2007-09-13 GnuCash IRC logs
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00:06:53 <Alistair> Hi all I did a demo video for shifting files over from Quicken to GNUcash but unfortunately got to do it again as I neglected to hide the account numbers!
00:07:19 <Alistair> Also, had a slight problem with audio sync on video, otherwise it was not too bad.
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00:14:39 <felle> Alistair: How long and how big?
00:15:13 <Alistair> Its about 25Mb I dont mind hosting it for a while. Will try to do another version of it tonight
00:15:33 <Alistair> In divx
00:15:55 <felle> URL?
00:16:26 <Alistair> No url - I am not putting up a file that has my bank account details see above. Will fix it and then url will be available.
00:17:29 <felle> fine
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00:46:47 <felle> for me it's time for bed. goood night.
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03:14:11 <oskarik> hello, can I ask about some gnucash problems here?
03:18:47 <oskarik> I guess not at the moment... Bye
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03:19:12 <BadQuanta> Heya.. anyone up?
03:19:22 <oskarik> hello, can I ask about some gnucash problems here?
03:19:58 <BadQuanta> Probably. I am new to Gnucash too.
03:20:19 <BadQuanta> If its a simple question maybe I can help?
03:23:47 <oskarik> Hello. Well, the first problem was with a new install on suse 10.2. I couldn't get any "help" or "tutorial" so I downloaded the source and tried building my own. The "./configure" fails with messages saying it can't find libgoffice. Specifically, libgoffice-0.4, .3 and 1. I have libgoffice.so.2.0.1. I haven't been able to find how I get the ones that the gnucash build wants. Any clue?
03:25:11 <BadQuanta> Actually I've had tons of problems compiling Gnucash myself.
03:25:22 <BadQuanta> But I never really resolved any of them.
03:25:40 <BadQuanta> I used to use Slackware and it was simply a pain to install GNUCash so I didn't use it.
03:25:46 <BadQuanta> I used spreadsheets instead.
03:25:57 <BadQuanta> Mostly I had problems with g-wrap myself..
03:26:16 <BadQuanta> Now I use Debian and as long as you stick the the Stable Package sources it works great.
03:27:01 <BadQuanta> Although GNU Cash is the first thing to break if I move up to the bleeding edge versions of gnome/gtk anything.
03:27:25 <BadQuanta> Sorry.. I couldn't offer much help :(
03:27:33 <BadQuanta> Though I'm sure someone here can eventualy.
03:28:47 <BadQuanta> I just really have a interface wish.. and was wondering if it was in the works.
03:29:16 <oskarik> Hei, thanks anyway. I have never used gnucash before so I really need to get the tutorial stuff going. Like you, I have been using spreadsheets but it's taking more and more time so I'd like to automate things a bit more.
03:29:54 <BadQuanta> I really want to write my own accounting app.. because i use accounting software weirdly.
03:30:17 <BadQuanta> Well.. not accounting really.. just budgeting.
03:30:21 <BadQuanta> 'cause thats all I really do.
03:30:22 <oskarik> Weirdly?
03:31:07 <BadQuanta> I don't *really* care about accounting.. just budgeting... I put in all my transactions in at the begining of the month.. I have like 30 sub-accounts under my checking account for partitioning my money.
03:31:34 <BadQuanta> And I just use Gnu-Cash to make sure I stick within our budget.
03:32:01 <BadQuanta> Its really simple :) But spreadsheets require so much fidgiting with to get them to work ever month.
03:32:33 <BadQuanta> I'm about to submit a feature request which would pretty much make gnucash perfect for me.
03:32:36 <oskarik> Ah, ok. I have a small bookbinding buisness and I've just opened a shop unrelated to it. It's the shop that's causing all the extra effort.
03:33:05 <BadQuanta> ^_^ Yeah.. actually I run a small business *kinda* off of Gnucash too.
03:33:22 <BadQuanta> But its just a side job for extra income.
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03:34:37 <BadQuanta> Have you been using Gnucash for it before or are you now trying to test it out?
03:35:01 <oskarik> Never used gnucash before.
03:35:04 <BadQuanta> ah.
03:35:44 <BadQuanta> I don't know about you but I use a different distro on my home-office pc than I do on my personal pcs for the very reason you are having problems with gnucash.
03:36:17 <BadQuanta> On my office PCs they run the most boring installations of debian... but thats becasue it just works..
03:36:53 <oskarik> Is it suse do you think? Their pre-novel releases were great and I have used them for nearly 10 years but I have seen bad comments recently abouyt them.
03:38:06 <BadQuanta> Well I haven't had alot of experience with them. I usually don't like Packaged based systems.. RPM or YUM systems seem to get on my nerve alot becasue they seem to require almost as much babysitting installing packages as a tar-ball based distro.
03:38:21 <BadQuanta> but thats just my opinion..
03:38:41 <BadQuanta> and the avaiable software for debian and ease to search/install/uninstall is really awsome.
03:39:27 <BadQuanta> But I dunno.. I know SuSE is really easy to bind to existing office networks... or it seemed to be at least when I've tried it.
03:39:49 <BadQuanta> It seemed to me like it was beging to join a Windows LDAP domain. ;)
03:39:50 <oskarik> Ok, thanks for that. Maybe I should look at them a bit more. Many thanks for your time - duty calls. Cheers
03:39:57 <BadQuanta> np
03:40:03 <BadQuanta> sry. ( I rant alot)
03:40:42 <oskarik> hey, no problem with that. I have been a rabid anti-win bloke for many many years.
03:40:55 <BadQuanta> ^_^ Good to hear.
03:41:15 <BadQuanta> Although thats how I make alot of my money.. fixing windows PCs.. I'd starve otherwise.
03:41:17 <oskarik> :-)
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04:12:03 <larz3> ugh...discover card doesn't have a qfx/ofx statement download for import into gnucash. only excel and csv....annoying
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09:19:40 <warlord> jsled: good question :)
09:23:04 <jsled> I had to axe whole paragraphs...
09:23:36 <jsled> "But, in light of your complete inability to use your eyes,^U
09:24:05 <jsled> "However, these steps might be too much; you may be retarded.^U
09:25:31 <warlord> LOL.
09:25:51 <warlord> "Even a caveman could do it (TM)"
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09:33:56 <chris> Our user-pool might need some chlorine.
09:35:19 <jsled> heh heh
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09:40:30 <jsled> Hmm. /me should make a Compose entry for ☺
09:40:48 <jsled> Though in this font it's not as readable as :)
09:47:56 <warlord> :)
09:48:23 <warlord> jsled: do you have time to deal with the htdocs pot?
09:48:45 <jsled> Not at the moment, but maybe later.
09:55:29 <warlord> k
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10:33:09 <jpeach> How do you create a credit memo for a customer?
10:35:28 <warlord> jpeach: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=350199
10:36:06 <warlord> You know, I think I should consider upgrading the server from FC4 to FC7 sometime soon.
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11:07:42 <jpeach> warlord: Thanks. It is really surprising that a credit memo feature is missing. It seems like a very fundamental feature and would be easy to implement.
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12:13:13 <warlord> @tell jpeach well, i never needed it for my consulting company, so I never implemented it. Patches are always welcome, of course.
12:13:13 <gncbot> warlord: The operation succeeded.
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12:55:04 <pdc> any way to restore gnucash 1.6 / 1.8 datafile? it fails to open with 2.0 gnucash. GC detects "unknown" encoding and shows convert dialog, but then fails to parse the file
12:59:11 <jsled> Hmm. If you manually fix the coding issue and add the encoding attribute, it should skip that step
12:59:23 <jsled> But, that dialog should work, too... :/
13:00:09 <pdc> i'm afraid problem is not only with encoding
13:01:02 <warlord> pdc: well, the what IS the problem?
13:01:17 <pdc> gnucash just freezes after open attempt of old 1.8 datafile
13:01:25 <pdc> this is the problem
13:01:52 <jsled> pdc: <http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/FAQ#Q:_Something_bad_happened.3B_how_can_I_help_debug.3F> ... is anything printed to the terminal?
13:02:10 <jsled> Can you attach to the process with GDB while it's frozen, interrupt it, and figure out where it's working?
13:04:28 <pdc> i run gnucash with --extra --debug, is that good?
13:05:02 <jsled> Well, it'll produce a lot of output. :)
13:05:26 <jsled> I'd reproduce without --debug and see if anything interesting is printed; if not, maybe the verbosity of --debug is warranted.
13:05:32 <warlord> a stacktrace from gdb while it's apparently hung would be more usefull, I think.
13:05:40 <jsled> yeah, likely.
13:05:55 <jsled> Also, you probably don't want "--extra", ever.
13:06:11 <jsled> Unless you're actively developing something that you've made conditional on --extra.
13:06:19 <pdc> so gnucash w/o options will help more first
13:10:32 <pdc> * 20:10:15 WARN <gnc.scrub> [xaccTransScrubCurrency()] split="" account="olga" commodity="UAH"
13:10:32 <pdc> * 20:10:16 CRIT <gnc.engine> xaccSplitSetAmount: assertion `gnc_numeric_check(amt) == GNC_ERROR_OK' failed
13:10:32 <pdc> * 20:10:16 CRIT <gnc.engine> xaccSplitSetAmount: assertion `gnc_numeric_check(amt) == GNC_ERROR_OK' failed
13:10:44 <pdc> these are last messages at the trace log
13:11:18 <jsled> Are there like thousands of them?
13:11:33 <pdc> and GC shows the dialog "There was an error parsing the file"
13:11:46 <jsled> Oh. So, it didn't hang, this time?
13:11:57 <pdc> yes, didnt
13:12:15 <pdc> * 20:09:58 CRIT <gnc.backend.file> dom_tree_to_commodity_ref: assertion `ret != NULL' failed
13:12:15 <pdc> - it was the first CRIT message
13:12:37 <jsled> I think it's those assertion failures that are the more likely culprit.
13:12:40 <pdc> and 487 WARN messages
13:12:49 <jsled> Oh ... for the scrubs?
13:12:59 <pdc> yes
13:13:23 <pdc> * 20:10:07 WARN <gnc.scrub> [xaccTransScrubCurrency()] split="" account="Cash in Wallet" commodity="UAH"
13:13:23 <pdc> * 20:10:07 WARN <gnc.scrub> [xaccTransFindOldCommonCurrency()] unable to find a common currency in txn 50db96ed418f24949d39176757864d12, and that is strange.
13:13:23 <pdc> * 20:10:07 WARN <gnc.scrub> [xaccTransScrubCurrency()] no common transaction currency found for trans="virazh: maslofiltr JC C138?" (50db96ed418f24949d39176757864d12)
13:13:23 <pdc> * 20:10:07 WARN <gnc.scrub> [xaccTransScrubCurrency()] split="" account="maslo" commodity="UAH"
13:14:25 <pdc> old 1.8 gnucash also shows "unable to find a common currency" sometimes, but seems worked ok
13:16:25 <pdc> now i tried to load 1.20061002033348.xac backup file. renamed to .gz, gunzipped and gave 1.20061002033348 to gnucash
13:17:06 <pdc> gnucash seems to hang while loading gzipped (original) .xac or (gzipped) account datafile
13:17:19 <warlord> Those common-currency issues shouldn't cause a hang.
13:17:34 <warlord> (although you SHOULD fix them -- maybe you used the Log Replay functions?)
13:17:41 <pdc> but how to trace "There was an error parsing the file"?
13:17:54 <warlord> Where does it say that?
13:18:08 <pdc> i think i used log replay funcion few times on that datafile
13:18:38 <warlord> Yeah, back in 1.6 and 1.8 that was prone to create txns w/o a common currency. Check & Repair in 2.0 and above will fix that.
13:18:44 <pdc> at the end. after i try to load 1.20061002033348 file. it shows WARNs, then 2 CRITs and that "parse error" dialog finall
13:19:06 <pdc> finally
13:20:27 <warlord> and what's printed on the terminal
13:20:28 <warlord> ?
13:20:38 <warlord> and what's at the end of the trace file?
13:21:14 <pdc> nothing.. these are all messages from gnucash to terminal:
13:21:20 <pdc> . [pdccash@kobyla 20:08:35] /home/pdc/fin 126> gnucash
13:21:20 <pdc> gnc.bin-Message: main: binreloc relocation support was disabled at configure time.
13:21:20 <pdc> Found Finance::Quote version 1.13
13:21:45 <pdc> all WARNs and CRITs are in the trace log
13:23:01 <pdc> i've removed "encoding" problem by editing datafile manully, replacing &XXX; symbols info A-Z
13:23:27 <warlord> Have you remove all non-UTF8 characters?
13:23:29 <warlord> removed
13:23:32 <warlord> (I can't type)
13:23:45 <pdc> there where no utf-8 chars
13:25:58 <warlord> Are there NON-UTF8 chars?
13:26:24 <warlord> (there will definitely be "utf8" characters if you have ascii ;)
13:29:18 <pdc> hd 1.20061002033348 | cut -d'|' -f1 | g ' [89abcdef]. ' would show any non-ascii-7 chars, right?
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13:29:39 <pdc> none found..
13:30:37 <pdc> g = alias for grep command
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13:36:25 <warlord> pdc: um... why would you thinhk that regex would show non-ascii-7 chars?
13:37:04 <jsled> what'd `hd`?
13:37:10 <pdc> hd produces "canonical hex-ascii dump" like:
13:37:12 <pdc> 00000000 3c 3f 78 6d 6c 20 76 65 72 73 69 6f 6e 3d 22 31 |<?xml version="1|
13:37:12 <pdc> 00000010 2e 30 22 3f 3e 0a 3c 67 6e 63 2d 76 32 3e 0a 3c |.0"?>.<gnc-v2>.<|
13:37:48 <pdc> ' [89abcdef]. ' filters high-ascii chars (hex codes 80-ff)
13:38:55 <warlord> ah, i see.
13:42:22 <pdc> so problem is not in non-ascii-7 chars..
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13:54:45 <warlord> what version of gnucash, exactly, are you using?
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13:55:31 <JoelS> Hey folks, trying to install using darwin ports, but its failing to grab dependency Crypt-SSLeay-0.53.tar.gz .... anyone seen this before?
13:56:40 <warlord> nope, but I haven't tried recently.
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13:57:00 <JoelS> any idea how to properly grab that?
13:58:36 <warlord> "sudo port self-update"; "sudo port install gnucash"?
13:59:45 <JoelS> HEh, joke? self-update unrecognized?
14:00:26 <warlord> sorry.. "selfupdate"
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14:01:53 <JoelS> Thanks, running...
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14:03:33 <pdc> gnucash-2.2.0
14:12:04 <warlord> well, 2.2.1 has been released..
14:12:42 <warlord> But I dont know why it would be complaining about a parsing error without printing out more information
14:12:55 <warlord> Could you pastebin.ca your trace file?
14:13:13 <pdc> i can put on web gzipped log
14:14:09 <warlord> How big is the log?
14:14:32 <warlord> Maybe you could pastebin the last 50 lines or so?
14:15:10 <pdc> http://kobyla.ru/.tmp/gnucash.trace.pdc.070913.txt.gz - 7 kb in gzip
14:16:21 <warlord> pdc: if I wanted a gzipped copy I would have said "ok" instead of continued pressing for pastebin.
14:16:33 <pdc> pasting already :)
14:16:53 <warlord> Besides, the URL gives me 401
14:17:02 <pdc> http://pastebin.ca/696083
14:17:58 <warlord> That's the end of it?
14:18:02 <warlord> I wonder what this is from:
14:18:03 <pdc> yes
14:18:05 <warlord> #
14:18:05 <warlord> * 20:10:16 CRIT <gnc.engine> xaccSplitSetAmount: assertion `gnc_numeric_check(amt) == GNC_ERROR_OK' failed
14:18:05 <warlord> #
14:18:05 <warlord> * 20:10:16 CRIT <gnc.engine> xaccSplitSetAmount: assertion `gnc_numeric_check(amt) == GNC_ERROR_OK' failed
14:18:16 <warlord> Those seem to imply invalid "numbers" in your file.
14:18:27 <pdc> no way to get gnucash put more details into trace?
14:24:14 <warlord> UTSL?
14:25:11 <pdc> i mean "standard" way :)
14:26:08 <pdc> like increasing debug level or something like this
14:26:53 <JoelS> warlord: sigh, now gnome-desktop failed to build.... @sigh
14:28:03 <pdc> http://pastebin.ca/696096 - last lines of trace with --extra --debug parameters. there are few lines after CRIT tho
14:28:05 <warlord> pdc: yes, see the source.
14:28:45 <warlord> pdc: this is a trace after you shutdown?
14:29:08 <pdc> yes. killed gnucash and restart it with --extra --debug
14:29:21 <pdc> and tried to open that file again
14:29:37 <warlord> Okay, and when during the process did you grab the tracefile? What had you just done?
14:30:28 <pdc> not looked at source yet, just restarted with --extra --debug and got a new gnucash.trace file
14:34:27 <warlord> pdc: let me ask this more clearly.. When you grabbed the trace file and uploaded it to me, had you exited/killed gnucash or was it still running?
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14:34:48 <pdc> still running
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14:35:02 <pdc> displaying dialog "There was an error parsing the file." now
14:35:40 <pdc> after this it shows "There was an error parsing the file /home/pdc/fin/1.20061002033348." and few more lines into trace:
14:35:55 <pdc> * 21:35:08 INFO <qof.engine> [qof_event_generate_internal] id=3 hi=0x86f23c0 han=0x48163c90 data=0x0
14:35:56 <pdc> * 21:35:08 INFO <qof.engine> [qof_event_generate_internal] id=2 hi=0x84698b0 han=0x482e5538 data=0x0
14:35:56 <pdc> * 21:35:08 INFO <qof.engine> [qof_event_generate_internal] id=1 hi=0x81d5300 han=0x482661f0 data=0x0
14:35:56 <pdc> * 21:35:08 INFO <gnc.account> [xaccAccountCommitEdit] freeing splits for account 0x9189cf8 (43ca9551fa4e91c3f75c2ab1fe746f61)
14:35:56 <pdc> * 21:35:08 INFO <gnc.engine> [trans_cleanup_commit] get rid of rollback trans=0x0
14:35:57 <pdc> * 21:35:08 INFO <gnc.account> [xaccAccountCommitEdit] freeing splits for account 0x8152108 ()
14:36:11 <warlord> please use pastebin
14:36:30 <pdc> for more than 2 lines? ok
14:36:36 <warlord> yes, please
14:36:58 <warlord> so that's the exact error message? There's no filename in it?
14:37:49 <pdc> there were 2 dialogs. one had no filename, another (after pressing OK in first) shows the same text, but with filename
14:38:10 <warlord> ./src/gnome-utils/gnc-file.c: fmt = _("There was an error parsing the file %s.");
14:38:10 <warlord> ./src/gnome-utils/druid-gnc-xml-import.c: message = _("There was an error parsing the file.");
14:38:24 <warlord> so, the first error is from the second file, so look there and see what's up.
14:38:53 <warlord> I'm afraid right now I doubt there's instrumentation to detect your particular file corruption issue.
14:40:27 <pdc> http://pastebin.ca/696117 - full description of dialogs/messages from last run
14:45:25 <warlord> jsled: what's the default GNC_MOD_IO loglevel setting?
14:45:37 <warlord> (and how does one increase it to log more?)
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14:48:13 <jsled> The log prefix of relevance is 'gnc.backend.file' (as per src/backend/file/Makefile.am)
14:48:39 <jsled> I think – without --debug – the default for 'gnc' is 'message'...
14:49:01 <jsled> Sorry.
14:50:00 <jsled> It looks like the default for '' is warn, and for 'gnc' is WARN.
14:50:15 <jsled> with --debug, these drop to INFO
14:50:52 <jsled> With --log, one can say "--log gnc.backend.file=debug"
14:53:15 <pdc> * 21:53:00 DEBUG <gnc.backend.file.sixtp> Finished with end of <split:account>
14:53:16 <pdc> running with alot of * 21:53:00 DEBUG <gnc.backend.file.sixtp> Finished with end of <split:account>
14:53:37 <pdc> hope this trace will be helpful :)
14:55:04 <pdc> finished. 179788 lines of trace
15:02:40 <pdc> repeating with gnucash --log gnc.backend=debug --log gnc.engine=debug
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15:08:50 <pdc> http://pastebin.ca/696162 gnc.engine debug log with CRIT messages
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15:31:40 <warlord> dont need the engine logs.. just the logs from the backend.
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15:52:26 <pdc> backend show no interesting info imho
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16:06:29 <warlord> pdc: then time to use gdb
16:07:45 <pdc> yes.. seems so. but having no idea where to hook except first error dialog handling
16:08:33 <warlord> You can search the code as easily as I can. I pointed you to the right file.
16:13:53 <pdc> than file only shows error dialog. most of processing done at backend/file/gnc-backend-file.c imho
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16:27:00 <warlord> pdc: yes...... but you can track it back.
16:27:12 <warlord> Just step back one function and then you can single-step through the parsing.
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16:51:36 <Alistair> Good morning I have done an instructional GNUcash import Quicken video (directx/mpeg=avi). Currently there is a precursor uploaded: www.alistairgeorge.com/files/gnucash_importquickenpreview.avi the full upload will take most of the day @ 128kbs its a 47Mb file its url will be www.alistairgeorge.com/files/gnucash_importquicken.avi
16:52:07 * pdc sleep time..
16:53:05 <jsled> Alistair: nifty. Please let us know when the upload's complete.
16:53:13 <jsled> How long is the preview version supposed to be?
16:53:32 <Alistair> Correction the full video will be about an hour to upload. The demo is currently up and ready.
16:54:09 <Alistair> click the preview.avi above.
16:54:32 <jsled> I did. It only lasted for a few seconds. Which is why I asked.
16:54:58 <jsled> (Also, URLs have a protocol component ... you should include the "http://" part... but I'm nit-picky about these things.)
16:55:29 <Alistair> Same here; as you already gathered ;-)
16:57:14 <Alistair> According to my ftp the full version which is a 20 minute video will be up in 49 minutes.
16:57:53 <Alistair> DIVX is quite a nice codec, but if the video is short, it seems you do not save a whole lot.
16:58:23 <jsled> How long is the preview supposed to be?
17:03:03 <Alistair> As short as it was it ends with comments of $37,000 I was rather surprised that the filesize of that was 7Mb and the full 20Min is 47Mb. Will prompt up here when the upload is complete if you like. I will only make it public if the consensus says so. This is the first video I have done, and thought it a good way to get my feet wet because my own software needs such a video too.
17:11:27 <warlord> Alistair: I think jsled is asking how many seconds of video is in the preview?
17:12:47 <Alistair> File properties show 47 seconds.
17:13:07 <jsled> Ah. Hmm. Maybe I should just download it. I've never had luck with the totem media player plugin.
17:13:27 <jsled> Although I did used to have luck with the mplayer plugin ... where'd that go, anyways.
17:17:29 <Alistair> mplayer is excellent as is mencoder what you may be missing is divx codec on your pc?
17:17:55 <jsled> No, I have divx; it started to play fine.
17:18:17 <Alistair> Q..I have done a search (for my wifes wages) and with the results screen is it possible to print as a report or similar?
17:19:02 <warlord> jsled: it got renamed.
17:19:17 <warlord> mplayerplug-in-3.40-1.lvn7
17:19:41 <jsled> warlord: no, I have like 2 versions of it installed ... and like 3 other firefox plugins all configured the handle video...
17:19:48 <jsled> it was just selecting totem's for some reason.
17:19:53 <warlord> oh
17:19:58 <warlord> I removed my totem plugin. ;)
17:20:02 <warlord> (mplayer works better)
17:20:10 <nbinont> the preview ran for 47 secs for me
17:21:49 <Alistair> If using Gimp or whatever there are several good players using the mplayer decoder which IMHO is the best,fastest. Easiest way to find players using mplayer is by google mplayer and also on the mplayer home page are several excellent encoders using mencoder.
17:24:57 <jsled> Ah. mplayer reports "[My Athlon 64-X2 4400+] system is too SLOW to play this!"
17:25:06 <Alistair> So getting back to my question above - cannot find any options to do a search, then print the results for format them - is it not possible?
17:25:26 <warlord> jsled: maybe something else has the CPU tied?
17:25:27 <Alistair> No your Athlon is fine; check the faq I have seen it elsewhere
17:25:32 <jsled> nope.
17:26:20 <Alistair> Maybe I should recode the video to flash
17:27:08 <jsled> Alistair: from the search results do {Reports > Account Report}, then that's printable.
17:28:31 <Alistair> Beauty - thank you.
17:30:41 <Alistair> Desired tab mode - when clicking on open real estate near the tab bring up accounts dropdown as current, when clicking on a tab change to menu including delete tab.
17:31:21 <jsled> "accounts dropdown"?
17:31:56 <jsled> Also, there's an Edit > Preferences item to have a close button on each tab, if you like
17:32:21 <Alistair> Thanks - thats it.
17:34:35 <Alistair> Suggest - option close tabs should be on by default.
17:48:25 <Alistair> http://www.alistairgeorge.com/files/gnucash_importquicken.avi is up now. If moderator decides its ok, feel free to download it and use it on your own site I will eventually remove it from my own.
17:57:34 <Alistair> After doing a Find, is there a method to save the find, or repeat the same find without entering the criteria again (once the find dialog is closed) - there is nothing in docs to say you can. If not, I will put it up as a request tks.
17:59:14 <jsled> Short of keeping the search results tab open ... no, I don't believe there's any way to name/save a search.
17:59:33 <jsled> You could use that {Reports > Account Report} to "translate" it into a report, then Save the report.
17:59:41 <jsled> Which might be sufficient for your purpose.
18:03:32 <Alistair> jsled how did you get on with a decoder?
18:03:40 <jsled> huh?
18:04:03 <Alistair> mplayer or whatever?
18:05:11 <jsled> I have mplayer, yes. It doesn't want to play the thing.
18:05:18 <jsled> Totem actually does seem to play it fine.
18:05:41 <Alistair> Very odd. Mplayer plays everything that I throw at it.
18:05:45 <jsled> Yeah, me too.
18:05:51 <jsled> I'm all about command-line mplayer.
18:05:56 <Alistair> I've got to do a reboot due to a crash here
18:06:05 <jsled> But it didn't want to get going with that.
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18:20:37 <warlord> Alistair: no, there's no way to save a search.. and doing so would be.... challenging.
18:21:11 <warlord> (in particular if you're asking to be able to MODIFY the search later -- it throws away the GUI configuration and it's a one-way mapping into a QofQuery)
18:21:56 <Alistair> OK so be it. BTW has there been any reports on latest version about printing corruptions because I'm getting them on several printers
18:22:17 <warlord> Only on windows.. Like printing being backwards or upside down.
18:22:31 <Alistair> Exactly - cause known?
18:22:39 <warlord> Um, "windoww sucks"?
18:22:50 <Alistair> Crikey, I know that already
18:22:54 <warlord> @op benoitg
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18:23:18 <jsled> no, the cause isn't known.
18:23:36 <jsled> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=462148
18:24:10 <Alistair> Tks - the bug is easily replicated here - I use HP and PDF printer (hardware and file) and both replicate the issue
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18:24:40 <warlord> Alistair: are you capable of debugging it?
18:24:50 <warlord> Honestly, I dont even know where to start looking.
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18:28:35 <Alistair> Unfortunately, it does not throw an error. Seems the reporter of the bug has tried most everything that is logical, I would not be able to improve because I havent worked with C for a few years.
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18:29:31 <Alistair> Programatically, probably the easiest method would be to look at the difference between the print preview (which is fine) and the output module which is corrupting.
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18:32:05 <warlord> I'm pretty sure that that's all external to gnucash.
18:35:50 <warlord> I dont recall if we're using GtkPrint or GnomePrint on win32.
18:39:33 <jsled> I don't think we use GtkPrint anywhere, yet.
18:39:49 <jsled> (except as needed to get more modern gtkhtml working)
18:39:56 <Alistair> Im wrong - the print is not corrupting - it is an inversion therefore the method to fix is consistent. If it were corrupting, then the job would be more difficult to fix.
18:39:57 <jsled> But I haven't looked at it at all.
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18:45:02 <Alistair> Can someone ask the moderator if the tutorial is of any use - if not, I will file it under trash. Thanks. Al.
18:46:36 <Alistair> Bi 4 now
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18:53:24 <warlord> "the moderator"?
18:58:37 <jsled> The Moderator. Coming this fall, to Fox.
18:58:47 <nbinont> lol
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19:43:02 <warlord> hahahahahaha
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20:34:34 <nbinont> And the windows nightlies are up: http://cyberbird.yi.org
20:35:31 <nbinont> slow connection though :(
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21:42:08 <warlord> nbinont: what did you use to setup the nightly build?
21:42:30 <warlord> (I'm wondering if next year, once I get a VMware server, if we could migrate your environment)
21:44:30 <nbinont> it's actually a shell script that calls the install.sh ..nothing fancy
21:44:49 <nbinont> I can send you a copy
21:45:49 <warlord> How do you automate that? Is there a 'cron"?
21:46:30 <nbinont> yes, though it's the windows equivalent "scheduled tasks"
21:47:52 <warlord> Is it a clean build every night?
21:48:17 <nbinont> ah, and there's the catch - no
21:48:20 <warlord> And how do you automate things like "install openssl" that require user interface.
21:48:35 <warlord> ah
21:48:52 <warlord> So if the deps change you need to manually fix the build system?
21:49:09 <nbinont> I could create a modified version of reset.sh to get a very-close-to-clean build
21:49:47 <nbinont> I think the only things I need to leave in is wget, msys, mingw, svn, and html help
21:49:56 <nbinont> everything else I can clean out and bring in again
21:51:05 <nbinont> there...latest build and buildlog (all automatically generated) at http://cyberbird.yi.org/gnucash/
21:52:13 <nbinont> I'm going to set it for a 6 hour build cycle for now (my script checks to see if the revision has already been built and won't try to re-build it)
21:52:50 <warlord> I dont think you need 6 hours. 24 hours would be fine.
21:53:02 <warlord> so how would your reset.sh script handle things like ssl etc?
21:53:20 <warlord> (which would ask the user for install instructions)
21:57:56 <nbinont> andi5 has done some really nice work to get rid of most of the promps - most of the install is silent now (including openssl)
22:01:20 <warlord> Wow. Cool.
22:01:29 <warlord> Shows you how long it's been since I've used it ;)
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22:15:03 <nbinont> ok...silly question: how do you become warlord-afk? I'm trying to become nbinont-afk :S
22:15:21 <warlord> type: /nick nbinont-afk
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22:15:38 <nbinont-afk> :D
22:15:44 <warlord> good night
22:15:57 <nbinont-afk> mystery answered! Thanks
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