2007-08-29 GnuCash IRC logs
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06:16:11 <cornell> K, thanks, warlord, I'll try again
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06:51:13 <R0lf> could it be that bugzilla is b0rked at the moment?
06:51:23 <R0lf> I get strange errors when trying to report bugs
06:52:04 <Jaran> they decided they had enough bugs ;)
06:52:25 <Jaran> well no idea, at least checking bugs works fine for me but i remember bugzilla had some problems too a month ago
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06:58:43 <R0lf> Jaran: Thanks for your feedback
06:58:56 <R0lf> It seems this is a general issue and not just me
06:59:03 <R0lf> Let's hope, this gets fixed soon
07:10:13 <Jaran> i'm sure it will :)
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09:13:00 <jsled> Oh man. "DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Incorrect key file for table './bugs/bugs.MYI'; try to repair it [for Statement "update bugs[...]" from b.g.o.
09:13:45 <Jaran> oh, that's evil
09:13:50 <warlord> maybe contact #bugsquad?
09:13:56 <Jaran> myisamchk!
09:14:02 <jsled> emailing bugmaster@ as per page...
09:33:12 <mps> Is it possible to print invoice without currency label in front of the numbers?
09:33:55 <warlord> mps: it will always print either a currency symbol or currency label.
09:34:16 <warlord> it will use the symbol for your locale currency. the label for all others.
09:35:06 <mps> Is there a possibility to change that in invoice.scm files?
09:35:45 <warlord> well, anything can be done with the right amount of programming...
09:36:00 <warlord> You'd have to change the output from a currency-collector to just a gnc-numeric
09:36:10 <warlord> er, commodity-collector
09:36:38 <mps> I see. I don't understand scheme (nor lisp) enough to do that
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09:37:17 <warlord> well then I guess the answer is "no" ;)
09:37:43 <mps> Yes. :-(
09:38:21 <warlord> so I guess you're not a software developer at all, huh?
09:38:59 <mps> I am, but don't have enough free time to learn lisp/scheme :_(
09:39:18 <mps> s/:_(/:-(
09:39:27 <warlord> you can learn the scheme syntax in a day
09:39:46 <warlord> it's so simple they use it to TRAIN software developers
09:40:08 <warlord> it really would take about a week to learn the full language and semantics.
09:40:12 <mps> I tried and it look easy, but I'm short on time
09:42:04 <warlord> still, this begs the question: WHY do you want to make this change?
09:42:14 <mps> you are right. it looks like beautiful language and easy to learn
09:43:10 <mps> I don't like to have currency label on invoices because it is not customary here in Serbia
09:45:11 <warlord> is it illegal?
09:46:15 <mps> No, I think it is not. But I didn't have seen localy made invoice with it
09:46:55 <warlord> So? Does it really matter?
09:47:07 <warlord> Are people going to get confused? Or not pay it?
09:48:52 <mps> You don't know how people are conservative here :-(
09:49:36 <mps> I think if I send invoice with currency label they will be realy confused
09:50:15 <mps> Maybe I should try with my accountant first ;-)
09:57:48 <mps> warlord: can you tell me in which file is commodity-collector procedure is defined?
09:59:53 <warlord> not offhand. you can 'find | grep' as easily as I can.
10:00:08 <warlord> it's probably in src/report/report-utilities/...
10:00:35 <mps> found. it is /usr/share/gnucash/scm/report-utilities.scm on debian
10:04:12 <mps> warlord: thank you... I will try to change it.
10:04:36 <warlord> ok
10:04:53 <mps> thank you for hint
10:06:42 <warlord> you're welcome.
10:07:54 <mps> I already translated column labels in easy-invoice.scm to Serbian language
10:08:41 <mps> I pressume it isn't canonical way for such task to change source but I haven't idea where to do that :-)
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10:10:11 <warlord> mps: po/<serbian>
10:10:22 <warlord> And then run in a serbian locale.
10:10:28 <warlord> Wait, what IS your locale?
10:11:04 <mps> en_US but I selected YUM as currency
10:11:20 <warlord> how did you select 'YUM' as currency?
10:12:13 <mps> Preferences->Account->Default Currency and Chose from list
10:13:11 <warlord> Right, that's not setting your locale currency!
10:13:21 <warlord> Why don't you run it in a Serbian locale?
10:13:55 <mps> I didn't know it will work. Would it?
10:14:49 <warlord> Well, it would change the invoice from printing YUM to printing whatever the currency symbol is..
10:15:06 <warlord> And IF there is a serbian translation, it will translate the invoice and all other text.
10:15:32 <jsled> warlord, chris: SoC final eval deadline is Friday, btw.
10:16:23 <warlord> Uh oh!
10:16:55 <mps> warlord: thank you, I will try
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11:10:47 <knopf> hello. i upgraded from gnucash 1 to gnucash 2.2 and somehow the stock updating is now no longer working. is there somewhere a description what quote source means what?
11:10:52 <knopf> (please)
11:11:46 <jsled> knopf: have you tried running `gnc-fq-check`?
11:12:16 <knopf> jsled: yes, it gives me a list of quote sources
11:12:25 <knopf> jsled: however, the ones that I entered are now no longer working
11:12:34 <knopf> jsled: i mean the ones from the old gnucash file
11:13:17 <knopf> jsled: for example it says: unable to retrieve quotes for these items: ASE:INTE.VI
11:13:30 <knopf> jsled: or even: XETRA:BAY.DE
11:13:35 <knopf> jsled: this worked before
11:14:07 <jsled> Here, all the sources seem to correspond to files in /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/Finance/Quote/*.pm
11:15:02 <jsled> (your distro may vary...)
11:16:30 <knopf> jsled: how can I find out the version of my finance module?
11:17:31 <knopf> jsled: ah, have version 1.13
11:17:33 <jsled> the first item in the s-expr returned by `gnc-fq-check` should be the F::Q version.
11:17:34 <jsled> right.
11:18:01 <knopf> so why does it now no longer recognize xetra ?
11:18:10 <jsled> I couldn't say.
11:18:25 <jsled> I don't know much about F::Q. What source were you using before?
11:19:24 <knopf> xetra
11:19:41 <knopf> well it works now with yahoo_europe, however, i don't know how easy it is to change the source in gnucash
11:21:19 <jsled> I think it's just changing a combobox in a dialog....
11:28:26 <knopf> jsled: well i'm slowly changing all of them. just one quick question: what is the "type" for in the edit security dialog?
11:29:58 <jsled> It corresponds to the namespace. I think it's just a grouping construct.
11:37:32 <knopf> hm. i hate that many of my puny stocks are not in finance_europe
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11:40:19 <edhel> hello. I'm using a multicolumn report, with 4 reports in it. they are currently laid out all horizontally, 1 row x 4 columns. is there a way to have 2 rows x 2 columns?
11:41:07 <jsled> wow. the multi-column report.
11:41:37 <edhel> did I say a bad word? ;) I love that report :)
11:41:46 <jsled> Oh. I'm just surprised it works... :)
11:42:07 <jsled> in the options, I believe you can adjust where the swallowed reports are positioned.
11:42:10 <edhel> it does. takes long to update, but works :)
11:42:12 <jsled> The Contents panel.
11:42:23 <knopf> one question about yahoo_europe. when it says on de.finance.yahoo.com that they support a stock exchange, does this mean that they support all stocks and funds noted on that exchange?
11:43:20 <edhel> well, the contents panel let me edit a list of included reports. and for each of them the Size button allows me to enter row span or column span, but that seems different
11:43:59 <jsled> knopf: likely. By "they" you mean yahoo?
11:44:10 <knopf> jsled: yes, i mean yahoo
11:44:30 <jsled> edhel: hmm. If you reduce the column width to 2, does it not reflow them?
11:44:50 <knopf> jsled: well, how come that the vienna stock exchange lists a fund with this isin "AT0000708342" but de.finance.yahoo.com doesn't find it at all
11:45:05 <knopf> jsled: am I am doing anything wrong?
11:45:06 <jsled> knopf: uh ... ask Yahoo?
11:45:19 <edhel> is there really a column width property? maybe that's new, I'm still on 2.0.5 (shame!)
11:45:40 <jsled> edhel: the report hasn't changed in forever...
11:45:53 <jsled> In the General options tab...
11:45:55 <edhel> heh :)
11:46:01 <knopf> jsled: sorry, i know that you can't give me the answer. i was just thinking whether this topic ever came up here
11:46:06 <edhel> General has
11:46:07 <edhel> oh
11:46:11 <edhel> I'm so stupid
11:46:22 <edhel> I thought I had to tell how many reports there would be there
11:46:43 <jsled> knopf: not that I recall
11:46:45 <jsled> edhel: heh.
11:46:49 <edhel> gah, sorry for loosing your time, many thanks
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12:05:09 <knopf> jsled: ok. now I have the situation that a stock works with qnc-fq-dump, but it results an error in gnucash
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12:08:17 <edhel> hello again. my multicolumn report is becoming awesome ;p is there a way to change the piechart colors?
12:13:53 <jsled> no.
12:15:13 <edhel> ok, it's still awesome anyway
12:17:39 <warlord> Cool.
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13:37:04 <jsled> "[b.g.o problems] should now be fixed." - private email
13:37:53 <warlord> cool. is it?
13:38:32 <jsled> heh. trying...
13:39:03 <jsled> funny, the generated comment from my earlier attempt was saved, but not the actual effect...
13:39:09 <jsled> (<http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=471455#c1>)
13:39:26 <jsled> aye, there we go.
13:43:44 <warlord> Interesting.
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16:02:56 <runlevelten> Is there a gnucash support channel I should be using instead of this one?
16:03:56 <jsled> this is the one.
16:05:10 <runlevelten> Ah thank you anyway. I have an American friend who was able to decipher some of the US terminology for me. Thanks anyway. :)
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16:05:26 <runlevelten> Have a good day/night/whatever.
16:05:28 <jsled> Ah. There is an en_GB translation.
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16:05:40 <jsled> Though... oh, bye.
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17:25:02 <chan> can anyone help with my gnucash install?
17:25:38 <jsled> perhaps ... certainly not until you ask a "real" question... :)
17:26:10 <chan> I downloaded the source and run configure with enable-ubci, ofx....
17:26:19 <jsled> hmm. what distro?
17:26:24 <chan> however, i am unable to find the aqofxconnect option
17:26:29 <chan> running ubuntu
17:26:38 <chan> 7.04
17:27:18 <chan> this is the configure options I used ./configure --enable-ofx --enable-hbci --bindir=/usr/bin --disable-static --with-backends="aqhbci aqdtaus aqgeldkarte aqofxconnect" --with-frontends="cbanking g2banking qbanking kbanking"
17:28:02 <jsled> http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Debian
17:28:27 <chan> I was there
17:28:52 <chan> but the tar ball I downloaded from gnucash.org doesn't have the debian/ dir within
17:29:07 <chan> I mean the debian/rules
17:29:43 <jsled> but that's mentioning the libaqbanking sources, right?
17:29:58 <chan> yeah
17:30:00 <jsled> yeah.
17:30:01 <chan> oh, I see
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17:30:24 <andi5> chan: did you compile aqbanking by yourself?
17:30:37 <chan> so I should uninstall all the aqbanking from aptitude, then follow their instruction
17:30:38 <andi5> there you specify what backends to built in
17:30:52 <chan> no I install aqbanking thru apt-get
17:31:19 <andi5> so does that package provide you with a corresponding .so file?
17:31:51 <chan> I haven't check yet
17:32:14 <warlord> I thought that Debian already built the AqBanking OFX Backend?
17:32:19 <chan> BTW, I am a linux newbie, could you please advise me where to check that?
17:33:12 <chan> I mean by not brand new, just not expert
17:33:57 <andi5> dpkg -l $pkgname will show you all files (expect configuration files and some other weird stuff) that a package installs
17:34:35 <chan> kool
17:34:40 <andi5> http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=libaqbanking-plugins-libgwenhywfar38&version=feisty&arch=i386 does not list ofx though ... .although the pkg description seems to imply that ofx is built in
17:35:55 <chan> this is what I got for aqbanking
17:35:56 <chan> ii aqbanking-tool 2.2.3-3 basic command line homebanking utility
17:35:56 <chan> ii aqbanking16-qt-wizard 2.2.3-3 setup tool for AqBanking
17:35:56 <chan> ii libaqbanking-data 2.2.3-3 configuration files for libaqbanking
17:35:57 <chan> ii libaqbanking-doc 2.2.3-3 library for online banking applications
17:36:00 <chan> ii libaqbanking-plugins-libgwenhywfar38 2.2.3-3 library for online banking applications plug
17:36:03 <chan> ii libaqbanking16 2.2.3-3 library for online banking applications
17:36:06 <chan> ii libaqbanking16-dev 2.2.3-3 library for online banking applications
17:36:09 <andi5> i guess you can spawn the qt3-aqbanking-wizard (do not ask me where it is, somewhere over the rainbow, i guess) to see available backends
17:36:16 <andi5> oops
17:36:18 <andi5> -L i mean
17:36:21 <jsled> *cough* http://pastebin.ca/ *cough*
17:36:53 <chan> I am able to launch the wizzard, just doesn't have the aqofxconnect backend
17:37:03 <andi5> so there you are..
17:38:55 <chan> so I have aqhbci, aqgeldkarte and aqdtaus
17:39:07 <chan> and what's that link about
17:39:18 <andi5> click and read it
17:39:21 <jsled> please use a pastebin instead of flooding text into the channel.
17:39:47 <chan> I see
17:40:37 <chan> sorry, thanks for your patience
17:40:48 <andi5> so what is your plan?
17:41:38 <andi5> if you have compiled stuff from source before, i guess it is easiest to just compile aqbanking (and maybe even gwenhywfar beforehand) with appropriate configure flags and be happy :-)
17:42:25 <chan> thinking about removing all aqbanking from apt, then recompile it from source
17:42:44 <chan> thanks guys
17:42:53 <warlord> Just use /opt
17:42:59 <warlord> (much easier to remove later)
17:42:59 <andi5> although it may be a bug that ofx is missing
17:43:22 <chan> that's new to me
17:43:47 <chan> any reading material handy by chance?
17:44:49 <jsled> such as?
17:45:00 <jsled> er ... material regarding?
17:45:19 <chan> warlord sugested use /opt
17:45:34 <warlord> right.... --prefix=/opt/..
17:45:40 <chan> oh i see
17:45:41 <andi5> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libaqbanking/+bug/68351
17:46:06 <jsled> Ah. Well, the "official" semantics for /opt are defined by the LSB, I guess. But the idea is just to have /opt/{package}/ as a stand-alone dir so you can easily `rm -Rf /opt/{package}/` later without deleting much else.
17:47:12 <warlord> Right.
17:47:29 <andi5> for obvious reasons those packages may not work after that, just consider aqbanking without gwenhywfar :-)
17:48:04 <chan> I see, thank you very much for all these tips
17:48:05 <jsled> <http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#OPTADDONAPPLICATIONSOFTWAREPACKAGES> if you're curious what the FHS says about /opt.
17:48:16 <chan> yeah
17:48:54 <chan> hope I didn't offend anyone with my ignorance and newbie IRC manner
17:49:14 <andi5> jsled: somehow i saw the substring "DONT" in the url and expect a BIGFATWARNING ;-)
17:49:27 <jsled> chan: it's all good.
17:49:30 <jsled> andi5: heh.
17:50:06 <andi5> chan: you are acting just fine, really... nice to have you here :-)
17:50:53 <chan> thank you much, I'll have to pick up my wife from work then start hacking away tonight, if I see you guys around, I'll let you know the outcome
17:51:25 <warlord> good luck
17:51:47 <chan> one more question, I've never got a solid answer from anyone of my friend, that is "how to remove what I compiled before.
17:52:03 <andi5> *g*
17:52:08 <chan> cause I think I should clean up my box with /opt
17:52:20 <warlord> "make uninstall"?
17:52:26 <andi5> iff that works
17:53:08 <warlord> yeah... which is why I suggest /opt -- because it makes it easy to remove.
17:53:10 <andi5> and you may have deleted the sources, so opt-style is definitely a plus
17:53:12 <chan> if I ran make clean already, would that still work? or do I have to reinstall, then run make uninstall
17:53:18 <jsled> chan: This is one of the big reasons for package management ... also, you might look at gnu stow, which is similar. The /opt/{dir} trick can work.
17:54:01 <chan> thanks
17:54:26 <andi5> chan: i think "make uninstall" should still work after "make clean"... but i am not 100% sure
17:54:47 <chan> I am going to try real quick
17:56:13 <warlord> it SHOULD work after "make clean".. but it wont work after "make distclean"
17:57:06 <chan> got a couple errors
17:57:19 <andi5> oh, you may need superuser rights?
17:57:32 <chan> yup
17:57:47 <chan> and I jsut posted the errors, if you are interested
17:57:59 <andi5> give us the pastebin url here, please
17:58:21 <chan> wait
17:58:29 <chan> I thought I did
17:59:06 <chan> never use that before, anyway http://pastebin.ca/675205
17:59:45 <andi5> so it _does not_ work... you will need "make all uninstall", as it seems.... well
18:00:49 <chan> let me try
18:01:07 <andi5> that will take some time though.... time that i will need to sleep :-) see you
18:01:28 <chan> yeah, thanks for all your help
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18:02:42 <warlord> you're welcome.
18:02:44 <chan> I should get going too
18:02:56 <warlord> okay.
18:03:00 <warlord> It's only 6p here.
18:03:01 <chan> see you all later, I'll log back on tonight or tomorrow
18:03:18 <chan> I am in pacific time
18:03:23 <chan> only 3
18:03:32 <chan> getting off work right now
18:03:48 <warlord> Gee, me too.. And I've been working since 8:30. ;)
18:04:04 <jsled> clearly, we're in the wrong line of work. :)
18:04:14 <chan> I work 4/10 which is actually 11 hrs
18:04:46 <warlord> hehehe
18:04:48 <jsled> 4/10?
18:05:01 <chan> oh, is this chat archived somewhere?
18:05:09 <warlord> chan: yes. see the /topic
18:05:30 <chan> yeah 4 days, 10hours+1hour lunch / day
18:06:37 <chan> awesome, thank you. I think I've just fell in love with IRC
18:07:10 <jsled> heh
18:07:24 <chan> jsled: thank you very much
18:07:39 <chan> I think I am going to bail now, can't stand this place any longer
18:07:56 <chan> I mean work place, not this channel
18:07:58 <warlord> jsled: at some point we should really work on restructing the log dir to break up into YYYY/MM/DD.html
18:08:03 <chan> =]
18:08:32 <warlord> (or provide a nice HTML interface ala pipermail)
18:09:17 <chan> ?
18:09:31 <chan> sorry
18:09:37 <warlord> chan: that's to jsled, not to you
18:09:44 <chan> wrong console
18:10:03 <chan> alright, take it easy, nice to meet you
18:12:20 <jsled> chan: take care
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18:22:28 <warlord> jsled: cool, thanks.
18:28:16 <jsled> blah
18:28:16 <jsled> blah
18:28:27 <warlord> blah?
18:28:29 <jsled> Oh, I guess it's working, then.,
18:28:35 <warlord> ???
18:28:37 <warlord> Oh..
18:28:43 <jsled> http://lists.gnucash.org/logs/2007/08/2007-08-29.html
18:28:51 <warlord> Maybe should've moved the existing logs first? ;)
18:29:02 <jsled> Can do it now ...
18:29:19 <warlord> Actally, looks like it already has all of today.
18:29:28 <jsled> yeah, that one I moved over during the restart.
18:29:39 <warlord> Gotcha
18:29:41 <warlord> Cool!
18:32:22 <jsled> http://lists.gnucash.org/logs/2007/08/
18:33:47 <warlord> Hmm, why are some of hte early January files dated 1-Jul-07?
18:34:28 <jsled> I think they got regenerated at some point?
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18:34:43 <warlord> Okay.
18:35:15 <jsled> Hmm. That is strange.
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18:50:51 <warlord> what is?
18:51:11 <jsled> the timestamp issue on those 2007/01/ files.
18:51:39 <warlord> Yeah, it's very weird.
18:51:45 <jsled> Maybe they were regen'ed ... but I didn't make any changes to irc_log_htmlizer.py after 2007-01-02, so I'm not sure why I'd have done it then.
18:53:21 <warlord> Not sure.
18:53:30 <warlord> but someone did something on July 1st
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19:07:02 <node_6> hi all
19:07:46 <node_6> I'm installing gnucash for the first time. I'm think I'm just about done satisfying the configure script's prereq's
19:07:53 <jsled> node_6: what distro?
19:08:01 <node_6> I had a helluva time getting slib done
19:08:06 <node_6> lfs
19:08:17 <jsled> okay.
19:08:27 <node_6> somebody should really clean up slib and/or the configure script .. whichever causes more strife
19:08:42 <node_6> (just an observation) :)
19:08:58 <jsled> slib's annoying, but most distros have sorted it out.
19:09:12 <node_6> slackware?
19:09:21 <jsled> I said "distro".
19:09:22 <jsled> :)
19:09:29 <node_6> slackware's a distro
19:09:50 <node_6> predefined package set, package manager, etc.
19:10:20 <node_6> am I picking up some animosity here... ? :P
19:10:29 <warlord> node_6: s/distro/REAL distro/g Slackware is not a real distro.
19:10:49 <node_6> why do you say that?
19:10:54 <jsled> We've spent way too much time helping Slackware users do things that every other distro encodes in their working package management systems.
19:10:55 <warlord> It certainly isn't a distro that likes gnucash.. For example, there's no Gnome.
19:11:02 <warlord> ==jsled
19:11:14 <cortana> "package manager"
19:11:18 <cortana> god
19:11:48 <warlord> If I charged every slackware user $100 to help them get gnucash installed (and frankly that's CHEAP -- that's about 20 minutes of my time), I'd be a fairly wealthy man now.
19:12:19 <node_6> it's surprising to find a group of (presumably) experienced and intelligent linux users that don't appreciate slackware
19:12:29 * warlord ponders.. Maybe I SHOULD do that! "Oh, you want SLACKWARE help! Okay, paypal me $100 and I'll give you my undivided attention for the next 20 minutes"
19:12:41 <warlord> Oh, I appreciated slackware back in 1992.
19:12:55 <warlord> But this is the 21st century. It's lost it's usefulness.
19:13:06 <warlord> Now it just causes more problems than it solves.
19:13:25 <warlord> And DUMB people seem to choose to use slackware.
19:13:40 <warlord> ... and then expect US to hand-hold them when they can't get gnucash working.
19:13:43 <jsled> Yeah, the idea's fine. But a distro that's one guy's project, it's hard to grow to encompass the scope of a modern linux desktop.
19:14:04 <node_6> god you guys would freak if you saw my desktop then
19:14:20 <jsled> The "Patrick doesn't want to package GNOME" thing just doesn't make sense to me.
19:14:20 <node_6> basic as hell. the most 'advanced' thing running on my desktop is conky
19:14:39 <warlord> Hey, until a year or three ago I was still running vtwm as my windowmanager.
19:14:56 <node_6> what are you on now, warlord ?
19:14:59 <warlord> (actually, a locally-hacked version called 'vtwm.gamma')
19:15:01 <warlord> Metacity
19:15:09 <node_6> gnome?
19:15:11 <warlord> * nods *
19:15:12 <node_6> figures :P
19:15:30 <warlord> 95% of the apps I run are gnome apps.
19:15:43 <warlord> so it wouldn't make sense to do anything else.
19:16:02 <warlord> And, well, Fedora just makes it easy
19:16:08 <node_6> I love fluxbox ... it's perfect for me. when I'm feeling a little left behind and want a bit more 'advanced' wm, I switch to xfce :)
19:16:35 <jsled> Metacity's a good wm, imho.
19:16:36 <node_6> I thought you might say ubuntu or suse
19:17:00 <jsled> Though I've been tempted to try out xfce, but I have my little gnome-panel setup so nice. :)
19:17:11 <node_6> jsled: screenshot?
19:17:39 <warlord> I wish there were an easy way to add my own menu items to gnome-panel.
19:18:15 <warlord> my biggest beef with metacity is that it's not QUITE as configurable as I would like.
19:18:19 <jsled> Oh, it's boring. Just 4 launchers, a couple of statuss monitors, the work-mail notifiation, the weather and clock.
19:18:33 <jsled> warlord: .desktop files are easy to create, it seems...
19:18:41 <jsled> warlord: configurable w.r.t.?
19:18:55 <warlord> jsled: Um, I dont recall at this point; i've re-trained myself.
19:18:59 <jsled> heh.
19:20:08 <jsled> anyways. emacs is my real wm. ;)
19:20:11 <warlord> IIRC it was marking applications to NOT be decorated, or pinning applications to ALL workspaces.
19:20:38 <warlord> where does one put .desktop files?
19:21:18 <jsled> /usr/share/applications/
19:21:29 <jsled> there's probably a set of paths that get checked, though...
19:21:55 <warlord> Um, except I dont want them globally.. I want it only for my personal environment. Is there a $HOME/ path where I can put them
19:21:56 <warlord> ?
19:23:43 <jsled> <http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/desktop-entry-spec-latest.html> is the .desktop file spec, fwiw. (still looking for the paths...)
19:23:52 <warlord> Ahh, looks like ~/.local/share/applications/
19:23:57 <node_6> is there a (complete) list of package requirements for gnucash on the web somewhere?
19:23:58 <jsled> Ah.
19:24:19 <jsled> node_6: <http://svn.gnucash.org/repo/gnucash/trunk/packaging/gnucash-2.1.x.ebuild> has a readable list.
19:24:34 <jsled> configure.in is "truth", though.
19:24:41 <node_6> ty
19:26:03 * node_6 paypals jsled $100
19:26:07 <jsled> heh.
19:26:19 <node_6> is 'paypal' a verb yet?
19:26:32 <warlord> hehe
19:26:36 <jsled> We should support these XDG_ vars ... <http://standards.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/basedir-spec-latest.html>.
19:26:52 <jsled> yet more todos.
19:27:04 <jsled> I'm afk to make dinner. biaw.
19:27:09 <warlord> enjoy
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