2007-07-30 GnuCash IRC logs
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07:05:31 <dark> hi all, i'm converting from M$ money 2002 and trying to get a similar mortgage amortization schedule, showing the full remaining payments, and reflecting my previous over-payments
07:06:56 <dark> i believe there is no way to do this, if there is, please point me to it, if not perhaps I will look into helping implement it, as I use that very often to see how much i'm saving by overpaying on my mortgage
07:14:19 <dark> i'm thinking of a helper window, that shows the original amortization vs the one reflecting overpayment, also showing the savings, this could be done for each payment too, showing how much you save if you overpay XX $
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08:27:02 <jsled> dark: the mortgage/loan druid does not support overpayment, no.
08:27:24 <jsled> Yes, the comparison schedules is a good idea, too.
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12:05:16 <warlord> jsled: I wonder how hard it would be to add a 'balance_as_of' function and use that as part of the SX druid for the ppmt/ipmt computations?
12:21:35 <jsled> warlord: for the druid, it can be pretty straightforward.
12:22:15 <warlord> I think if we had support in the druid it would solve 75% of the use cases. (and maybe we can fix the way the druid deals with Escrow, too)
12:22:58 <jsled> Yeah, there's a lot of fixes to make.
12:23:35 <warlord> Yeah.. And probably no time to make them ;)
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18:04:17 <dark> jsled, warlord, thanks for your feedback, i have svn'd the source, but since i'm still getting the hang of using the program, i know it will take me a while to get familiar with the code.
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20:49:45 <Art> Hi there!
20:50:34 <Art> Just imported my financial stuff from Quicken into gnucash, and wanted to ask you guys a couple of questions on reports
20:52:20 <Art> I'm using v2.2.0 for windows. Basically, I'm having issues with build-in budget report
20:53:00 <Art> All it does is just show planned and actual amounts for categories, but there's no summary.
20:53:16 <Art> Can anyone suggest how can I get the summary displayed?
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20:58:46 <warlord> did you set up a bedget?
20:58:50 <warlord> er, budget
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21:03:27 <warlord> maybe you really want another report?
21:13:42 <Art> yeah, I did
21:13:52 <Art> Just set up budget for one month
21:14:06 <Art> And I can see budgeted and real values in the report
21:14:37 <Art> But there's no summary on each category & no overall summary - wich makes report useless
21:14:42 <Art> :(
21:18:57 <warlord> what do you mean "summary on each category"?
21:19:36 <Art> say I have 350$ allocated for Petrol in this month, but I have actually spent only 100$
21:19:55 <Art> so summary should show that I have underspent 250$ on this category
21:26:14 <Art> Is that possible? May be there's a custom report I can download?
21:26:43 <jsled> There is not.
21:26:52 <Art> damn!
21:26:57 <jsled> There aren't really any reports we're aware of that we don't distribute.
21:27:18 <jsled> You can check the report options, but I'm sure if options for such things existed, they'd be enabled by default.
21:27:28 <jsled> That being said, it might be the report just doesn't do what you presume it does.
21:28:04 <Art> I cannot believe I'm the first person who needs such functionality for budgeting....
21:28:32 <jsled> I'm sure you're not.
21:29:50 <warlord> well, there;s the Income Statement, which gives you a summary of what you spent, but it's not tied to budgets.
21:31:02 <Art> Guys, thanks for your help
21:31:29 <Art> Is there a forum or user group on the internet, where I can ask that question?
21:32:01 <jsled> gnucash-user is probably the best forum for such a question.
21:32:37 <Art> Cheers man!
21:32:40 <jsled> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
21:32:41 <jsled> cheers.
21:33:37 <Art> just wondering - is it on google groups?
21:34:03 <jsled> no. it's a traditional mailing list.
21:36:17 <chris> Art: It's true, there's no summarization.
21:36:41 <jsled> ah, the man who would know (and on his vacation, too! :)
21:36:50 <chris> :)
21:37:36 <Art> Thanks guys, have a great time!
21:37:42 <chris> Art, the constraint is that it's possible to budget and post to the parent accounts.
21:37:55 <jsled> chris: so what are you using... screen'ed irc client? dircproxy?
21:38:11 <jsled> vnc/rdesktop?
21:38:12 <chris> dtach
21:38:20 <jsled> oooh. Something new...
21:38:31 <chris> I like it much better than screen.
21:38:34 <Art> chris, sorry, didn't get that
21:39:37 <jsled> Oh, dtach is nifty.
21:39:53 <chris> Art, I'm just saying, some people expect to be able to budget for the parent account in exclusion of the children, so they wouldn't want to see the summary.
21:40:39 <chris> They'd want to see what they budgeted/posted.
21:44:02 <chris> Art, but if you have an idea for how to show both the budget/posted info for the parent accounts, and the summary info, go ahead and send a proposal to -devel.
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22:06:48 <Art> Chris, unfortunatelly I have no idea that is that Schema(?) language used in reports. I suspect it should be a fairly quick fix - just adding one column.
22:07:49 <chris> Art: oh, did you mean a sum over all budget periods? Yes, that could be just an additional column.
22:14:43 <warlord> Art: Scheme
22:16:44 <Art> Chris, not over all budget periods, but for each budget period on the per category basis
22:16:57 <Art> warlord, that's right
22:37:57 <chris> Art: So, are you suggesting an extra column per budget period?
22:38:35 <chris> (or, two actually, right? one for budgeted, one for actual)
22:57:31 <Art> Basically, it should be like that:
22:57:55 <Art> Category________Planned_________Actual
22:58:39 <Art> Petrol__________250$____________100$_______=250-100=150
22:59:09 <Art> for each budget period and category
23:07:00 <chris> Art: I see, I thought you were talking about sums over children accounts.
23:08:39 <chris> Art: I'll take a look at that next time I'm poking around in that report.
23:14:23 <Art> Chris, thanks make, that would be great!
23:15:53 <Art> Another thing - just found that out - for some reason transactions from credit card account are being ignored when calculating "Actuals" in budget report
23:29:33 <Art> sorry man, all good - my fault
23:29:49 <Art> credit card stuff works
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