2007-10-07 GnuCash IRC logs

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07:39:35 <basanta> is there any way to import tally data to gnucash?
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09:28:08 <decoder> ello
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09:29:11 <decoder> i just tried out gnucash 2.0.5... seems really overly complicated for a non-financial-expert... and I scheduled some income and it doesnt even show up in the predicted assets
09:29:15 <decoder> is 2.2 better there?
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09:32:13 <warlord> decoder: have you tried reading the docs? the docs are REALLY good.
09:32:47 <warlord> And yes, "Scheduled Transactions" aren't "real transactions", so they don't show up in the register or in reports until they get realized.
09:33:03 <warlord> (and yes, it would be "nice" if reports could take unrealized future SXes into account)
09:33:12 <decoder> aha ok... but thats really bad if one wants to do a forecast
09:33:53 <decoder> and about the docs, I generally read docs but for this simple task I didnt want to dig into tons of docs to find out how it works, I wanted something more intuitive.. but I'll try out some other software and evaluate whats the best
09:33:55 <decoder> thanks :)
09:34:35 <warlord> Go for it. But I bet you come back to gnucash. :-D
09:34:44 <Jaran> :D
09:34:52 <decoder> well there isnt much alternative (free) under linux
09:34:52 <warlord> If you want to do forecasting, you can set up SXes to post up to 180 days early.
09:34:55 <decoder> im trying kmymoney2 now
09:35:04 <decoder> ah ok
09:36:30 <warlord> (as I said, it would be nice if reports understood SXes for forecasting.. Recent changes in 2.2 make that easier, but there's still a bunch of open questions for how to deal with SXes with variables)
09:38:55 * Simon just duplicates transactions every so often
09:38:59 <decoder> ah well yea for non-fixed SXes this would be complicated
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09:54:19 <warlord> right.
09:55:01 <warlord> Honestly I'd rather see a "balance-as-of(account,date)" SX function first, so you can do proper pre-payment calculations of loans.
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13:24:17 <rivad> I have just installed a new Mandriva 2008 release. I trying to see how to import/use the registry from my prior gnucash installation to the new gnucash installation. this is gnucash 2.2.1.
13:31:19 <jsled> rivad: unless you're moving your home directory around or something, you don't need to do anything.
13:31:56 <rivad> I think I've figured it out. I got rid of my prior home directory, but kept the registry directory.
13:32:45 <jsled> Ah. Then you'd want ~/.gnucash/ and ~/.gconf/apps/gnucash/
13:41:24 <rivad> Yep, got them
13:41:29 <rivad> I'm all set now, thanks.
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17:44:42 <chris> /wi6
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19:25:27 <Plouj> hi
19:25:41 <Plouj> do I have to initiate a liability (financing) account with how much I'm financing?
19:26:03 <Plouj> it looks like if I transfer money from my checking to financing, the financing balance just goes into negatives (starting at 0)
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19:28:44 <warlord> Plouj: Depends on the liability, but generally you PULL from a liability, and then push back into it (as you pay it down)
19:29:11 <Plouj> alright
19:30:48 <andi5> warlord: is there any difference between liability and credit card accounts?
19:31:04 <warlord> andi5: Umm.. the labels?
19:31:07 <andi5> k
19:31:23 <warlord> (and 'cc' allows automatic interest/payment when you reconcile)
19:31:32 <andi5> ah, right
19:36:30 <Plouj> so, should I create an initial transaction that sets some positive non-zero value for a liability?
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19:49:06 <warlord> Well, is there a balance on the liability?
19:58:55 <Plouj> what do you mean?
19:59:13 <Plouj> all I know is the amount that I'm financing my car for and my monthly payments
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22:41:50 <Plouj> I can't set an opening balance after I've created an account?
22:47:40 <warlord> sure you can, justcreate a txn to Equity:Opening Balance
22:48:15 <Plouj> heh, ok
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23:22:58 <Mythmon> is there a way to do things with gnu cash from the command line? like i would like to write a script that would make a simple transaction, so i dont have to load up the entire app everytime i want to record something. is something like that possible?
23:26:39 <Mythmon> im running windows, btw, but im not averse to something like python, or if need be, perl
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23:51:21 <warlord> Mythmon: unfortunately no
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23:51:31 <Mythmon> :(
23:51:36 <Mythmon> thanks anyways
23:52:01 <warlord> There is an open RFE for batch-processing..
23:52:07 <warlord> been there for a long time.
23:53:20 <Mythmon> i did a quick google search before i asked this, and it came up with a post asking the same thing. from 2001
23:53:34 <Mythmon> so yes, i imagine its been a long time
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