2007-08-20 GnuCash IRC logs

00:00:02 <R0lf> I have compiled gnucash from source yesterday and installed it to an NFS drive
00:00:17 <R0lf> I called the binary once this morning and it booted up fine
00:01:30 <nbinont> 2.2.1 or 2.2.0?
00:01:36 <R0lf> Now, when I try to call the installed gnucash it crashes
00:01:46 <R0lf> It said 2.2.1
00:02:53 <R0lf> svn revision 16462
00:03:16 <R0lf> the latest version is on /export/gnucash, an NFS drive
00:04:13 <nbinont> and there's no error messages, just a crash?
00:04:39 <R0lf> bug buddy comes up
00:04:48 <R0lf> I will call it from the console now
00:05:33 <R0lf> nbinont: Could it be that the gnucash file was altered in a way that the previous version will crash on?
00:06:15 <R0lf> I ran the binary fine now when telling it explicitly not to open the gnucash file from the previous run
00:06:37 <nbinont> don't think so (unless you are using an old <2.0.0 gnucash)
00:06:56 <R0lf> The installed version is 2.0.2, ver r14936
00:07:25 <nbinont> and you're on kubuntu/ubuntu?
00:08:14 <R0lf> yes
00:08:38 <R0lf> And opening the file after the successful start tells me the file the is locked. When I then proceed, gnucash crashes
00:08:59 <R0lf> ** (bug-buddy:5943): WARNING **: Symbol für Ordner öffnen konnte nicht geladen werden
00:08:59 <R0lf> "/usr/bin/gnucash": not in executable format: File format not recognized
00:09:01 <nbinont> I'm afraid I'm from the windows side of things, so I can't help way too much, but I would note that there is a pre-packaged 2.0.5 for your distro
00:09:30 <R0lf> Well, that is certainly nice.
00:09:42 <R0lf> But I assume that would be for gutsy
00:09:46 <R0lf> I am on edgy
00:10:12 <nbinont> I think it was backported to 7.x
00:10:26 <R0lf> I am fine with the version I have, I just want to always compile the SVN version as well for testing purposes and to help with development work
00:10:43 <R0lf> ubuntu is usually slow with gnucash
00:10:58 <R0lf> backported by "someone out there" or by the ubuntu team?
00:11:09 <R0lf> I don't install "any old binary off the net"
00:11:52 <R0lf> OK, official version
00:12:05 <R0lf> BUt, really that is not the point.
00:12:34 <nbinont> yah..I understand...and do the same
00:12:37 <nbinont> http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=gnucash&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all
00:14:29 <R0lf> yes, I saw it was official
00:14:38 <R0lf> I am backporting it to edgy now
00:14:45 <R0lf> But again, that is not really the issue.
00:14:54 <nbinont> right
00:16:00 <nbinont> so you can open the file with 2.2.1, but when you go back to 2.0.2, 2.0.2 crashes?
00:17:37 <R0lf> yes
00:17:42 <R0lf> I will open a bug report
00:17:56 <nbinont> that would be good, thanks :)
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00:35:15 <findlay> is there a way to cache the graphviz reports so they don't have to be regenerated eacy time you open the file?
00:35:24 <findlay> s/y/h/
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01:10:51 <andi5> nbinont: ping
01:53:33 <R0lf> andi5: Good morning
01:53:39 <andi5> morgen
01:53:42 <R0lf> or should I say "Guten Morgen" ;-)
01:53:59 <R0lf> You little liar ;-)
01:54:06 <andi5> oops
01:54:22 <R0lf> "any germans around?"
01:54:40 <andi5> i was not around
01:59:24 <R0lf> hehe
02:00:12 <R0lf> andi5: How many of the main devs (those with svn rw access) are German?
02:00:24 <andi5> two
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03:22:55 <R0lf> you and Christian?
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03:32:26 <dnw> Hi I have tried compiling 2.2.1 in Linux Uvuntu 7.04 error message = /usr/include/pthread.h:285: error: conflicting types for 'pthread_t'
03:32:44 <dnw> Any ideas ?
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04:22:28 <R0lf> dnw: Are you sure you have the necessary software installed to compile gnucash?
04:23:02 <R0lf> Include a deb-src line in sources.list and then do "apt-get install --builddeps gnucash" or something like that
05:09:38 <dnw> I have been having dinner, but yes I think I have all the dependencies - certainly the configure process works.
05:24:53 <dnw> --builddeps is not the right option I will have to look it up
06:07:03 <dnw> Well I will check the dev list and see what comes up. Thanks.
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06:17:42 <cortana> apt-get build-dep gnucash
06:18:13 <cortana> are there any huge earth shattering new features in 2.2?
06:18:18 <cortana> i thought the man cool new thing was the windows port
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09:59:20 <warlord> R0lf: Do you have any SXes?
09:59:49 <R0lf> warlord: SX?
10:00:59 <warlord> http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/FAQ#Q:_What_is_the_.22SX.22_thing_I_see_on_the_lists_and_IRC_periodically.3F
10:05:36 <warlord> there are a number of reasons that a 2.2 data file couldn't get loaded into 2.0, but SX is the biggest.
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10:12:03 <Phrozen_One> whats Income Account mean in the invoice creator?
10:12:56 <warlord> What kind of income each line-item is.
10:13:21 <Phrozen_One> sorry to be stubborn, but can you provide an example?
10:20:06 <R0lf> warlord: no SXs
10:20:38 <warlord> Income:Sales vs. Income:Widgets vs. Income:<some other reason>
10:23:22 <warlord> R0lf: Hm.. So what's printed on the terminal or in /tmp/gnucash.trace when you try to use 2.0.5?
10:23:32 <warlord> You ARE using 2.0.5, right?
10:23:52 <R0lf> no, 2.0.2
10:24:44 <warlord> AH! Yes, you need to update to 2.0.5.
10:24:50 <warlord> There are known compatibility issues with 2.0.2
10:25:01 <warlord> Update to 2.0.5 and you'll be able to load your files.
10:25:26 <R0lf> OK
10:25:29 <warlord> (besides, 2.0.2 is VERY broken)
10:25:37 <R0lf> I am backporting the gutsy release right now
10:25:48 <R0lf> It should be compiled soon
10:25:51 <warlord> I thought backports.org already had it?
10:26:13 <R0lf> Do they?
10:26:24 <R0lf> there is a version from ubuntu for feisty
10:26:28 <R0lf> But I am still on edgy
10:26:40 <R0lf> But the compilation had already finished.
10:26:51 <R0lf> I will make the upgrade now and see how things go
10:31:33 <warlord> Yes, I'm pretty sure that there was already a backport.
10:38:40 <R0lf> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/g/gnucash/ has it only for feisty
10:38:51 <R0lf> Same for http://packages.ubuntu.com
10:39:20 <warlord> What about backports.org?
10:40:24 <warlord> Phrozen_One: did that answer your question?
10:40:56 <Phrozen_One> warlord, I guess, most of my issues stem from lack of financial record knowledge
10:42:29 <R0lf> warlord: I thought backports.org is for Debian only and that ubuntu was using its own backport repos
10:42:44 <warlord> Phrozen_One: I suggest you read the tutorial from cover to cover.
10:43:11 <warlord> R0lf: I THOUGHT there was a backports.org "equivalent" for Ubuntu. I KNOW that there's a 2.0.5 backport for edgy.
10:43:58 <R0lf> Yes, there is one on my computer ;-)
10:44:07 <R0lf> I will google for the other one.
10:45:04 <warlord> There's an apt-able version out there :-P
10:46:26 <R0lf> Well, it seems to be well hidden
10:46:51 <R0lf> And if it is not on an official or otherwise trustable repo, I rather recompile myself anyhow
10:48:54 <R0lf> warlord: you were right. 2.0.5 does not exhibit the problem
10:48:58 <R0lf> I will close the bug.
10:49:03 <R0lf> Thanks for your help
10:50:26 <warlord> You're welcome.
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11:11:32 <sorush20> how can we raise the profile of our accounting software?
11:12:01 <sorush20> couldn't it be added to the gnome office as an extra package
11:16:44 <warlord> sorush20: why do you think we need to raise the profile?
11:17:02 <sorush20> warlord: we need to get more funds
11:17:15 <warlord> more funds? for what?
11:17:23 <sorush20> for development time
11:17:32 <warlord> You dont understand...
11:17:44 <sorush20> whawt?
11:17:57 <warlord> How much do you think we have in the current gnucash fund?
11:18:12 <sorush20> £20
11:18:15 <warlord> And how much do you think a developer costs?
11:18:26 <sorush20> £100,000
11:19:09 <warlord> Right, so... HOW do you think raising the profile is going to help get us £150,000 per year?
11:19:22 <warlord> (keep in mind that it costs money to administer the funds and pay people)
11:19:40 <warlord> I mean, it would need to SERIOUSLY get raised..
11:19:47 <sorush20> raising the profile will mean new users and new potential donations
11:19:56 <warlord> And I dont think a single developer working full time would put a serious dent into the issue.
11:20:07 <warlord> No, what we really need are more developers to come.
11:20:17 <warlord> I'm not worried about new users.
11:20:37 <warlord> "potential donations" isn't a consistent income stream.
11:20:40 <sorush20> warlord do you develop
11:20:47 <warlord> I did. I dont have time anymore.
11:20:52 <warlord> I wrote all the business features.
11:21:25 <sorush20> I wish I was a developer
11:22:21 <warlord> We have plenty of users. We have plenty of testers.
11:22:42 <warlord> What we dont have are enough people willing to actually produce code.
11:24:22 <sorush20> have your tried setting up societies in univeristies where students can get real life project workexperience on gnucash
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11:28:35 <warlord> how is one supposed to do that?
11:28:55 <warlord> that requires a lot o administrative overhead that we can't support.
11:30:01 <sorush20> how much money dose gnucash rightnow have?
11:30:10 <warlord> About $3000
11:30:13 <warlord> (give or take)
11:30:29 <sorush20> how old are you warlord
11:30:31 <warlord> Generally we use it for our own infrastructure... Like we used it to buy more memory for the gnucash server..
11:30:33 <warlord> 36
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11:30:48 <sorush20> damn
11:30:58 <sorush20> I'm 23
11:31:04 <sorush20> where do you work
11:32:06 <sorush20> do you know C
11:32:11 <warlord> of course.
11:32:13 <R0lf> cool thing
11:32:21 <R0lf> warlord: I am not a developper
11:32:42 <warlord> yeah, we have lots of "not a developer"s around here. :( ;)
11:32:45 <R0lf> But I have a tendency to wrap my head around stuff until I figure it out and solve the problem
11:33:34 <R0lf> Isn't it that gnucash is written in a language not so suitable for people that are not used to it?
11:33:36 <sorush20> warlord: is there any way that your could make enough money for yourself and enough for gnucash
11:33:52 <R0lf> I am not a dev but that does not prevent me from making serious contributions to other projects
11:33:59 <R0lf> including code, if you will
11:35:07 <R0lf> warlord: What is it that gnucash does to encourage devs?
11:35:41 <sorush20> couldn't we advertise gnucash on openoffice.org and gnome office sites?
11:35:53 <warlord> R0lf: that's a common misconception. GnuCash is 80% C. It's about 13% scheme.
11:36:01 <R0lf> OK
11:36:13 <R0lf> It was the scheme part that I was thinking about
11:36:31 <R0lf> Mostly because that is very visible for people trying to customize gnucash
11:36:48 <warlord> Yeah, but it's such a small portion. I think the reason it's such a misconception is that the reporting infrastructure is all in scheme, so whenever someone wants to write a new report they have to do it in scheme.
11:37:16 <warlord> R0lf: Well, that's a good question. I dont think we KNOW what to do to encourage more developers.
11:37:48 <sorush20> warlord: we need to let more people know about it
11:38:02 <R0lf> sorush20: I am not sure that is really the problem
11:38:22 <R0lf> If you are looking for FOSS financial software you will soon hit gnucash
11:38:57 <sorush20> howmany users does gnucash have?
11:38:59 <R0lf> warlord: You think this is something that could be discussed on the mailing list?
11:39:14 * chris raises his eyebrows.
11:39:17 <R0lf> sorush20: If you have been around FOSS long enough you know how silly that question is
11:39:31 <chris> "cuddly"?!
11:39:41 <R0lf> hey chris
11:39:43 <R0lf> cuddly?
11:39:48 <sorush20> how do we get our money ? donations..
11:39:54 <sorush20> right
11:40:12 <R0lf> donations is not the only means
11:40:21 <sorush20> R0lf: what
11:40:29 <sorush20> other means are there?
11:40:30 <R0lf> And the question remains whether this is about money at all
11:40:44 <R0lf> sorush20: The usual suspects
11:40:56 <R0lf> * consulting
11:40:58 <warlord> Yeah, this isn't about money.
11:41:00 <R0lf> * customization
11:41:14 <R0lf> * bounties
11:41:53 <R0lf> warlord: I agree with you for the people already doing work.
11:42:08 <sorush20> what sort of consultation have you guys done recently
11:42:14 <R0lf> Most of them like you won't need the money and will not do more coding even if we throw money at them
11:42:23 <R0lf> sorush20: You were asking in general
11:42:24 <warlord> bounties dont work well because in general the money isn't good enough to encourage people to work. I'm not going to spend a week of my time on something that will only pay me $1000.
11:42:44 <R0lf> sorush20: And don't get me wrong, I am about as uninvolved with gnucash as you are
11:42:50 <R0lf> I just have an interest in it.
11:43:02 <warlord> Or worse... Many of these "bounties" are really a good man-month (or more!) of effort.
11:44:12 <sorush20> How about targeting new businesses with our software
11:44:13 <R0lf> warlord: I know at least of some very high-profile things that reduce the usability of gnucash in a German business context.
11:44:38 <R0lf> Christian estimated something around a day or two worth of effort IIRC
11:44:57 <sorush20> I know when I started up with a small company I was only aware of intuit and sage accounting softwares.
11:45:00 <R0lf> And since this is business context I would assume some would be willing to donate more substantially
11:45:14 <warlord> R0lf: which high-profile things?
11:45:22 * R0lf digs around the mailing list
11:45:43 <R0lf> Something about automatic split bookings, IIRC
11:45:51 <R0lf> At least that would be interesting to me
11:45:59 <R0lf> But AFAIR there were others.
11:47:33 <warlord> "automatic split bookings"? I'm afraid I dont know what that means.
11:50:41 <R0lf> I buy a new TFT for 119€
11:51:43 <R0lf> book: bank 119 an 100 geringwertige Wirtschaftsgueter
11:51:43 <R0lf> an 19 VAT
11:52:13 <R0lf> gnucash calculates the VAT part automatically
11:52:32 <R0lf> In general, there would be quite a few people interested in correct handling of German VAT
11:52:39 <warlord> cstim thinks that's only a day of work? I'm not even sure the right way of doing that!
11:53:14 <R0lf> warlord: Sure, since you are not based in .de and don't understand our overly complicated system
11:53:32 <R0lf> But that is why software like gnucash can be so beneficial
11:53:59 <R0lf> It would be HUGE push forward for gnucash in .de
11:54:32 <warlord> R0lf: I mean, I wouldn't even know the right way to implement that in gnucash.
11:54:53 <R0lf> Yes, I understand
11:55:09 <R0lf> BTW, last discussion of this that I am aware of was in April
11:55:12 <R0lf> ttp://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.apps.gnucash.german/4718
11:55:15 <R0lf> http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.apps.gnucash.german/4718
11:55:15 <warlord> I understand what you need; i just dont know the right way to doing it. I wouldn't call that a "quick change".
11:55:24 <R0lf> Oh, I see
11:55:28 <R0lf> Then ask cstim
11:55:39 <R0lf> He mentioned the needed steps on the ML once
11:55:52 <R0lf> But said he had no time for it and no particular interest
11:56:11 <R0lf> Since he does not seem to be using gnucash for business purposes
11:57:09 <warlord> I dont understand German, so that link isn't useful to me.
11:57:37 <warlord> And cstim certainly hasn't explained on gnucash-devel how one would implement it in the register.
11:57:50 <warlord> So, anyways... What other things are on this short-list?
11:58:47 <sorush20> well it vat is 10% in the .de its 17.5 in .uk so its good in either case
11:59:32 <R0lf> sorush20: From what I hear our system works differently than for example the US which is why there is no such functionality
11:59:50 <R0lf> Who is responsible for paying VAT in the US?
12:00:00 <sorush20> well I use the split accoutn feature to transfer vat to the vat account
12:00:01 <R0lf> The seller/merchant?
12:00:17 <R0lf> sorush20: But it is not automatic, right?
12:00:32 <warlord> Ahh, now I understand chris' "cuddly" comment. That email just hit my inbox. And actually, I DO consider myself quite cuddly. ;)
12:01:22 <R0lf> Is that a private email?
12:01:24 <warlord> In the US, Sales Tax is added on top of the total, not subtracted from it. And not everything it taxable.
12:01:33 <R0lf> Ah, right
12:01:38 * R0lf remembers now
12:01:40 <warlord> Nope, was sent to -devel by Nigel.
12:02:15 <R0lf> In .de as a business you pay and receive VAT
12:02:51 <R0lf> The business acts as the tax collector here.
12:03:02 <R0lf> Business = not only merchants
12:03:27 <sorush20> R0lf: right its manual..
12:03:45 <R0lf> If you buy stuff, you can deduct the VAT that is included in the purchase price.
12:04:00 <warlord> that's not true here in the US.
12:05:06 <R0lf> that is what I heard
12:05:15 <R0lf> warlord: an API to elster (http://www.elster.de) might be nice as well
12:05:42 <R0lf> Although, personally I would consider this less important than automatic VAT
12:06:11 <R0lf> A german business has in most cases report monthly about VAT it has to pay and VAT it wants to deduct
12:06:27 <R0lf> Software support is very important for that.
12:07:01 <warlord> I suspect an API to elster will need to be donated by someone in Germany.
12:07:08 <R0lf> https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-de/2005-May/003095.html
12:07:10 <R0lf> ;-)
12:07:29 <R0lf> If I understand right, Chris has already done it about two years ago
12:07:46 <warlord> R0lf: gnucash-de links do nothing for me; I can't read German.
12:07:53 <R0lf> I would certainly be willing to help with this and getting this right
12:07:57 <R0lf> Sure
12:08:17 <R0lf> But you will understand that this is usually discussed on the German ML
12:08:57 <R0lf> Problem for me is that I am still struggling to understand gnucash in general and how it already fits and does not fit into the German sphere
12:09:45 <R0lf> The general concept of assets, liabilities, equity, etc. is clear
12:10:10 * R0lf gets the feeling this is a communications issue .de -> .us
12:10:16 <warlord> I think any of us would be glad to help guide you
12:10:27 <R0lf> Cool
12:10:28 <warlord> Could be ;)
12:11:12 <R0lf> Frank Ellenberg (sp?) was interested in this as well, made a few attempts it seems and then quit/went into wait state
12:11:30 <warlord> what attempts? I dont recall seeing any patches.
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12:16:09 <R0lf> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=432143
12:16:39 <R0lf> He said he was put off by how things were stalled there after some initial fast progress
12:17:24 <warlord> There's still no patch in there.
12:18:19 <R0lf> no
12:18:52 <warlord> Go read the current discussion going on on -devel
12:23:52 <R0lf> which discussion?
12:24:07 <R0lf> I don't see what you are referring to
12:24:21 <warlord> read the "payment amount must be greater than zero" thread
12:30:33 <R0lf> I am reading now but have not immediately found the parallel
12:30:46 <R0lf> BTW, the split account thing is http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=371581
12:35:41 <warlord> Again, a report without a patch.
12:41:38 <warlord> Sometimes I wonder if mythtv has it right, disallowing enhancement requests from their tracker unless they come with a patch?
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13:07:09 <jsled> warlord: I don't think so. They're still valid enhancement requests, even if the requestor isn't a programmer.
13:08:48 <warlord> jsled: I think the point is that having a place to store enhancement requests is good, but the bug tracker isn't necessarily the right place. *shrugs* I'm not proposing we do that. But it does make it less clear to a casual user why some "bugs" haven't been touched or fixed in years.
13:24:58 <sorush20> guys I'm trying to install a new gnucash package I removed the old one but this is the error I get with trying to install the new one
13:25:07 <sorush20> http://pastebin.com/m72c862fc
13:26:14 <warlord> Looks like a broken package.
13:27:18 <sorush20> warlord: how do I fix the error
13:28:01 <warlord> Get a non-broken package? Talk to the packager.
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14:21:12 <nbinont> hi andi5
14:21:20 <andi5> hi nathan
14:22:08 <nbinont> this binary just keeps getting bigger and bigger ;) 50 mb already!
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14:22:45 <andi5> do you have any idea why this is so? ... did the gnome directory grew so much?
14:22:47 <andi5> grow
14:24:12 <andi5> nbinont: i conclude that you are uploading right now? ;-)
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14:26:26 <nbinont> not sure why, though it might be related to including the Qt stuff
14:26:46 <nbinont> yes...the upload is going as we speak (or type)
14:28:08 <andi5> so the build succeeded and installs just fine for you? ... that is great!
14:28:16 <andi5> i love working systems...
14:28:21 <nbinont> yes, works well
14:28:43 <warlord> :-D
14:29:39 <nbinont> I really like the additional detail you added to the announcement on gnucash.org. It gives people more of an idea as to why they want the latest version
14:30:37 <andi5> thanks... too bad i was not subscribed to gnucash-announce ;-)
14:30:48 <andi5> so if anyone can moderate that email... :-)
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14:38:23 <warlord> andi5: I'll deal.
14:38:30 <andi5> thanks
14:42:30 <warlord> should be fixed for next time.
14:42:54 <andi5> great :)
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15:42:38 <nbinont> windows binary is up
15:42:45 <warlord> Yay
15:43:28 <nbinont> over 300 downloads of the source already..nice
15:47:30 <warlord> cool
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15:47:54 <warlord> Okay, I should stop responding to this "payment amount" thread.
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17:24:01 <xai> how can I re-establish gnucash after loosing all my .gconf and .gnome folders?
17:24:29 <xai> I have the account data, but gc refuses to start because of some missing .gnome stuff.
17:25:48 <xai> I still have a .gnucash directory..
17:26:21 <warlord> what's the actual complaint?
17:29:18 <xai> popup window: the configuration data used to specify default values for GnuCash cannot be found.. etc.
17:29:47 <xai> I get 3 options: quit, skip, setup..
17:30:06 <xai> If I skip, Gc crashes.
17:30:19 <xai> iF i setup, doesn't seem to take.
17:30:30 <warlord> Sounds like you need to reinstall?
17:30:57 <xai> No system files were lost. only user files.
17:31:12 <xai> Only .gnome2 and .gconf related files i think.
17:32:13 <xai> Shoule i backup my .gnucash folder ?
17:34:10 <warlord> well, you should always backup your homedir
17:34:39 <warlord> How did you lose your files? And have you restarted your system since you lost them?
17:35:41 <xai> no, but i just killed gconfd, and that seems to help.
17:35:52 <xai> Its asking me to setup a new account.
17:36:06 <warlord> "it" == ?? "new account" == ??
17:36:32 <jsled> if you don't have the gconf values from before, gnucash will lead you through the "first time" dialog.
17:36:38 <jsled> since it forgot that you've seen it already.
17:36:59 <jsled> It will also forget the path to the last-openend datafile, so you'll need to File > Open... it again.
17:37:14 <jsled> Also, a bunch of Edit > Preferences and other dialog confirmations, of course.
17:37:31 <xai> Ok, gc went throught the new account creation wizard.. That works now..
17:37:46 <xai> I was able to open my old accounts data fine..
17:43:55 <warlord> you could have skipped that.
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18:15:33 <xai> warlord and jsled: thanks..
18:15:42 <warlord> you're welcome
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19:34:19 <blindjesse> question about accounting: i am a contractor paid by the day, get checks weekly. so far have been entering check all at once when i deposit it. perhaps i should enter each specific day?
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19:50:29 <warlord> blindjesse: that's up to you.
19:52:29 <blindjesse> if i do it by each day then would i enter it at the end of every day i work, when i get the check, or when i deposit the check?
19:53:16 <warlord> Again, that's up to you.
19:55:14 <blindjesse> to me it makes sense to do it when i deposit the check but i wonder if it would cause problems if i deposit a check today and enter the transaction as happening on the day i worked
19:56:16 <warlord> I guess it also depends how long you keep the check before you deposit it.
19:56:48 <blindjesse> yeah - sometimes i have a month's worth of checks hanging around before i deposit them
20:00:51 <warlord> Well, you could record them twice.. A/R -> Arrived Checks, and then Arrived Checks -> Checking
20:05:12 <blindjesse> so checking is an asset of course, arrived checks and a/r (what is this?) are both incomes?
20:05:25 <warlord> nope, both are assets.
20:05:32 <warlord> A/R == Accounts Receivable.
20:05:42 <warlord> I skipped the Income -> A/R part.
20:06:42 <blindjesse> ahh i see.
20:07:26 <blindjesse> i think i need to read more about accounts receivable and how it is used...i think this will solve my issue
20:07:45 <blindjesse> which is correctly reporting income under the month it was earned
20:08:02 <warlord> * nods *
20:10:16 <blindjesse> thanks for the help
20:10:22 <warlord> you're welcome.
20:10:30 <warlord> I recommend the Tutorial.. It's very well written
20:13:22 <blindjesse> yeah i went through it but of course skipped parts i didn't think applied to me
20:13:35 <warlord> Heh
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