2007-07-29 GnuCash IRC logs

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02:25:07 <grumo> when entering the income to people put gross income and then put federal tax as an expense or just put the salary after tax?
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07:26:39 <roxlu_> hi there!
07:27:10 <roxlu_> how can I export or print the transaction overview like they are shown in the Checking Assets? (so just a simple table)
07:30:57 <roxlu_> when I try to print an report every text is 'mirrored' ?
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08:10:55 <roxlu_> what account would be suitable for a photo-camera?
08:12:06 <Jaran> Hobby/Photography?
08:12:07 <Jaran> :P
08:12:19 <Jaran> or is it a business camera?
08:12:24 <Jaran> your choice i guess
08:12:27 <Jaran> whatever fits best
08:23:34 <roxlu_> yes it's a business camera
08:24:30 <Jaran> then it's just a tool like a computer etc?
08:25:25 <roxlu_> yes, I've added it to Expensis:Utilities:Electric
08:25:50 <Jaran> :)
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10:12:29 <jsled> roxlu_: Expenses:Utilities:Electic is really for your electric bill.
10:13:35 <jsled> the only real point of the Expense sub-accounts is reporting/analysis fidelity.
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10:14:15 <jsled> So, E:Hobbies:Photography:Equipment:Non-Consumable is as-valid as E:Misc
10:14:38 <jsled> Or "as-suitable", to your question.
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11:18:09 <jsled> chris: pm?
11:18:55 <roxlu_> i've used the business features for invoices. I've split up the amount tht my customers need to pay in a TAX part. Now, when I look at the list of my tax account, all tax is put in the 'credit' column, why?
11:19:35 <warlord> Is this a Customer Invoice or Vendor Bill?
11:19:43 <roxlu_> customer invoice
11:20:59 <warlord> That's correct. It will Debit A/R and Credit Income and your Tax accounts.
11:24:59 <roxlu_> So when I buy somethign, for lets say $100 with $20 tax, I'll see something like: http://paste-it.net/3012
11:27:38 <warlord> That's correct.
11:27:51 <warlord> Because on an invoice it's not tax you PAID, it's tax you COLLECTED.
11:28:11 <roxlu_> ahh of course ... (stupid me)
11:28:44 <roxlu_> warlord: and when I pay my taxes, I go to Checking:Account and create something like: (pasting)
11:29:10 <jsled> warlord: any thoughts on <http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=361604#c7> ? I'm inclined to apply it just because of the quality of the root-cause description.
11:29:21 <roxlu_> http://paste-it.net/3013
11:30:26 <warlord> jsled: yeah, looks right to me.
11:30:48 <warlord> roxlu_: i think so.
11:31:50 <roxlu_> warlord: thanks a lot!
11:32:41 <warlord> :)
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18:08:37 <alessandro> when creating a report barchart some of the account are lumed together in "others" how can I force the report to split that? thanks
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20:13:23 <vendion> I was wondering if anyone here could tell me what is going on with my system, I have GNUcash (version 2.2.0) and GNUcash-docs installed on my system but when I try to open the help pages I get an error saying the documentation on GNUcash on my computer
20:13:54 <jsled> vendion: you got cut off at "on my computer"
20:15:19 <vendion> What do you mean?
20:15:46 <jsled> IRC has a line-length limit. Your utterance terminated at "[...] on my computer".
20:16:51 <vendion> Well "one my computer" is the last that I wrote, I know that IRC has a line-length limit so I was trying to avoid getting cut off
20:17:20 <jsled> Ah. Well, then, I can't parse that sentence.
20:17:30 <jsled> If you run gnucash from a terminal, is there any output?
20:17:39 <jsled> What distro/OS? From where did you obtain gnucash?
20:18:28 <vendion> I am running openSUSE 102, and I got it from the GURU installation source
20:19:45 <vendion> Ok running it from the terminal only prints this "gnc.bin-Message: main: binreloc relocation support was disabled at configure time."
20:21:07 <jsled> Hmm. I recall there was something about the docs on gnucash-user, maybe last month... maybe this month. Heck, maybe even in May.
20:24:09 <vendion> So they are on a seperate package?
20:24:36 <jsled> they?
20:24:43 <vendion> The docs
20:24:50 <jsled> You said you have both gnucash and gnucash-docs installed. Yes, they're a separate package.
20:25:45 <jsled> Well, we distribute them as two tarballs. Some distributions package them as a separate package, some just install them with the standard "package".
20:26:14 <vendion> Well I only see the gnucash, gnucash-devel, gnucash-docs, and gnucash-unstable under the gnucash files
20:28:56 <jsled> vendion: I hope you can figure it out; this really does sound familiar, and I think the solution is in the last few months of gnucash-user mailing list archives. I've got to go, for now. Good luck!
20:29:22 <vendion> ok, thanks to the help
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21:57:02 <esteban> when I try to run gnucash, it dies with ERROR: In procedure substring:
21:57:03 <esteban> ERROR: Argument 3 out of range: -1
21:57:23 <esteban> a little bit after the splash screen appears
21:57:56 <esteban> it looks like it's something slib-related (slib/require.scm anyways)
22:32:00 <jsled> esteban: what distro/OS? what version of gnucash? What version of slib?
22:32:13 <jsled> Why do you think it's slib related? Can you pastebin.ca the error?
22:38:38 <esteban> jsled: I can pastebin the strace
22:40:46 <esteban> http://pastebin.ca/638781
22:46:02 <jsled> slib version? gnucash version? os/distro?
22:56:47 <esteban> 3a4; 2.2.0; slackware 10.2 (I have my reasons, but old libs could be a problem I suppose)
22:57:18 <jsled> slib-3a4 is known to not work, though I'm not sure if this exactly the failure mode.
22:57:21 <jsled> try 3a3 or 3a1.
22:57:25 <esteban> alright
22:57:28 <jsled> what reasons?
22:57:48 <esteban> lack of gnome packages (dropline doesn't count) for one
22:57:56 <jsled> huh?
22:58:25 <esteban> there's no gnome package project for anything newer than 10.2
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22:59:28 <jsled> I'm sorry. What did you mean by "I have my reasons"?
22:59:46 * jsled is confused.
22:59:51 <esteban> for not upgrading to a newer version of slack
22:59:55 <jsled> Ah.
22:59:58 <esteban> at this point
23:00:18 <jsled> I thought you mean "I have my reasons [for continuing to use slackware]" :)
23:00:39 <jsled> meant, even.
23:01:46 <jsled> have you seen <http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Slackware>, plus the relevant comments on <http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/GnuCash>?
23:02:07 <jsled> (which really should be on the former page... /me makes a note to refactorR)
23:02:47 <esteban> nope, but I had to do some as listed on slack 11
23:03:09 <esteban> and I guess I'll try 3a1, not 3a3
23:07:18 <jsled> esteban: I hope that's enough to get you going; I've gotta go afk. Take care; good luck.
23:17:04 <esteban> jsled: thanks... it got further but now it has a nice large backtrace of something else... I'll look into it a bit more
23:24:36 <esteban> woo, got a window thingy... haven't made any accounts yet to fully test it though
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