in a list
10:30:49 <Fries> i can choose which invoice i want to see
10:31:10 <warlord> There is no "report of all invoices". You can run a Receivable Aging report.. Or a Customer report.
10:32:35 <Fries> and the process payment dont work :(
10:34:08 <warlord> What do you mean?
10:34:26 <Fries> i make a payment process of the invoice
10:34:52 <Fries> and i choose post to Collection (a recieveable account)
10:34:58 <Fries> and transger to Bank account
10:35:03 <Fries> both acocunt has no changes on the total...
10:35:21 <warlord> What currencies?
10:35:25 <Fries> SGD
10:35:35 <warlord> What's your locale currency?
10:35:44 <Fries> SGD
10:36:10 <warlord> So the computer knows that?
10:36:17 <Fries> yes
10:36:18 <warlord> Did the invoice posting work?
10:36:20 <Fries> i set to SGD already
10:36:32 <Fries> NO
10:36:33 <Fries> it did not
10:37:00 <warlord> How did you "set to SGD already"?
10:37:16 <Fries> from the first startt setup wizard
10:37:56 <warlord> Which "first startt [sic] setup wizard"?
10:38:29 <warlord> in GnuCash?
10:39:00 <Fries> yea
10:39:05 <Fries> when i start up
10:39:07 <Fries> setup new accounts
10:39:12 <Fries> they ask me what currency i want
10:39:15 <warlord> Right, that's not your "locale currency"
10:39:31 <warlord> The "locale currency" is configured in your computer settings.
10:39:35 <warlord> (NOT gnucash)
10:39:45 <Fries> they have to be matched?!
10:39:48 <warlord> Yes
10:40:03 <warlord> gnucash uses the locale currency in a few places...
10:40:29 <Fries> ok i go set in control panel
10:40:37 <Fries> sorry, under where?
10:40:47 <warlord> Most likely you have your customer currency set to "locale currency", so it's doing the wrong thing.
10:40:51 <warlord> I have no clue -- I dont do Windows.
10:41:22 <Fries> done
10:41:24 <Fries> changed.
10:41:35 <Fries> i reopen guncash again
10:42:33 <warlord> Now you need to recreate the invoice and re-process the payment.
10:42:47 <warlord> (or, at least, edit the invoice and re-choose the customer)
10:43:08 <warlord> And you'll need to manually delete the Payment transaction.
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10:50:06 <Fries> it works now
10:50:10 <Fries> in customer report tis nice
10:50:14 <Fries> its nics..
10:50:31 <Fries> but.... i click process payment
10:50:35 <Fries> POST to bank accounts
10:50:42 <Fries> the bank account did not add money in ..
10:50:44 <Fries> damn
10:51:28 <Fries> i see the record lines
10:51:32 <Fries> but no amount there.. damn
10:53:11 <warlord> Did you put an amount in the process payment dialog?
10:53:16 <Fries> yea
10:53:23 <Fries> the customer reoprt is prefect.
10:54:16 <warlord> okay..
10:54:29 <warlord> As for the Proc Pay.. I have no idea.
10:55:26 <warlord> The only times I've seen it fail is when the currencies dont match.
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17:22:06 <elbeanio> hi i'm having problems with the fonts when printing invoices, they are sans-serif on screen but when printed they come out much larger and look like times, any ideas how to change them?
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