2007-07-25 GnuCash IRC logs

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03:09:29 <brandon> good day :)
03:13:58 <warlord> good morning.
03:14:10 <warlord> ... or evening. 2:15am here
03:15:37 <Sathamoth> good morning :)
03:15:44 <Sathamoth> 10:15am here
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04:52:13 <Terrahawk> Anyone any idea why the Windows version of 2.2.0 takes ages to start up and then reports an error?
04:52:59 <Terrahawk> waiting for the error... it'll come some time soon
04:55:05 <Terrahawk> "Adding client to server's list failed: CORBA error: IDL:omg.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0"
04:55:17 <Terrahawk> and then everything just doesn't work from there.
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05:10:52 <Sathamoth> 2.2.0 in MacPorts. sweet.
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09:45:28 <roxlu> hi!
09:47:59 <roxlu> I'm a webdeveloper and I was wondering what kind of accounts I need to make. As the websites are not real 'products' which I need to buy, ... i only need to spend time on it
09:48:29 <jsled> Hmm.
09:49:01 <jsled> you seem to be phrasing it in terms of vendors and purchases, but I think you're talking about doing Jobs for Customers, right?
09:49:59 <jsled> roxlu: I'd recommend creating a new datafile, and setting up the customers, jobs and invoices using gnucash's business features. Just some fake, throw-away ones. Look at the resulting structure (accounts, transactions, &c.) that the business subsystem creates.
09:50:00 <roxlu> Jobs? Hmmm I'm not sure if that's the correct term. I'm a freelancer and other companies come to me and ask if I want to create a website.
09:50:22 <roxlu> jsled: do you mean I need to create a "account" Jobs?
09:50:46 <roxlu> (besides the business features)
09:50:51 <jsled> No, I'm using the terms from <http://svn.gnucash.org/docs/guide/chapter_bus_ar.html>.
09:51:02 <roxlu> okay
09:51:12 <jsled> I don't know the details of how those accounts should be structured, frankly.
09:51:38 <jsled> I think if you see how the business features creates the structure and accounts, you should be able to copy the idea over to your own manually-managed datafile.
09:51:47 <roxlu> can you tell me some 'general' accounts or example for companies that provide services?
09:53:01 <roxlu> or doesn't that really matter? Is only the type of acount important?
09:53:19 <jsled> roxlu: File > New > New Account Hierarchy, and look at the "Business Accounts" hierarchy.
09:53:49 <roxlu> Okay thanks!
09:55:10 <roxlu> and a general accounting question what is a bit confusing to me... I've got a bank-account for my company. When I buy something using that account that's not for the company is that 'legal' ? or does the bank-account be synchronised with my 'gnucash file' ?
09:56:11 <jsled> I suggest you talk to an accounting professional, especially regarding questions of "legality".
09:56:23 <roxlu> okay
09:56:27 <jsled> But, generally, a data file = a set of books = a legal entity.
09:57:08 <jsled> So, you model the transactions that affect that entity.
09:57:10 <roxlu> yes, and the bankaccount is important but doesn't have to be an synchronised version of the bank-book
10:00:23 <roxlu> jsled: it would be nice if there was some sort of tutorial for small companies/freelancers
10:01:06 <jsled> roxlu: warlord wrote the business features (and documentation) as and for the sole proprietorship of IHTFP Consulting.
10:02:00 <jsled> Improvements to the documentation – or even a wholly different tutorial document – are welcome. :)
10:02:05 <roxlu> okay; i do think the documentation is good.. but for non-accounting people some things can be quite confusing (especially concrete transactions)
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10:09:48 <roxlu> jsled: do you know any 'big' companies that use gnucash? or is it mostly used by smaller ones?
10:10:55 <jsled> I'd guess mostly smaller companies.
10:11:49 <jsled> I don't think anyone's said they use it for a "large" company.
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10:12:15 <jsled> but my memory for such things isn't very good.
10:12:22 <roxlu> no I was just wondering
10:12:43 <roxlu> I think it's a really good application. it looks nice, fast cross-platform
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13:09:12 <Danny4700> Continuing to have problems with 2.2.0 on XP SP2. Still two gconfd-2.exe and one gnucash-bin.exe processes in task manager.
13:09:34 <warlord> with or without admin privs?
13:10:23 <Danny4700> With admin priv ... OEM OS on my personal notebook
13:11:04 <Danny4700> I tried the 'chcp 1252' as suggested by andi5 to another Windows user on a previous day ... no change there either.
13:11:06 <warlord> How about firewall?
13:11:13 <Danny4700> Firewall is off
13:11:53 <warlord> Hmm. Unfortunately i dont know any more than that. andi would be the man to ask, but as you can see he's not here at the moment.
13:11:58 <warlord> @lastseen andi5
13:11:58 <gncbot> warlord: Error: "lastseen" is not a valid command.
13:12:02 <warlord> @last andi5
13:12:02 <gncbot> warlord: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must match; --nolimit returns (1 more message)
13:12:25 <jsled> @seen last andi5
13:12:25 <gncbot> jsled: (seen last [<channel>]) -- Returns the last thing said in <channel>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
13:12:41 <warlord> @seen andi5
13:12:41 <gncbot> warlord: andi5 was last seen in #gnucash 17 hours, 13 minutes, and 40 seconds ago: <andi5> btw... maybe we need some extension hacking on win32
13:13:03 <jsled> bah. :)
13:13:08 <warlord> Ahh, that's the command. THanks.
13:13:29 <warlord> Danny4700: unfortunately he's not around ..
13:14:08 <Danny4700> OK, thanks. I'll check back occasionally.
13:14:23 <warlord> you might try asking on the -user list.
13:14:33 <warlord> windows is still relatively "new" to gnucash.
13:14:46 <warlord> so there are obviously still a bunch of issues to work out.
13:14:55 <warlord> this is the first windows release, so....
13:15:00 <warlord> it'll hopefully get better over time.
13:15:25 <warlord> contrary to popular belief, there's not "one windows system".. there are many many different flavors, even of "XP"
13:18:50 <Danny4700> Thanks warlord, I'll check the -user list archives too.
13:19:22 <warlord> Danny4700: i doubt htere'll be much in the archives, but go ahead. :)
13:19:43 <jsled> I think just a few instances of this issue, without resolution, yet. :(
13:19:59 <Danny4700> I know what you mean about Windows ... maybe I'll take the plunge on adding a Linux desktop sometime soon ... need more space at my desk.
13:21:08 <warlord> heh
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13:25:22 <roxlu> hi there!
13:25:30 <roxlu> for the application
13:25:38 <roxlu> is it possible to use the nice gui on windows? (like in the tutorial/help file)
13:25:58 <jsled> The nice gui?
13:26:18 <roxlu> in the help file the screenshots look al nice, but on windows it looks a bit 'corny'
13:26:30 <roxlu> I was wondering if I could change that
13:27:39 <jsled> ah. roxlu, see <http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=458567>.
13:28:16 <jsled> AIUI, that gtkrc will be in 2.2.1, which is not yet scheduled.
13:28:45 <roxlu> AIUI?
13:28:49 <jsled> As I Understand It.
13:28:53 <roxlu> ah
13:28:54 <roxlu> haha
13:30:29 <roxlu> yep that did the trick.. it looks much better now
13:31:09 <roxlu> in the documentation they tell me to "post" an invoice, but not how do it this... is there a button or something?
13:32:24 <jsled> It looks like – from <http://svn.gnucash.org/docs/guide/bus-ar-invoices1.html#bus-ar-invoiceedit2> – that it's on the Edit Invoice window, in the toolbar. Almost all toolbar actions correspond to a menu item as well, but I don't know where that'd be.
13:32:56 <warlord> roxlu: yes, there's a button labeled "Post"
13:33:16 <roxlu> ah I'm using the dutch version and the button is translated as "Book"
13:33:30 <roxlu> welll "Boek" to be precise which means "Book" or "process"
13:34:25 <warlord> Well, then..
13:38:38 <roxlu> When I buy "computers" for my company and pay them directly using the bank-account. Do I need to use "Account Payable" or can I directly add a new transaction in my Assets:Checking Account?
13:41:18 <warlord> You can just add a txn directly.
13:42:17 <roxlu> Okay... slowly I'm understanding it
13:51:22 <roxlu> why are there, for example on the "process payment" form text inputs which can't be used? They are not disabled but I can't enter any data
13:52:16 <warlord> such as...??
13:52:48 <roxlu> such as the "Customer" field, "Invoice field", etc..
13:52:56 <roxlu> oh sorry, only those two
13:53:55 <warlord> Notice the "select" button..
13:54:18 <roxlu> yes I see, but it would be better to disable the text entry when it actually is 'disabled'
13:55:07 <warlord> it's not disabled.
13:55:24 <roxlu> but I can't type anything in it
13:55:35 <warlord> you're not supposed to type anything in it.
13:55:47 <warlord> but if it's 'disabled' you can't cut-and-paste out of it, either.
13:56:09 <roxlu> warlord: I suggest you disable it untill the user selected a customer/invoice
13:56:29 <warlord> send in a patch
13:56:37 <roxlu> qua usability that would be better because I supposed I could type somethign into it and that it was automatically filled in
13:56:52 <warlord> See bug# mumble.
13:57:01 <warlord> (there's a bug about that latter part)
13:57:21 <roxlu> I only want to help you know; I've studied usability so therefore I wanted to tell yo
13:57:53 <warlord> yes... and in the end we DO want a phrase-wheel style. Nobody has written the code for it.
13:58:18 <roxlu> Ah okay. I heard you are one of the main developers?
13:58:23 <warlord> Yeah.
13:58:30 <warlord> (moving rooms, I might lose network)
13:58:49 <roxlu> well it's a wonderfull app!
13:59:47 <roxlu> the field "tax" in an invoice; I've added a entry to the tax table, but in the tax-report it tells me to select a tax-account
14:00:14 <roxlu> Is that normal? do I need to do it 'twice' ?
14:04:02 <warlord> "tax report"?
14:04:44 <roxlu> I've got the dutch version but it's in the menu "Reports"
14:04:56 <roxlu> The 3rd from the top
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14:07:15 <warlord> Oh, Tax Report & TXF Output?
14:08:01 <warlord> Yes, you have to mark the accounts as tax separately from creating tax tables.
14:08:07 <roxlu> okay
14:08:14 <roxlu> Why is that?
14:09:42 <warlord> Good question.
14:09:46 <roxlu> hah okay
14:10:54 <warlord> I suppose that using an account in a tax table could automatically mark the account as tax-related. But I dont know what other tax-related information to do. I mean, it COULD set the boolean flag.. But is that always right? Note that someone could use tax-tables to do things other than just taxes.
14:11:57 <roxlu> yes indeed, it would be a good thing to add in the docmentation
14:13:40 <warlord> File and RFE or, better yet, send in a patch to the docs. ;)
14:13:48 <warlord> er, file AN RFE..
14:14:39 <roxlu> warlord: untill now, I used just an excell sheet to keep my bookings. Now I want to put all this into gnucash. Can I just add invoices I created between januari-NOW ?
14:15:01 <roxlu> so I first create a invoices and directly a payment?
14:16:59 <warlord> roxlu: if you dont have any outstanding (unpaid) invoices from before january then sure.. Or you can just ignore all your paid invoices and only start with the unpaid invoices and go forward.
14:17:58 <roxlu> ok. Thanks I'll do the first
14:20:05 <roxlu> And there is a Assets:CurrentAssets:Checking account, can I use that to register payments? or is it wise to make a new one, something like "Bank MyCompany" ?
14:20:39 <roxlu> or.. maybe.... I work together with a friend, I could add two sub-accounts one for me and one for my friend, right?
14:20:47 <warlord> That's up to you. If you have multiple bank accounts you might want to do that.
14:21:04 <warlord> what do you mean by "with a friend"?
14:21:14 <roxlu> I've got a small company with a friend
14:21:36 <roxlu> we create websites and divide the per project
14:22:08 <roxlu> someting like 20% for the company, 40% for me and 40% for him.
14:22:57 <warlord> * ponders *
14:23:10 <warlord> Does it depend on who does the actual work?
14:23:21 <roxlu> well.. normally yes
14:23:34 <roxlu> or mostly
14:25:20 <roxlu> why?
14:25:44 <warlord> Well, for the cases where it doesn't depend on who does the work you don't really need to keep track of who did it.. Just consider the 20/40/40 split as a 40/40 "salary" to each of you
14:27:09 <roxlu> yes, is there a way to automate this? so where I tell a splitted transaction to divide the income based on percentages?
14:32:49 <warlord> You should probably talk to a real accountant about that.
14:32:55 <roxlu> ok
14:33:47 <warlord> Um, the only places where you can do that is via SX or Invoice/Bill+TaxTable
14:34:19 <roxlu> ok
14:34:32 <warlord> Or you can manually do the math.. Well, manually enter the numbers and let gnucash do the math. E.g., you can say "1234 * .4" in a DebCred column.
14:35:31 <roxlu> in the "Account Receivable" register I see 6 rows and one row with: "Assets:Accoutns:Receivable" with a value of "0.60" though I never entered someting like that
14:36:13 <warlord> Maybe an over-payment?
14:36:40 <warlord> gnucash adds additional transactions to map payments to invoices..
14:36:47 <roxlu> No they paid the correct amount; but I see lots of strange extra rows
14:37:56 <roxlu> oh damn..sorry
14:37:58 <warlord> were all invoices for a customer paid in full in order?
14:38:02 <roxlu> it was an over-payment.. how did you know?
14:38:19 <warlord> I wrote the code.
14:38:22 <roxlu> haha
14:38:25 <warlord> I know how it works.
14:38:55 <roxlu> so how is that handled, because it adds 2 rows?
14:42:10 <warlord> It adds a new transaction from A/R to A/R that moves the money from one Lot to another.
14:42:31 <warlord> IDEALLY it would just do this by adding addition Splits to the original transaction to do the lot migration.
14:46:41 <roxlu> When I undo a "post" are all transactions also removed when I click "ok" in the popup?
14:49:00 <warlord> No, the adjustment transactions are NOT removed, which is why invoices sometimes dont get properly marked as paid.
14:49:12 <roxlu> ok
14:53:58 <roxlu> so "Invoice" in the Account/R column "Ref" means that the invoice is sent to the client and I'm waiting for the payment/
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14:58:05 <ox> hi - can I do an expense reimbursement report with gnucash like expensable?
14:58:15 <roxlu> warlord: I clicked on "new invoice" and than cancelled/removed it, though it's still there.. can I remove it permanently?
14:58:44 <warlord> roxlu: no, it means that that entry came from an invoice.
14:59:11 <roxlu> no I mean in a 'invoice tab' .. I didn't book it
14:59:13 <warlord> roxlu: clicking on "new invoice" doesn't create the invoice until you click "ok".
14:59:29 <roxlu> ah and after I press the "OK" button it can't be removed anymore?
14:59:33 <warlord> BUT.. once you click "OK" and it opens up the invoice window with the invoice register, no, you cannot delete it.
15:00:05 <roxlu> but what if I make a mistake or something? for example the date
15:00:35 <warlord> Change it.
15:00:41 <warlord> Click "Edit"
15:00:45 <roxlu> it was disabled.
15:03:00 <roxlu> but I can imagine I create a 'incorrect' invoice sometime.. is this a problem?
15:03:12 <warlord> Define "incorrect"
15:03:25 <roxlu> I don't maybe I was testing to create a new invoce
15:05:45 <roxlu> warlord: for example, now I have to invoices with the same number
15:05:47 <warlord> Just reuse it.
15:05:57 <roxlu> I can't change the invoice number somehow
15:05:59 <warlord> Well, gnucash doesn't care. but go and change it.
15:06:03 <warlord> Sure you can. Click "Edit"
15:06:13 <roxlu> AAHH like that
15:06:31 <roxlu> why is the other field disabled?
15:07:44 <warlord> which "other" field?
15:08:12 <roxlu> in a invoice tab, there is an entry for the invoice number. That one can't be changed.
15:08:17 <warlord> Right.
15:08:26 <roxlu> I was trying that :-)
15:08:33 <warlord> Well that was dumb of you ;)
15:08:41 <warlord> It shouldn't let you type into it.
15:08:57 <roxlu> yes this is the same thing as I mentioned earlier
15:09:11 <warlord> And as I said, if I disable that you can't cut-and-paste.
15:09:20 <roxlu> Is it possible to change the date "booked" (2nd date field on the invoice tab? )
15:09:23 <warlord> I considered cut-and-paste more important
15:09:23 <roxlu> yes
15:09:52 <roxlu> yes; maybe you can change the background color to gray
15:10:02 <roxlu> and leave the text "black"
15:10:06 <warlord> Send in a patch.
15:10:10 <roxlu> yes i'll
15:10:19 <roxlu> ybut
15:10:22 <roxlu> Is it possible to change the date "booked" (2nd date field on the invoice tab? )
15:10:44 <warlord> "Date booked"? What's the real english label?
15:10:56 <roxlu> I'm filling my file, with the invoices from januari (no not the real english label. I'll look it up)
15:11:16 <warlord> I think that date is set when you post the invoice, and you can set the date in the "post" dialog.
15:11:44 <roxlu> ahh. ok so I need to get the invoice "back" bacause I alrady posted it
15:12:33 <warlord> unpost and repost immediately should be perfectly safe.
15:12:54 <roxlu> ok thanks! My first invoice is there! (in A/R) .. now the payment
15:18:13 <warlord> ok
15:19:25 <roxlu> wow very nice! I made some mistakes with the dates in the previous version
15:40:09 <roxlu> warlord: what do I need to do when a company pays me 20 or 60 cents to much/
15:40:39 <warlord> Nothing; just record what they paid you. gnucash will apply it to the next invoice.
15:40:56 <roxlu> yes but I mean, do I need to send the money back to the company?
15:40:58 <warlord> Just print out a Customer Report along with the next invoice and it'll show the $0.60
15:41:07 <warlord> That's up to you
15:41:10 <roxlu> okay
15:41:23 <warlord> Is it worth a 40c stamp to send back 60c?
15:41:38 <warlord> moving locations again... BIAB
15:41:45 <roxlu> okay
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15:51:22 <roxlu> warlord: I selected the incorrect account for a payment... can I undo that?
15:52:54 <roxlu> or someone else? I selected "Assets:Current Assets, but I wanted to select: Assets:Current Assets:Checking Account
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15:54:00 <warlord> just change it in the register.
15:54:01 <warlord> (that's the ONE and ONLY thing you can change from the register -- the payment account)
15:54:23 <roxlu> not from that one .. I got a popup that it's only readable
15:54:31 <roxlu> I've deleted it though
15:55:07 <roxlu> that's not a problem right? I can just add a new payment
15:55:31 <warlord> correct
15:56:18 <roxlu> pfew
16:16:35 <roxlu> it crashed :-(
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16:18:34 <roxlu> but it makes lots of backups thats nice
16:20:13 <warlord> Yep, it does.
16:20:30 <roxlu> does it make a file every time I save it?
16:20:55 * roxlu had another crash
16:21:41 <roxlu> it crashes when I select "new job" and than select a client.
16:22:04 <warlord> Repeatably?
16:23:23 <roxlu> well twice .. I was clicking very quickly
16:23:32 <roxlu> when I do it slowly it doesn't crash
16:29:28 <warlord> could be a race condition somewhere.
16:32:06 <roxlu> ok
16:32:50 <roxlu> and another strange thing... I've created an invoice for lets say 1000 euro. now I want to process a payment, and select the invoice and the "price/amount" is 998.39 or something (not the same)
16:33:39 <warlord> That implies there was a prepayment.
16:33:51 <roxlu> ahh that the 60 cents
16:33:58 <warlord> :-D
16:34:31 <roxlu> yes the difference is exactly 60 cents
16:35:06 <roxlu> I need to fill in the amount I got on my bank account right?
16:41:35 <warlord> Um... maybe?
16:45:09 <roxlu> yeah..
16:47:15 <roxlu> nice I'm almost done!
16:52:29 <warlord> ok
16:55:47 <roxlu> warlord: gnucash also crashes when I in fill in "2406" and than press tab, in the date field of a new invoice.
16:57:07 <warlord> Repeatably?
16:57:15 <warlord> (what is "2406" supposed to mean?)
16:58:34 <roxlu> yes repeatably; and I was entering the dates like 24-06[tab] it fill in the rest. though I tried 2406 which crashes
17:00:43 <warlord> Huh. I cant reproduce that on 2.0-branch on linux.
17:01:18 <warlord> Does it crash in a normal register, too, or only in an invoice register?
17:01:24 <warlord> "normal" == "account"
17:02:14 <roxlu> it crashes when I select 'new invoice', than in the new window I type: 2406 in the date field and press tab. so: 2406[tab]
17:04:42 <roxlu> warlord: now I want to put all the things I bought (like books, pencils, etc.) into the registers. Therefore I just go to my Assets:Checking account and create a new transaction for each bought item right? (i bought everyting using my company-bank account)
17:05:30 <jsled> For each transaction.
17:05:46 <warlord> Hmm, doing that on 2.0-branch results in a GTK Critical message but it doesn't crash gnucash.
17:05:53 <warlord> (gnucash:8695): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_calendar_select_month: assertion `month <= 11' failed
17:05:59 <roxlu> oh on windows it doesn :-)
17:06:23 <warlord> note that this is 2.0.. let me try the 2.2 code.
17:06:29 <roxlu> ok
17:06:53 <roxlu> When I bought something using my personal bank account, for the company; how do I administrate this?
17:07:40 <warlord> Nope, works fine for me on Linux.. But keep in mind that "2406" isn't correct here because I'm in the US.
17:07:59 <warlord> roxlu: depends. do you plan for the company to pay you back?
17:08:28 <roxlu> yes eventually
17:09:12 <roxlu> My company bank-card was broken a couple of weeks so I had to use my own private bank-account
17:09:20 <roxlu> and some cash
17:10:29 <warlord> Well... You can record it as an Employee Expense under business. Or just record it as a Liability:To Me
17:11:09 <roxlu> ok, what do you use? or what do yo advice?
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17:12:30 <roxlu> For me it looks correct to create a new sub account under Liabilities:Employees Expense:[myname] ?
17:14:35 <roxlu> warlord: would that be a good idea/
17:14:46 <warlord> I try very hard not to pay for business things with my personal card.
17:14:58 <roxlu> yeah, I know
17:14:59 <warlord> But when I do... it depends. Sometimes I'll use the Expense Voucher.
17:15:13 <warlord> Sometimes I'll just use Equity:Capital Withdrawal
17:15:37 <roxlu> okay, but what about my suggestion?
17:16:37 <warlord> that works too if you want to do it manually instead of using the business function
17:17:18 <roxlu> nice :-) and when I buy something for private usage using my bank account, how do I administrate that?
17:17:47 <warlord> use your personal datafile, not your business datafile.
17:18:16 <roxlu> but I used the companies bank account to pay for it
17:18:34 <warlord> Oh!
17:18:54 <roxlu> i know.... :$
17:19:07 <warlord> Well, you could use EQ:Capital Withdrawal or if you plan to pay back the company just use a negative liability
17:19:28 <roxlu> huh? negative liability?
17:20:00 <warlord> yes
17:20:11 <warlord> Asset == -L
17:20:39 <roxlu> so like: Liability:Employes:To Me and use -[amount] ?
17:20:47 <warlord> right
17:21:24 <roxlu> okay and than when I pay it back I do: Bank +[amount] and select Liabil.:Empl.:To Me ?
17:21:36 <warlord> right
17:21:58 <roxlu> ok nice
17:22:46 <roxlu> thanks!
17:23:55 <roxlu> and what about the TAX, when I paid something using my private bank account? (or the other way around)
17:26:23 <warlord> what about the tax?
17:26:31 <roxlu> how do I book that?
17:26:43 <warlord> the same way you'd book it anywhere else.
17:26:44 <warlord> as a split
17:26:49 <roxlu> O I need .. yes
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17:30:56 <roxlu> so when I buy something for: 10euro, where 2euro is tax. I add 10,- on the right side of my checkings-account; 8 on the left side for office-supplies and 2 on the left side for tax right?
17:34:00 <warlord> right
17:34:43 <roxlu> yehoo nice! and the value in the balance column will be negative and red because its an expense
17:35:09 <jsled> no, it'll be negative and red because it's negative.
17:35:24 <roxlu> okay
17:36:00 <warlord> heh
17:36:02 <jsled> If you had an opening balance of €1000 and only spent €500, it'd still be positive/black
17:36:26 <roxlu> okay, and indeed this was the first thing that happened with the my 'balance'
17:37:30 <roxlu> ahhhh
17:37:33 <roxlu> another issue...
17:39:25 <roxlu> A while ago I bought a book, but I had a present ... don't know the english word, but a coupon of 15euro for my birthday. I bought the book for 10euro. I probably wasn't allowed to put it in one of my company registers, right?
17:47:23 <roxlu> aint there a channel about things like this?
17:48:40 <warlord> maybe somewhere
17:49:17 <roxlu> warlord: do you maybe want to help me with a couple of questions?
17:50:18 <warlord> Can't right now -- about to head into my plenary session.
17:50:30 <roxlu> ah okay
17:50:46 <roxlu> jsled: you maybe? i've got some questions about common scenario's
17:52:17 <warlord> roxlu: Have you tired the FAQ and the Docs?
17:52:28 <roxlu> yes
17:52:36 <roxlu> not the FAQ; i'll read it now
17:56:06 <roxlu> what is "browing"?
17:56:55 <jsled> roxlu: hmm?
17:57:10 <roxlu> this: http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/FAQ#Q:_How_do_I_account_for_loaning.2Fbrowing_money_to.2Ffrom_a_friend.3F
17:57:20 <jsled> A tyop for "borrowing"; /me corrects.
17:57:34 <roxlu> ah okay :-)
18:00:27 <roxlu> jsled: do you have time for a couple of questions?
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23:06:40 <TimmyT> hello
23:14:08 <TimmyT> This may be a silly question, but gconfd-2 often calls out to the internet to a couple ip addresses when I start gnucash
23:14:33 <TimmyT> if I deny them on my firewall the app has the occassion to not start, seems 50/50
23:15:44 <TimmyT> can anyone explain to me the dependency and if I'm being over precautious? I am on Windows XP, and I get the same thing with 2.15 and 2.2
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23:56:45 <brandon> that's a good question
23:56:46 <brandon> from timmyt