2007-10-12 GnuCash IRC logs
00:03:34 <warlord> anyways, bedtime for me.
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00:10:30 <dbr> @tell warlord ofx specifies that the client generate the ClientID (sample code is uuid-style), but then sidesteps how customers get a client-generated uuid associated with their userid at the bank
00:10:30 <gncbot> dbr: The operation succeeded.
00:12:33 <dbr> @tell warlord M
00:12:33 <gncbot> dbr: The operation succeeded.
00:13:48 <dbr> @tell warlord MS specifically says that Money will not display the ClientID in the Money interface or logs -- means MS has an unspecified way to register the ClientID with the bank server. Grr
00:13:48 <gncbot> dbr: The operation succeeded.
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09:11:52 <warlord> .
09:11:52 <gncbot> warlord: Sent 9 hours and 1 minute ago: <dbr> ofx specifies that the client generate the ClientID (sample code is uuid-style), but then sidesteps how customers get a client-generated uuid associated with their userid at the bank
09:11:53 <gncbot> warlord: Sent 8 hours and 59 minutes ago: <dbr> M
09:11:54 <gncbot> warlord: Sent 8 hours and 58 minutes ago: <dbr> MS specifically says that Money will not display the ClientID in the Money interface or logs -- means MS has an unspecified way to register the ClientID with the bank server. Grr
10:28:44 <warlord> @tell dbr very interesting.... And quite unfortunate.
10:28:44 <gncbot> warlord: The operation succeeded.
10:33:43 <chris> @tell dbr would wireshark help?
10:33:43 <gncbot> chris: The operation succeeded.
10:36:39 <warlord> chris: unlikely; it's via TLS
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10:37:18 <warlord> Now, if you had a modified TLS library that let you peek into the stream.....
10:38:09 <bighornram> greetings, does anyone have any information to troubleshoot ofx setup issues? Is there a log generated that would indicate error responses from the server?
10:38:33 <warlord> bighornram: weren't you asking about this yesterday?
10:38:46 <bighornram> sure was
10:39:47 <bighornram> still researching.
10:39:56 <warlord> So why do you think our answers are going to be any different today than they were yesterday?
10:41:50 <bighornram> i am thinking there are solutions to the questions. if this is from a ofx server update it would effect more than one bank. without having knowledge of exactly what is happening one can't forumulate a conclusion as to the actual issue or a solution to the issue.
10:42:25 <bighornram> all i heard here yesterday was that they might be blocking non quicken clients.
10:42:35 <bighornram> so am i the only one having this issue?
10:42:51 <bighornram> or the only one using ofx with gnucash?
10:42:54 <bighornram> i doubt it
10:44:37 <chris> certainly not.
10:45:26 <warlord> I pointed you to a list of users complaining specifically about your bank.
10:45:36 <warlord> The moneydance issues are the same as ours.
10:45:45 <bighornram> and i told you i was the one who made that post.
10:45:55 <warlord> Yes, but did you listen to the follow ups?
10:46:02 <bighornram> there is no solution there.
10:46:05 <warlord> EXACTLY!
10:46:28 <bighornram> so EXACTLY am I the only one having this issue?
10:46:43 <warlord> apparently not according to that forum post
10:47:45 <bighornram> I'm not here asking for someone to fix this for me, only where to find tools to solve this issue nor am I here to be in an arguement with anyone.
10:48:40 <warlord> Then you might try asking on either the libofx list or the AqBanking list.
10:48:56 <bighornram> thankyou.
10:49:08 <warlord> We just use their code.
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12:07:52 <dbr> .
12:07:52 <gncbot> dbr: Sent 1 hour and 39 minutes ago: <warlord> very interesting.... And quite unfortunate.
12:07:53 <gncbot> dbr: Sent 1 hour and 34 minutes ago: <chris> would wireshark help?
12:08:22 <warlord> dbr: my response to chris was that wireshark probably wouldn't help because the communication is protected by SSL
12:09:24 <dbr> warlord: thanks. I agree. But I'm pretty sure I could make some progress with gnucash by setting gwenhywfar logging on
12:09:32 <warlord> okay...
12:09:40 <warlord> you might want to contact bighornram
12:10:31 <dbr> hmm. two-way debugging with bank access. hope the bank isn't paranoid and watching logs
12:10:48 <dbr> I wouldn't feel so bad about debugging on my own accounts
12:11:16 <warlord> heheheh
12:11:35 <dbr> I think the quicken logs will still help, too, since the new profile info from the branding server should at least declare what new ofx tags they are requiring
12:12:04 <dbr> even if they don't show <clientuid> in the transaction log
12:12:55 <warlord> Grr... Damn closed open standards.
12:13:08 <dbr> yessiree
12:13:10 <warlord> Sometimes I think the germans really do have it right.
12:13:18 <warlord> we should lobby congress to require HBCI
12:13:38 <dbr> for banking from the customer end, I'm sure the Europeans are a generation ahead of the U.S.
12:13:46 <warlord> or two
12:13:55 <warlord> Well, the germans. Not sure about the rest of them
12:14:05 <dbr> I was thinking people generations (20 years)
12:15:01 <dbr> The Germans are better at the data end, but even the Brits have had automatic bill payment much better than us for at least a decade
12:17:15 <warlord> Ah
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18:14:48 <andi5> hi _lasindi
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18:20:00 <andi5> _lasindi: i am preparing for applying your work now, if you do not mind :-D it would be cool if you could check later on that i did not mess everything up :-)
18:20:02 <andi5> hi warlord
18:20:44 <warlord> hiya andi5
18:37:42 <andi5> arrgh... i guess i will need to at least try compiling it on windows ;-)
18:39:48 <andi5> _lasindi: i also wonder whether the example file would better fit into doc/examples
18:41:37 <andi5> impressing
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20:05:04 <andi5> lasindi_: ping
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