2007-09-12 GnuCash IRC logs
00:00:31 <Alistair> OK, but we are dealing with many users who come over from QW whereby they are used to Ctrl-N being new transaction.
00:00:50 <jsled> QW? Quicken for Windows?
00:00:53 <Alistair> I am not saying use it for new transaction, just modify file new
00:00:57 <Alistair> yes
00:01:25 <jsled> Right. I think Ctrl-N is fine as is.
00:01:52 <Alistair> OK
00:02:19 <jsled> you're welcome to file it as an RFE, or submit a patch, or whatever.
00:02:41 <Alistair> QW new file is actioned by File, New.... (mouse driven events)
00:02:53 <jsled> Good for them. I don't really care what Quicken does.
00:03:03 <Alistair> Sure.
00:04:09 <jsled> anyways, no I really am to bed. You're welcome to put stuff in the channel here, and we'll see it tomorrow. Or gnucash-devel or bugzilla or whatever. Cheers.
00:04:53 <Alistair> Gnite.
00:09:15 <donfede> you folks make a wonderful program. thanks :-D
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00:26:22 <Alistair> When you have imported QIF files from Quicken, and several transactions have gone into wrong accounts is there any method to move those transactions to the correct (out of balance) accounts?
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00:40:58 <felle> Alistair: Yes, open your unbalanced-nzd account or your general ledger, click on the account cell and choose the right one.
00:44:45 <Alistair> In Win GUI is that the little box next to the account?
00:51:02 <Alistair> Wished I'd found GNUcash much earlier - superior than QW in many ways.
01:01:06 <felle> http://mataram.de/downloads/gnucash/imbalanced.png
01:03:31 <felle> I do not use Windows, I hope, it is similar
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01:15:41 <Alistair> It is most likely what you said thanks. I have not used it yet but there is a list when clicked which I'm sure will do the job. BTW would you think Ctrl-G go to a date would be useful within the current register?
01:20:39 <felle> Good question, I don't know. But you can also use view->filter by ...
02:00:02 <felle> Gnite
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03:04:12 <Berto> Hi - What's the best way to get gnucash 2.2.x on Ubuntu? Are there any pre-made binaries in someone's repositories?
03:04:19 <Berto> Or should I tarball it?
03:04:26 <Berto> Just started my own business and want to try gnucash
03:26:45 <Berto> cool, the docs make me a deb. awesome!
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05:20:44 <larz3> i'm having trouble compiling 2.2.1 on ubuntu feisty...
05:20:53 <larz3> followed the instructions here -> http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/index.php?title=Building&printable=yes#Feisty
05:21:30 <larz3> and keeps failing at the following place->
05:21:39 <larz3> make[2]: Entering directory `/home/larry/src/gnucash-2.2.1/po'
05:21:40 <larz3> file=`echo ca | sed 's,.*/,,'`.gmo \
05:21:40 <larz3> && rm -f $file && -o $file ca.po
05:21:40 <larz3> /bin/sh: -o: not found
05:21:40 <larz3> make[2]: *** [ca.gmo] Error 127
05:21:40 <larz3> make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/larry/src/gnucash-2.2.1/po'
05:21:42 <larz3> make[1]: *** [install-recursive] Error 1
05:21:44 <larz3> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/larry/src/gnucash-2.2.1'
05:21:46 <larz3> make: *** [install] Error 2
05:21:50 <larz3> **** Installation failed. Aborting package creation.
05:21:50 <larz3> Cleaning up...OK
05:21:52 <larz3> Bye.
05:22:07 <larz3> i installed gettext like some googling suggested with no luck
05:42:16 <cortana> looks like the configure script failed to find a program
05:42:20 <cortana> -o $file ca.po
05:42:26 <cortana> there sould be some program before the -o
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06:44:25 <larz3> cortana, thanks! turns out i forgot to re-run configure after installing gettext
06:44:37 <cortana> ah i suspected something liek that
06:44:46 <cortana> the configure script shoudl really fail though if it can't find gettext
06:45:03 <larz3> one would think
06:51:27 <cortana> so you could file a bug report about that ;)
06:55:22 <larz3> sure thing...i'm also interested in updating the chinese translations...they seem to be rather incomplete...need to look in to that
07:04:37 <kcwu> larz3: chinese translation? zh_TW or zh_CN ?
07:05:21 <larz3> kcwu, zh_CN is more incomplete...we're in mainland so that's of more interest
07:06:20 <kcwu> I am trying to translate more for zh_TW, and contacting the original translator (not yet got reply)
07:15:53 <larz3> kcwu, cool, how far have you gotten?
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07:16:56 <larz3> its actually easier for us to just convert the zh_TW to zh_CN changing word usage and vocabulary where appropriate
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08:17:45 <jsled> larz3: See <http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=473827> for a not-yet-applied zh_CN translation.
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08:31:54 <larz3> jsled, thanks, will check it out. hope someone applies it soon so that it gets into the next windows build
08:32:23 <larz3> cortana, filed bug report for the gettext issue http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=476189
08:32:38 <cortana> rgr
08:33:40 <warlord> larz3: yeah, can you supply the config.log from the broken configure?
08:38:07 <jsled> larz3: yeah, I'm a bit confused about why it wasn't applied when cstim did a couple other translation-update commits just a couple of nights ago... I'll try to ask him today.
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08:51:40 <chris> warlord, jsled: early starts, eh?
08:51:52 <warlord> yep
08:51:57 <warlord> Been up for over an hour
09:00:57 <larz3> warlord, done. had to remove gettext and recreate the bug to get the logfile. will add the procedure to a comment
09:01:33 <warlord> thanks.
09:04:14 <kcwu> larz3: currently, most what I done are fix and review the fuzzy translations. remains about 500 fuzzy and 500 untranslated.
09:09:22 <larz3> kcwu, the zh_TW translations, right?
09:09:27 <kcwu> yes
09:12:36 <larz3> kcwu, do you know if there's something like gtranslator for windows? is there a windows build?
09:13:52 <kcwu> larz3: i don't know about gtranslator. i use vim+poedit
09:13:59 <larz3> i'd like to put one of my non-technical staff members on translating zh_CN
09:15:04 <warlord> larz3: can you try the patch I just uploaded to that bug?
09:15:59 <larz3> warlord, i'm using the 2.2.1 .tar.bz2 source distribution. it doesnt have autogen.sh. just configure. will that be a problem?
09:16:26 <warlord> I dont know.
09:16:42 <warlord> It might rebuild configure properly.. or you might need to re-run 'autoconf' by hand.
09:21:16 <larz3> warlord, it didnt. will try autoconf
09:21:43 <warlord> Worst case, pull out trunk from SVN and build from that instead of the tarball? ;)
09:22:00 <larz3> sure...trunk or 2.2 branch?
09:22:23 <warlord> there is no 2.2 branch.
09:22:42 <larz3> oh. ok then :-)
09:24:04 <warlord> (which is why I said "pull out trunk ..."
09:24:05 <warlord> )
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09:28:33 <larz3> warlord, sorry about that. its late here and i'm also using gnucash to do some accounting at the same time
09:28:56 <warlord> Ah. fun. :)
09:31:53 <larz3> compiling from trunk, autogen.sh fails because i don't have libtoolize or intltoolize installed. installing intltool through apt automatically installs gettext as a dependency
09:32:24 <larz3> someone installing from svn wouldn't run into this issue....only from the .tar.bz2 that already has configure pre-generated
09:33:27 <warlord> Sure, but can you test it anyways? Run autogen.sh, then remove gettext, then run configure
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09:38:05 <larz3> warlord, working on it. testing trunk first without patch to see if it has same behavior as 2.2.1. if so will try with the patch
09:44:02 <larz3> warlord, autogen.sh fails when the patch is applied:
09:44:04 <larz3> Running autoconf ...
09:44:04 <larz3> configure.in:888: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_ARG_CHECKING
09:44:04 <larz3> If this token and others are legitimate, please use m4_pattern_allow.
09:44:04 <larz3> See the Autoconf documentation.
09:44:05 <larz3> **Error**: autoconf failed.
09:45:21 <warlord> Grr.,
09:45:23 <warlord> Thanks.
09:45:36 <warlord> change that to AC_MSG_CHECKING
09:45:54 <warlord> (serves me right for sending a patch that I didn't even try myself) ;)
09:45:59 <jsled> heh
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10:31:00 <warlord> larz3: did that work?
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10:32:49 <larz3> warlord, changing it to AC_MSG_CHECKING fixes the error on 888...but it doesnt tell me i'm missing gettext
10:33:05 <larz3> (double checked that i removed it before running configure)
10:33:38 <larz3> used clean copy of trunk too
10:33:51 <warlord> grep -i gettext config.log
10:33:59 <warlord> (post the results to pastebin.ca please?)
10:34:04 <warlord> er, sorry:
10:34:12 <warlord> grep -i msgfmt config.log
10:35:56 <larz3> warlord, http://pastebin.ca/693937
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10:38:57 <warlord> larz3: that makes no sense to me.
10:40:31 <warlord> Are you sure you applied the patch after pulling down trunk?
10:40:42 <warlord> (and the fixed the AC_ARG_CHECKING -> AC_MSG_CHECKING) ?
10:40:51 <warlord> s/the/then
10:41:20 <larz3> i'll try it one more time
10:41:23 <larz3> to make sure
10:41:49 <warlord> thanks..
10:42:01 <warlord> I dont see enough output..
10:42:15 <warlord> Also, try to collect the output from configure, if you could?
10:42:22 <larz3> warlord, what else to you want to see
10:42:23 <larz3> sure
10:42:57 <warlord> What i mean is that configure isn't saying everything I told it to say..
10:44:52 <larz3> http://pastebin.ca/693950 <- your modified patch as i'm applying it
10:46:50 <warlord> right.. so we should see a "checking for gmsgfmt... " and then "no" with the error output, or some program name, or "none needed"
10:50:19 <larz3> warlord, http://pastebin.ca/693958 all of the output from after applying the patch
10:51:36 <larz3> line 413
10:51:50 <larz3> #
10:51:50 <larz3> checking for gmsgfmt... none needed -- HAVE_GETTEXT is false
10:52:24 <warlord> Aha!
10:52:25 <warlord> checking for gmsgfmt... none needed -- HAVE_GETTEXT is false
10:54:30 <warlord> I think this is really a bug in the glib-gettext macros.
10:55:45 <warlord> I dont know how to work around this, short of always forcing users to compile with gettext support, which would invalidate the --disable-nls configure option.
10:56:17 <warlord> Which... doesn't exist anymore!
10:57:01 <warlord> Okay, new patch on the way.
10:57:17 <warlord> can you just 'svn revert configure.in' for now? I'll send a new patch to the bug shortly.
11:02:48 <larz3> warlord, sure
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11:07:31 <warlord> larz3: okay, new patch uploaded. Let me know?
11:08:15 <larz3> warlord, will try it now
11:08:22 <warlord> thx
11:21:15 <larz3> warlord, http://pastebin.ca/694014 ....check line 408
11:21:22 <larz3> checking whether we have a valid gettext/gmsgfmt installation... ./configure: line 28241: test: too many arguments
11:21:35 <warlord> BLAH. IT WORKED FOR ME!! *sniff*
11:22:43 <warlord> What if you change the "-o" to ||
11:24:00 <larz3> which "-o"
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11:33:02 <warlord> +if test "$gt_cv_have_gettext" != "yes" -o test "x$GMSGFMT" = "x"; then
11:34:31 <warlord> Changing that -o to a || works in my preliminary tests.
11:39:23 <larz3> trying
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11:49:35 <larz3> warlord, excellent http://pastebin.ca/694055
11:49:47 <larz3> warlord, thanks!
11:49:53 <warlord> larz3: great.
11:50:27 <warlord> I'll commit it now. Fix will be in 2.2.2
11:56:36 <warlord> larz3: r16526.
12:00:07 <larz3> jsled, i updated the zh_CN accounts translation you pointed me to earlier (http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=473827) and went ahead and created a zh_HK and zh_TW version of the business account
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15:41:28 <felle> R0lf: https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-de/2004-November/002175.html
15:42:02 <jsled> Oh ... ther's another rolf.
15:42:42 <felle> Other?
15:43:12 <jsled> /whois rolf reports someone heavily into mono, presumably not R0lf.
15:44:18 <R0lf> yes, we snap the name from each other whenever we can ;-)
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15:44:31 <jsled> @later notes rolf
15:44:31 <gncbot> jsled: Sent 15 hours and 57 minutes ago: <jsled> that a perfectly reasonable approach to dealing with updating the txf stuff is to rewrite it in C from SCM. :)
15:45:10 <donald> Need some help installing GNUcash
15:45:37 <R0lf> jsled: @later notes rolf?
15:45:43 <R0lf> What does that mean?
15:46:02 <jsled> R0lf: Well, I told gncbot to deliver the note above to you, but as 'Rolf'. So, it won't do so, as your nick is now R0lf.
15:46:08 <jsled> So I forced its delivery.
15:46:23 <R0lf> OK
15:46:39 <donald> From initial blank window selecting any option from a dropdown menu cayses GNUcash to disappear (exit).
15:46:40 * R0lf logs to the log to find the question to the answer.
15:46:49 <R0lf> donald: First things first
15:46:52 <R0lf> What distro?
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15:47:11 <R0lf> What version of gnucash?
15:47:14 <R0lf> Gotten where?
15:47:16 <donald> PCLinuxOS installed GNUcash from PCLOS repository.
15:47:31 * R0lf has never heard of that.
15:47:49 <R0lf> I guess your best bet is to switch to something sane ;-)
15:48:04 <R0lf> In the meantime, you can compile from svn
15:48:09 <R0lf> That version works for me.
15:48:15 <donald> version 2.2.0
15:48:28 <R0lf> And I think you might want to report a bug with your distro maintainers
15:48:35 <jsled> donald: per <http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/FAQ#Q:_Something_bad_happened.3B_how_can_I_help_debug.3F>, is anything printed to the terminal or /tmp/gnucash.trace when you reproduce?
15:48:54 <jsled> And, I'd agree ... this sounds more like a distro issue than a gnucash issue.
15:49:32 <R0lf> jsled: Strange thing, I was logged in as Rolf earlier and nothing was delivered then
15:49:43 <jsled> did you say anything?
15:49:45 <donald> Distro forum says everyting in OK they have no problem with it bit I have seen other messages with same problem
15:50:24 <R0lf> no
15:50:27 <R0lf> jsled: no
15:50:30 <donald> is this a common GNUcash problem??
15:50:53 <R0lf> jsled: But I cannot understand what question or problem you were giving an answer for with that text.
15:51:01 <R0lf> It is totally out of contect for me.
15:51:03 <jsled> donald: not at all.
15:51:21 <donald> Is unexpected exit a common GNUcash problem?
15:51:21 <jsled> R0lf: Oh, just generally as per talking about the TXF stuff from the other day.
15:51:26 <jsled> donald: no.
15:51:30 <R0lf> donald: no
15:51:39 <R0lf> gnucash usually doesn't just crash
15:51:43 <R0lf> What use would it be?
15:52:03 <donald> Guess I'm stuck with having to fight with distro Thanks anyway!
15:52:09 <jsled> donald: per <http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/FAQ#Q:_Something_bad_happened.3B_how_can_I_help_debug.3F>, is anything printed to the terminal or /tmp/gnucash.trace when you reproduce?
15:52:17 <R0lf> donald: I suggest you compile from CVS
15:52:31 <R0lf> It is reasonably easy if you have installed the prerequisite packages
15:52:59 <donald> Thanks Rolf. I'm enough of a Linux beginner to be unable to figure out how to compile
15:53:29 <R0lf> donald: http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Building
15:53:37 <R0lf> donald: May I suggest Ubuntu?
15:53:53 <donald> Will try the wiki -- thanks
15:53:57 <R0lf> Why do you try such a strange beast as $whatwasitcalledagain?
15:54:10 <donald> I have never been able to get Ubunto to load to my HD
15:54:20 <R0lf> that is strange
15:54:30 <R0lf> Ubuntu should be easy to set up
15:54:39 <R0lf> Try #ubuntu on freenode
15:54:45 <donald> So far PCLOS has been PERFECT in every other regard!!
15:54:50 <R0lf> or the appropriate channel in your language
15:55:21 <Alistair> Good morning all.
15:55:24 <Alistair> Josh: You can also add a custom translation if you like. en_Al[istair] is there a tool the user can do this sort of thing?
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16:03:58 <jsled> Alistair: I was mostly being facetious ... though if you build from source you could either re-use or add another translation.
16:04:31 <Alistair> OK.
16:04:48 <jsled> Actually, I suppose one could just drop a .mo file into the correct directory...
16:10:18 <Alistair> I'm wondering if I have a cash bug or what - when files are opened, the register is not fully viewable unless I click on the lower row, then the screen refreshes?
16:18:09 <Alistair> Josh, one of the areas that cash needs is a bit clearer/easier instruction on how to get files across from Quicken successfully. Cash does a great job better than any I have tried, but was wondering what you think of a video showing how to do it I have camtasia and could do the recording but need someone to ensure that I have done it correctly any suggestions?
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16:55:02 <jsled> Alistair: a screencast of any part of the user experience as documentation would probably be welcome. I've suggested/planned to do some myself, but never got around to it.
16:55:30 <jsled> I'd rather focus on fixing the QIF importer proper than documenting how to work around its quirks.
16:56:11 <Alistair> OK - I just did another trial import following docs, but it was a total muck up - had to revert to previous save. So had better get on top of those issues first then with a bit more experience I could do it.
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17:35:11 <paolob-parroquia> Hi guys! In my debian unstable (which I upgrade all days) I had gnucash working. But when I closed it and reopend, it didn't want to run any more, with the error:
17:35:56 <paolob-parroquia> $ ERROR: Could not find slib/require.scm in ("/usr/share/guile/site" "/usr/share/gnucash/guile-modules" "/usr/share/gnucash/scm" "" "/usr/share/guile/site" "/usr/share/guile/1.8" "/usr/share/guile")
17:36:12 <paolob-parroquia> any idea? how can I run gnucash again? thank you!
17:37:56 <jsled> did slib get upgraded recently?
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17:40:05 <paolob-parroquia> jsled, hoy do I know it?
17:40:38 <jsled> Well, presumably your regular upgrades of debian keep some sort of log about what packages are installed/upgraded/removed?
17:40:56 <jsled> I don't know debian, so...
17:41:08 <paolob-parroquia> ~$ vdir /var/cache/apt/archives/slib_3a4-4_all.deb
17:41:09 <paolob-parroquia> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 887060 2006-11-08 04:17 /var/cache/apt/archives/slib_3a4-4_all.deb
17:41:48 <paolob-parroquia> it seems very old
17:42:41 <jsled> Well, something had to have changed. Did gnucash get upgraded? Or guile?
17:43:33 <paolob-parroquia> ~$ vdir /var/cache/apt/archives/gnucash*|grep 2.0.5
17:43:33 <paolob-parroquia> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1631822 2007-02-25 00:32 /var/cache/apt/archives/gnucash_2.0.5-1_i386.deb
17:43:33 <paolob-parroquia> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1646360 2007-09-08 15:47 /var/cache/apt/archives/gnucash_2.0.5-2_i386.deb
17:43:33 <paolob-parroquia> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3516826 2007-09-08 15:47 /var/cache/apt/archives/gnucash-common_2.0.5-2_all.deb
17:44:49 <paolob-parroquia> $ vdir /var/cache/apt/archives/guile*|grep 2007-08
17:44:49 <paolob-parroquia> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7792 2007-08-25 23:47 /var/cache/apt/archives/guile-1.8_1.8.2+1-2_i386.deb
17:44:49 <paolob-parroquia> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 684590 2007-08-25 23:47 /var/cache/apt/archives/guile-1.8-libs_1.8.2+1-2_i386.deb
17:44:49 <paolob-parroquia> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 24166 2007-08-25 12:02 /var/cache/apt/archives/guile-g-wrap_1.9.9-1_i386.deb
17:44:49 <paolob-parroquia> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 292122 2007-08-09 13:32 /var/cache/apt/archives/guile-library_0.1.5-1_all.deb
17:47:03 <R0lf> paolob-parroquia: You should not be running unstable if you don't know your system well enough.
17:47:18 <R0lf> Take a look at /var/log/aptitude
17:47:30 <paolob-parroquia> R0lf, no, I'm using apt-get
17:47:32 <R0lf> I hope you use aptitude for your upgrade
17:47:42 <R0lf> paolob-parroquia: Maybe that keeps a log as well
17:47:43 <andi5> paolob-parroquia: does http://www.linux.codehelp.co.uk/serendipity/index.php?/archives/45-g-wrap-breaks-gnucash-in-unstable.html apply?
17:48:03 <R0lf> But if you don't know that aptitude is preferred over apt-get you should not be running unstable.
17:53:19 <andi5> wharp_: ping
17:56:13 <paolob-parroquia> andi5, it doesn't solve the problem
17:56:43 <paolob-parroquia> I downgraded to testing version of guile-g-wrap and g-wrap, but I get the same error
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18:00:10 <jsled> So, it looks like gnucash itself got upgraded recently. On 9/8. From 2.0.5-1 to 2.0.5-2.
18:00:17 <jsled> So, you might downgrade *that*.
18:00:45 <jsled> The error text itself (missing slib/require.scm) obviously relates to slib, which is a perennial source of problems.
18:01:31 <jsled> Though, AIUI, debian is the one distro to have actually figured out how to get slib-3a4 to work — you might want to downgrade slib to 3a1 or 3a3 (if easy) and try that.
18:09:09 <paolob-parroquia> jsled, I downgraded to 2.0.5-1, and it works. Thank you!
18:09:30 <jsled> paolob-parroquia: huh. Well, please take the issue downstream to debian.
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18:13:42 <paolob-parroquia> well, thanks to all of you. Bye!
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18:14:39 <Alistair> Does someone have a few minutes to help me sort out an import problem with QIF? Here is scenario. I imported over and most of the accounts came through almost perfectly, some accounts had anomalies which were inside the IMBALANCE folder so that was helpful. There is one account that has not accepted transfers from other accounts, so I did another export QIF imported and of course the other...
18:14:41 <Alistair> ...accounts were put out of balance. Started a new file and imported now the offending account is perfect. I want to know if there is a method to take the account from the perfect (new file) and move it into the same account of the file which has otherwise perfect other accounts (if thats clear) thank you.
18:15:15 <jsled> By "account", you mean "account and the transactions it contains"?
18:15:27 <Alistair> Yes
18:15:31 <jsled> No, there's not.
18:15:36 <Alistair> OK
18:16:03 <jsled> But, when you import subsequent QIF data, you should be able to update the mapping that results in the Imbalance account usage.
18:16:11 <jsled> And then, it will be remembered going forward.
18:16:33 <jsled> You'll need to manually update the already-created Imbalance-referencing Transactions, though.
18:16:37 <Alistair> OK this is where its coming unstuck
18:16:50 <Alistair> Whats happening is...........
18:18:03 <Alistair> I have all the accounts of one file in balance apart from one. If I export the QIF with only that one account, it still effects all the other accounts which is to be expected, but I would have thought the previous duplications would have been flagged, not so.
18:18:28 <jsled> "export the QIF"?
18:18:43 <Alistair> From Quicken - export the one account
18:18:54 <jsled> And re-import it into gnucash, presumably.
18:19:00 <Alistair> Yep
18:19:57 <jsled> I don't have a good handle on how the QIF importer deals with dups. It should have a duplicate resolution step, where you can say that a transaction is the same as another... but I think that might only be true if the accounts match up, which wouldn't be the case if you're changing the account mapping.
18:20:16 <jsled> I'd blow away the mis-mapped transactions, then re-import them.
18:21:27 <Alistair> Yes, it does - it has matches dialog and supposedly I did that right. Fortunately, I can open my good file so will keep pursuing it and if sort it will do a report how to do it (on that video) otherwise it imported most stuff really well.
18:21:59 <Alistair> Thanks vm
18:23:04 <Alistair> Could I export the good account only from CASH, then re-import it into the good file then?
18:23:22 <jsled> (It's GnuCash, not "cash".)
18:23:30 <Alistair> shortform
18:23:33 <jsled> No, you cannot export a subset of transactions.
18:23:42 <Alistair> OK, just a thought
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20:59:45 <felle> jsled, I was wondering, why the first sentence of http://www.gnucash.org/de/index.phtml is in english.
21:00:37 <felle> someone, removed a star? before BSD, but in .po is this sign
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21:26:00 <warlord> felle: it means the translation hasn't been updated.
21:27:06 <felle> I checked out SVN. all files have *BSD
21:28:07 <warlord> including the index.phtml file?
21:28:51 <warlord> maybe someone needs to rebuild the .pot file?
21:30:25 <felle> index.phtml file: "BSD", po/*po: "*BSD"
21:35:09 <warlord> Right.. the .pot (and hense, the PO files) need to be rebuilt.
21:35:13 <warlord> send mail to -devel
21:53:31 <felle> done
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22:12:52 <nbinont> There...my nightly build scheduling is almost done - soon we should have nightly svn builds for windows
22:13:23 <nbinont> not that it was a requirement -I just wanted to do it ;)
22:13:47 <warlord> nbinont: cool.
22:14:00 <warlord> i was thinking of trying to set that up for Linux at some point.
22:14:27 <nbinont> that would be neat too
22:14:50 <warlord> probably not until the spring (most likely) when I can build a nice vmware host system.
22:15:02 <nbinont> which distros...or just for the source?
22:15:50 <warlord> just for the source.. to make sure the code actually builds. Not to make binaries (althought I guess that COULD be a side effect)
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22:34:14 <larz3> is there anyway to turn off the log files and backup files on every save? we use subversion to store the account file
22:34:51 <warlord> larz3: turn off? no. But you can tell gnucash to delete them after only 1 daqy
22:34:53 <warlord> day
22:37:47 <larz3> warlord, thanks
22:39:16 <larz3> i'm having a staff member migrate our messy accounts from a spreadsheet to gnucash and she was getting confused by the svn working directory filling up with many files
22:40:02 <warlord> Why are you using SVN?
22:43:07 <larz3> because we use it for all of our business docs. it is nice to access things from the past :-) provides for easy access and collaboration from different countries. and we only have to worry about backing up the svn repository. it is also useful to see who has made changes and when.
22:44:03 <warlord> Note that you're getting big diffs even when the file doesn't change.. But I guess disk space is cheap.
22:44:27 <larz3> would it be better to turn off compression?
22:44:31 <larz3> on the gnucash file
22:45:17 <warlord> No. gnucash is not deterministic in the XML data order. So even a no-change re-save of the file could cause the xml elements to move around.
22:45:30 <warlord> also, keep in mind that eventually we plan to migrate from XML to SQLite.
22:45:34 <warlord> (hopefully)
22:47:48 <larz3> oh well. disk space is cheap :-)
22:47:59 <larz3> thanks for the heads up!
22:48:38 <warlord> NP
22:49:19 <larz3> another question while i'm thinking about it. how does gnucash determine exchange rate on importing from a qfx file?
22:50:05 <larz3> and for determining the value of an account in the base currency, does it sum up the actual values in the account and then convert the balance using the current rate or use some other method?
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22:51:18 <warlord> i dont know.
22:51:30 <warlord> (sorry, i'm a little tired)
22:51:34 <warlord> I should really just go ot bed.
22:54:01 <larz3> its alright...i'll throw an for the 2nd question out there in case anyone knows the answer
22:54:11 <warlord> ok
23:10:26 <larz3> assume i have a series of accounts denominated in HKD with on USD-denominated credit card account. if i import USD-denominated charges from a credit card website into a gnucash usd credit card account, even if the exchange rate is set properly, some charges get imported with a 1-1 HKD-USD exchange rate. The result is that the values of the accounts in HKD are skewed. am i doing something wrong?
23:10:38 <larz3> actually i think this sounds a lot like http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128769
23:11:39 <warlord> larz3: yes, you're expecting the importers to handle exchange rates. I dont think any of them do, because all import formats are one-sided.
23:14:49 <warlord> anyways, i'm off. good night.
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23:15:20 <larz3> warlord-afk, night
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