2007-07-23 GnuCash IRC logs

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00:30:04 <blahdeblah> I was just sitting with a friend who's an accountant - she was helping us get our small business accounts sorted out with GnuCash.
00:30:31 <blahdeblah> She had never seen GnuCash before, and was very impressed at how easy it was to use, and how flexible it was to set up accounts to our liking.
00:30:40 <blahdeblah> Yay for Free Software! :-)
00:31:38 <blahdeblah> Anyway - thanks for the great job you guys do on the software. It makes my life much easier!
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03:19:21 <AlonzoTG> Hi.
03:19:21 <gncbot> AlonzoTG: Sent 15 weeks, 2 days, 9 hours, and 3 minutes ago: <warlord> The Description column always auto-fills to make the register fill the whole window. You can NEVER reduce that column smaller, because it will always auto-fill to fill the window. So to reduce the description column you need to increase other columns first.
03:19:22 <gncbot> AlonzoTG: Sent 15 weeks, 2 days, 9 hours, and 3 minutes ago: <warlord> And it's rude to leave the channel so quickly when someone is still trying to explain to you what the heck is going on!
03:19:57 <AlonzoTG> ANyone here/
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06:09:41 <blahdeblah> How can i manually mark an invoice as paid?
06:11:08 <blahdeblah> I usually do this by deleting the payment, unposting the invoice, and reposting it. However in one case, the payment transaction has been reconciled, and i don't want to mess that up.
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08:19:56 <warlord> blahdeblah: There is no way to manually set it as paid.. It sounds like you're pre-paying it and it's not getting set. Is this a vendor bill or customer invoice?
08:24:24 <warlord> AlonzoTG: it's unlikely someone will be here at 3am US/EDT.
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08:53:33 <smueller> hi there
08:53:46 <smueller> i'm evaluating gnucash for a small office
08:54:01 <smueller> so i have some questions.
08:54:16 <smueller> can gnucash handel more then one company?
08:55:04 <smueller> and can gnucash being installt onto a server?
08:55:16 <warlord> smueller: of course; you can have as many data files as you want.
08:55:41 <smueller> warlord so i can set the data file path to a server
08:55:47 <smueller> right?
08:56:03 <warlord> define "server". You can point it to any file.
08:56:21 <warlord> (the file can reside on a file server)
08:56:32 <smueller> warlord: that's what i mean
08:56:40 <Jaran|zZzZZz> i guess it's important to mention here that no two clients can access a data file concurrently?
08:56:50 <Jaran|zZzZZz> at least not both writing
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08:56:53 <warlord> Jaran|zZzZZz: THAT is true.
08:57:09 <warlord> only one gnucash app can be working on a datafile at a time.
08:57:10 <Jaran> i guess that is what smueller wanted to know
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08:57:38 <smueller> that's all i wanted to know
08:57:51 <warlord> maybe, but that's not what he asked. He said "more than one company", not "multiple users working together on the same datafile".
08:58:10 <warlord> The former is completely reasonable. The latter isn't easy -- access has to be serialized.
08:58:46 <Jaran> indeed that isn't easy. but when he mentioned "server" it set some bells ringing ;)
08:58:59 <smueller> ok. i can have more then one data file and only one gnucash app can access a datafile.
08:59:06 <Jaran> yupp
08:59:16 <smueller> Jaran: i mean file server. just for backup
08:59:38 <smueller> So. I'm gonna check gnucash.
08:59:43 <smueller> where are the datafiles?
08:59:54 <warlord> they are wherever you put them
08:59:56 <Jaran> whereever you create them :P
09:00:17 <smueller> Ok. It's my fault. THX
09:02:39 <smueller> Just one final question. It is possible to customize documents such as bill as I want to. Right?
09:03:43 <warlord> To some small extent, yes.
09:04:07 <warlord> BUt you can't change the complete layout of invoices.
09:05:33 <smueller> OK. I'll have a close look at it.
09:05:41 <smueller> THX warlord for your help.
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11:17:29 <AlonzoTG> I have a question!
11:18:14 <Jaran> read topic ;)
11:18:19 <Jaran> ask and wait
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11:28:57 <AlonzoTG> :(
11:29:04 <AlonzoTG> I am AlonzoTG, remember me?
11:29:30 <AlonzoTG> People used to be angry with me. :(
11:29:36 <AlonzoTG> In this channel.
11:30:10 <AlonzoTG> I want the logs on the Internet of my in gnucash removed under DMCA!
11:30:12 <Jaran> i remember no one, i'm new in this channel too :P started using gnucash 3 days ago
11:30:27 <AlonzoTG> Okay.
11:30:27 <Jaran> lol
11:30:33 <Jaran> i'm no admin here
11:30:33 <AlonzoTG> Do you like gnucash?
11:30:34 <Jaran> but
11:30:43 <Jaran> the topic says clearly that everything is logged
11:30:51 <AlonzoTG> Okay.
11:30:58 * AlonzoTG has considered gnucash
11:31:08 <Jaran> AlonzoTG using irc.acc.umu.se GIMPnet Swede-Powered IRC Server
11:31:12 <Jaran> you're using a swedish server
11:31:17 <Jaran> the DMCA is not applicable there
11:31:18 <Jaran> :P
11:31:29 <AlonzoTG> Does gnucash have asset management?
11:32:25 <jsled> you can record the value of assets. You can manually depreciate them.
11:32:27 <Jaran> uhm well... use an asset account :P
11:32:41 <jsled> There's no inventory support.
11:38:13 <AlonzoTG> So gnucash is pretty much just regular accounting like I do in my journal and my ledger forms that I use except that I type instead of write and maybe it checks that debits and credits equal?
11:38:54 <Jaran> if you add reporting, customer, vendor and employee-management...
11:39:07 <Jaran> and all the rest.. :P
11:39:12 <Jaran> yes then it is just that
11:40:09 <warlord> heh
11:42:29 <Jaran> is bugzilla.gnome.org a bit on the fritz today? or is it just me?
11:43:27 <warlord> Jaran: it's apparently been on the fritz for a few days now. :(
11:43:38 <Jaran> :(
11:43:50 <Jaran> ah well, i managed to file a bug nevertheless >:)
11:44:01 <warlord> Oh, good!
11:45:26 <Jaran> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=459493 btw :P
11:45:44 <Jaran> we talked about that yesterday actually
11:46:07 <warlord> Ah, that one.
11:46:39 <Jaran> it's the only thing that buggers me with gnucash right now :P
11:47:06 <warlord> Hey, if that's the ONLY thing then we're doing pretty well!
11:47:08 <Jaran> cause i usually add transactions ahead of time to see how much money is/will be on the accounts
11:47:16 <Jaran> lol
11:47:18 <Jaran> you do :P
11:47:33 <warlord> :-)
11:47:41 <Jaran> ok, it would rock if you could port it to Java, cause then i could contribute so much more ;)
11:47:51 * Jaran hides
11:48:42 <warlord> Jaran: http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/FAQ#Q:_Why_don.27t_you_rewrite_GnuCash_in_programming_language_xyz_so_that_I_can_contribute_easily.3F
11:48:50 <Jaran> i know i know
11:48:54 <Jaran> that's why i hid for!
11:51:11 <warlord> heh
12:35:06 <warlord> Okay, lunchtime. Back later.
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13:23:17 <sluser> greetings, anyone here installed gnucash 2.2.0 on RHEL5 or SL5?
13:23:42 <sluser> I'm stuck on trying to find goffice
13:26:32 <jsled> I wonder if the <http://people.redhat.com/notting/gnucash/2.0/RHEL-4/SRPMS/> gnucash-2.0.1 srpm might be useful to you?
13:26:46 <jsled> In terms of identifying the goffice package.
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13:39:57 <blahdeblah> warlord: Re: blahdeblah: There is no way to manually set it as paid.. It sounds like you're pre-paying it and it's not getting set. Is this a vendor bill or customer invoice?"
13:40:06 <blahdeblah> It's a customer invoice.
13:40:29 <Jaran> warlord is having lunch ;)
13:40:35 <blahdeblah> np.
13:40:37 <blahdeblah> I can wait
13:40:43 <Jaran> repost when he's back
13:40:53 <blahdeblah> OK
13:47:03 <jsled> he'll probably see it. or you can ask gncbot to deliver the message.
13:49:14 <jsled> gncbot: list
13:49:14 <gncbot> jsled: Admin, AutoMode, Channel, ChannelLogger, Config, Later, Misc, Owner, Seen, and User
13:49:18 <jsled> gncbot: list admin
13:49:18 <gncbot> jsled: capability add, capability remove, channels, ignore add, ignore list, ignore remove, join, nick, and part
13:49:37 <jsled> But the form you want is: "gncbot: tell warlord «message»"
13:49:44 <blahdeblah> thanks
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20:43:44 <warlord> * waves from Chicago *
20:43:44 <gncbot> warlord: Sent 6 hours and 52 minutes ago: <blahdeblah> Re: <blahdeblah: There is no way to manually set it as paid.. It sounds like you're pre-paying it and it's not getting set. Is this a vendor bill or customer invoice?> It's a customer invoice. The problem is not that i'm pre-paying it, but that i made a mistake on the invoice and need to re-post it after it has been paid.
20:44:42 <warlord> blahdeblah: what kind of mistake? Are there additional invoices you made after this one? Did the value on the invoice change?
20:51:30 <warlord> If all you do is take a posted/paid invoice, unpost it, and repost it (even with minor changes) then it should remain paid.
20:52:04 <warlord> But that's NOT necessarily the case if you have additional payments or additional unpaid invoices for that customer.
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20:58:41 <warlord> Sorry, gotta run to dinner. Be back later.
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