2007-10-28 GnuCash IRC logs
00:29:11 *** warlord sets mode: +o gncbot
00:29:53 <warlord> Okay, the server is "back" (modulo the issues I already mentioned)
00:29:56 <warlord> I'll go send mai.
00:29:58 <warlord> mail
00:32:37 <warlord> The actual RAID rebuild only took... 20 minutes...
00:35:40 <warlord> I hereby deem the server "officially up"
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01:34:32 <warlord> time for bed. good night
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01:36:00 <nbinont> night
01:36:09 <nbinont> thanks for all your hard work today
01:37:25 <warlord-afk> you're welcome.
01:37:48 <warlord-afk> I only installed one of the new drives.. I figure I can install the other one "later" if/when I need it.
01:38:05 <nbinont> cool
01:38:21 <warlord-afk> okay, bedtime. *waves*
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03:27:15 <nvictor> hi all
03:27:23 <nvictor> I'm new and I need help
03:28:00 <nvictor> anybody online?
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07:17:13 <administrator> hello andi5.
07:17:15 <administrator> I was able now to recompile gnucash however now i cant start it becouse gnucash crash while it loads modules !
07:17:17 <administrator> could you please maybe try to compile the newest version of gnucash based on this infos here
07:17:19 <administrator> http://groups.google.ch/group/gnucash/web/how-to-build-gnucash-from-the-sources?hl=de
07:17:21 <administrator> and tell me if it works for you.
07:17:22 <administrator> here is the erroro log while the crash
07:17:24 <administrator> http://pastebin.com/m7274e4bf
07:20:47 <andi5> administrator: when you run "svn diff" in you source tree, does it print anything? do you have any idea what file gnucash is reading in line 25 of the scheme backtrace?
07:21:08 <andi5> what version of guile do you use?
07:21:25 <administrator> guile-1.6
07:25:49 <andi5> ok, i will try to go back to guile-1.6.... although i highly doubt that it will break my builds :)
07:26:09 <administrator> svn diff show my whole selfmade invoice.scm that worked with no problems before the upgrade and it show also this here
07:26:29 <andi5> have you tried with the default invoice.scm?
07:26:57 <administrator> http://pastebin.com/mcef48d5
07:28:04 <administrator> i will try to rename the invoice.scm file and put the original file in the tree
07:28:42 <andi5> you can probably just replace the file in its installed location
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07:47:59 <administrator> andi5: the problem is really the invoice.scm after the replacement gnucash has started with no problems. i am wondering now why it has worked before.
07:49:03 <administrator> i see some new feautures in gnucash. the close tab buttons are nice juast for some reason a little to small. Here is a picture for you http://s4.directupload.net/file/d/1229/rt7e8nna_png.htm
07:49:03 <andi5> may you pastebin your changes as well, please? ... Oh, and please try to check your local modifications first the next time... thanks :-)
07:51:04 <andi5> yep, that is a cut-down version of the close icon of the human theme... with other themes it looks better... we cutted the icons to make tabbar a little smaller, just like gaim did it
07:57:57 <administrator> here is my modifiyed invoice.scm. What i am wondering a little is that there are at the end some modifications rom svn that maybe broke the hole thing
07:58:00 <administrator> http://pastebin.com/d51fb8d99
07:58:28 <andi5> lol
07:58:33 <andi5> i am sorry
07:58:45 <andi5> you are suffering an svn merge conflict
07:58:58 <andi5> look for <<< and >>>
07:59:32 <andi5> you will need to resolve it by hand and then mark the file as resolved by running "svn resolved invoice.scm"
08:01:08 <administrator> hmmmm i need to delete the part between <<< >>>?
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08:02:03 <andi5> no... please read http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.1/ch03s05.html#svn-ch-3-sect-5.4
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08:12:23 <administrator> can you tell me for what exactly the change is ? i see there something like "invalid invoice" and so on. i am right if i make in the terminal "svn resolved invoice.scm" my changes will stay and the other changes will be destroyed ?
08:13:33 <andi5> no, that command simple marks the file as resolved, just as i said... it does not touch the file at all...
08:14:27 <administrator> i dont understand. what happen after resolved with the strange signs in my file ?
08:14:45 <andi5> you might want to use svn to get that information... maybe start with "svn log invoice.scm | less", then checkout svn.gnucash.orc/trac about the revisions that bug you
08:14:51 <andi5> NOTHING
08:16:31 <andi5> i suggest you run "svn diff" on that file more often
08:16:43 <administrator> from my side of view the crash happen becouse of this strange signs in my file. What i would like to know if there is some easy method to backward the change
08:16:56 <administrator> in this file
08:18:33 <andi5> that is not possible, both changes, yours and the upstream ones, have been merged... it is now your task to manually resolve them (by choosing the version you like or create a reasonable merge of them, or reverting the file and adding your changes once again).... all this is described in the svn book i linked above... please g o r e a d it :-)
08:20:56 <administrator> thanks for your help. I think i have found a fast solution till the next svn update i will overwritte the invoice.scm allways with my own after the svn checkout
08:21:15 <andi5> arrggh...
08:21:23 <andi5> that is fast, but will bite you
08:22:44 <andi5> do not you think that upstream changes to several files are interconnected? suppose some change is necessary to make the report render at all... i can tell you that you will definitely want the changes
08:23:25 <andi5> just make sure that you clean up conflicting regions in that one file... that is not hard, really
08:23:34 <administrator> you are right. I have to make it the right way !
08:24:36 <administrator> i will now to resolve the conflict in that file. Thanks once again for the big help !
08:25:17 <andi5> have fun... and please excuse me for being too harsh, that is me ;-(
08:26:22 <administrator> no its ok
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08:44:00 <andi5> hi&bye cstim
08:44:14 <cstim> bye andi5 - thanks for the goffice upgrade.
08:44:29 <andi5> do you think we need it for branches/2.2?
08:44:37 <cstim> yes, probably.
08:44:46 <andi5> ok... feel free to backport it :-)
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10:12:17 <warlord> w00t! I got milter-sender working!
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10:16:11 <warlord> good morning, andi5
10:16:17 <andi5> hiho warlord
10:16:56 <andi5> thanks a lot for your work yesterday :-)
10:17:42 <warlord> I just got milter-sender working a couple minutes ago.
10:17:52 <warlord> I have to modify it to link to libdb-4.5 instead of libdb-4.2
10:18:15 <warlord> s/have/had
10:18:21 <andi5> hm... what is milter-sender?
10:18:23 <warlord> But now it's humming along.
10:18:33 <warlord> It's a sender-verify + greylisting package.
10:18:40 <andi5> for mails?
10:18:47 <warlord> No, for http! :-P
10:18:51 <andi5> *g*
10:19:03 <warlord> yeah.. for sendmail.
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11:15:37 <andi5> warlord: did jack send you his data file? (<subject>Can not load GnuCash</subject>)
11:25:49 <warlord> no
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13:07:30 <Fourbit> Howdy all. I'm totally new to GnuCash having been spoiled by Quickbooks. I'm slowly learning. But, I have a question.
13:08:53 <Fourbit> When "posting" an invoice, the system marks it as paid at the same time. How do I save the invoice and print it but, still have it marked as unpaid?
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13:13:24 <warlord> Um, it would only be marked as paid if you've already Processed the Payment..
13:35:07 <Fourbit> Warlord, thats' what I thought. But, when I 'post' it, an entry for that appears and an entry for the payment appears as well.
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13:36:26 <andi5> hm....
13:37:41 <warlord> he left..
13:38:08 <andi5> for me, he is still visible
13:38:33 <andi5> but he may have made the channel invite-only (ahem... actually, i seem to have advised him to do that)
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13:39:17 <andi5> that is fun
13:39:35 <andi5> ah... n and i are letters in my name :-)
13:40:10 <warlord> how did you do that?
13:40:13 *** gncbot sets mode: -i
13:40:37 <andi5> i send gncbot mode commands
13:40:50 <warlord> oh, that was bad.
13:40:56 <andi5> indeed
13:41:03 <warlord> yeah, definiitely dont want invite-only
13:41:06 <andi5> is that mode correct now again?
13:41:17 <warlord> i think so.
13:41:22 <andi5> *puhh*
13:41:33 <warlord> not sure it we care about -n
13:41:46 <warlord> so where is fourbit?
13:42:19 <andi5> fourbit?
13:42:47 <warlord> <Fourbit> Warlord, thats' what I thought. But, when I 'post' it, an entry for that appears and an entry for the payment appears as well.
13:43:14 <andi5> ah... i forgot that i was disconnected :)
13:43:32 <warlord> :-P
13:46:28 <andi5> nbinont: ping
14:03:51 <andi5> @tell nbinont what do you think about a new gnucash release on the next weekend?
14:03:51 <gncbot> andi5: The operation succeeded.
14:04:53 <andi5> warlord: in case you have some spare time, may you take a look at (some of) the backport candidates?
14:06:06 <warlord> Um, yeah, about that.
14:06:17 <andi5> that would be cool, thanks
14:06:36 <warlord> I really dont have time to do 2.2 backports
14:08:04 <andi5> for me it would suffice if you said "go do it" :-)
14:09:18 <andi5> ok, i have to leave... see you
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14:22:19 <nbinont> @tell andi5 Next week works for me. I'm usualy away from my build machine for the weekend, but I can have the build up for monday night. (just make a note in the release announcement that the windows binary will be available after a day or two)
14:22:19 <gncbot> nbinont: The operation succeeded.
14:22:20 <gncbot> nbinont: Sent 18 minutes ago: <andi5> what do you think about a new gnucash release on the next weekend?
14:23:58 <warlord> nbinont: do you do builds on an actual machine or in a VM?
14:24:54 <nbinont> it's an actual machine
14:25:06 <warlord> Ah, oh well.
14:26:12 <nbinont> actually an older machine that I have more less dedicated to OSS stuff (ok, so this only includes gnucash now ;) )
14:27:14 <warlord> In the spring, when I return from my winter hideaway, I plan to acquire a VM host server, so if it was a VM it would be easy to migrate.
14:30:10 <nbinont> what software would you be using for the VM server?
14:30:21 <warlord> @andi5 Go ahead; you're welcome to take over the 2.2 backports job.
14:30:21 <gncbot> warlord: Error: "andi5" is not a valid command.
14:30:28 <warlord> @tell andi5 Go ahead; you're welcome to take over the 2.2 backports job.
14:30:28 <gncbot> warlord: The operation succeeded.
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14:30:43 <warlord> nbinont: vmware-server
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14:33:44 <nbinont> looks neat...I should seriously look into that stuff more (just for personal interest)
15:02:13 <warlord> vmware is really cool. VERY useful.
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15:27:33 <warlord> (I use vmware workstation every day in my day-job)
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18:04:10 <tim_abell> chris, i take it you are Christian Stimming?
18:04:43 <tim_abell> (before I start talking to the wrong person)
18:05:33 <ifoo> Hm, any of the GNUcash devs in the states?
18:05:48 <jsled> ifoo: about half.
18:06:06 <jsled> tim_abell: your irc client should let you get some info about nicks; 'chris' is chris shoemaker.
18:06:14 <jsled> christian stimming goes by cstim.
18:06:25 <tim_abell> oh. :)
18:06:39 <jsled> Oh, xchat.
18:06:47 <tim_abell> is that bad?
18:06:55 <jsled> Just right click on a nick and use the first menu item
18:07:00 <jsled> No, xchat is great; I use it.
18:07:10 <tim_abell> oh, yeah, that's cool. thanks for that :)
18:07:52 <ifoo> jsled: Hm, would gnucash like to make a presence at the Southern California Linux Expo? Possibly a booth?
18:07:53 <jsled> I'd like to switch to erc (an emacs irc client), but apparently you can't use the same server on the same host, which doesn't breaks my workflow with dircproxy.
18:08:21 <jsled> "It"d like to, I'm sure. But none of the devs are in SoCal...
18:08:25 <jsled> Though ... when is it?
18:08:37 <jsled> A couple of us travel out to CA regularly, and it might line up.
18:08:55 <jsled> the core US devs are on the east coast.
18:09:08 <ifoo> jsled: ahh, I see
18:09:22 <ifoo> It's Feb 8-10th
18:09:39 <ifoo> In Los Angeles, near LAX (very close, within 2 miles
18:09:54 <jsled> Oooh. At the Westin. Very nice.
18:09:57 <jsled> :)
18:10:28 <ifoo> What?! How do you know about that? :P
18:11:00 <jsled> <http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/> tells me.
18:11:13 <ifoo> jsled: You got it :)
18:11:41 <ifoo> jsled: Anywho, yeah. I'm sure they'd love to have you. One of the speakers mentioned gnucash 2 years ago... one of the moves that got me to start using it. Good stuff :)
18:13:38 <jsled> ah, potatoes are almost over-done, gotta go!
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18:17:48 <ifoo> jsled: see ya!
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