2007-06-25 GnuCash IRC logs
00:00:32 <warlord> duck: well, either that will get shown in your Income Statement or Balance Sheet.. Unless you manually close out your Income/Expense accounts and add zero-ing splits to some Equity:Retained Earnings account
00:00:42 <warlord> But generally you dont have to do that if.
00:01:48 <duck> yeahm the latter seems more complicated
00:01:55 <warlord> It's certainly a lot more work.
00:02:35 <Art_> warlord: I have quite a bit of RAM, don't remember off hand but probably 2GB. I'll try strace. Thanks!
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00:19:54 <duck> so warlord, the retained losses will go to ?
00:21:58 <duck> warlord, i tried to open new account under equity heading, named capital deposit, strange enough that i cannot fill in the amount ??
00:22:22 <duck> fill in the opening balance
00:23:07 <duck> my understanding is that equity get automatically summed of transfer from other account, namely assets, bank, cash
00:23:44 <duck> it alone cannot be credited, must be transfer from other account, is this rite?
00:25:35 <duck> fyi. i'm using windows xp version og gnucash
00:26:09 <duck> :-?
00:29:54 <warlord> There is no Opening Balance to an Equity Account... Equity is always a Source/Sink for a transaction to somewhere else. E.g. Eq:Capital -> Assets:Checking
00:32:04 <duck> there's no capital parent account ? i cannot find that
00:33:04 <duck> or you mean i can put it under asset parent , with account name capital deposit?
00:33:28 <duck> that should tally with equities , i mean after deducted with retained losses?!?
00:40:25 <duck> warlord, r u still there?
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00:51:24 <warlord> duck: <warlord> There is no Opening Balance to an Equity Account... Equity is always a Source/Sink for a transaction to somewhere else. E.g. Eq:Capital -> Assets:Checking
00:54:27 <warlord> If you WANTED a capital parent account you could create Equity:Capital:{X,Y,Z}, but do you really need to differentiate different types/sources of capital?
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11:39:10 <bonez44> how does gnucash work with tax software? Once i have gnucash set up with all my accounts...can I easily export the data to be incorporated into TurboTax?
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11:41:43 <warlord> You can run a tax report that will output a TXF that you can import into TurboTax. YMMV (I've never tried it)
11:43:45 <andi5> warlord: sorry, i did not have the time to complete the entity/instance_get_guid fix... going to do that now
11:43:51 <warlord> andi5: okay.
11:43:58 <warlord> Just wanted to make sure it got done.
11:44:05 <andi5> yep
11:45:14 <warlord> Thanks!
11:54:39 <andi5> warlord: http://pastebin.ca/raw/588550 is what i am currently testing....
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11:56:24 <andi5> whenever there was qof_entity_get_guid(ent) and ent->whatever, i made sure ent was non-NULL, i.e. i added a few g_return_if_fail(ent)'s... so not all instance_get_guid's got reverted
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12:09:40 <warlord> andi5: I'll take a look.
12:11:44 <warlord> andi5: qof_entity_get_guid() should return guid_null(), not NULL
12:11:57 <andi5> oops, yes of course
12:12:05 <andi5> i just saw the crash
12:12:24 <andi5> (never rewrite code without thinking :))
12:12:33 <warlord> Heh
12:16:09 <andi5> shall i commit?
12:21:22 <chris> [ot] Is it possible to get readline-like history retrieval from within an emacs inferior shell?
12:21:53 <andi5> you mean Ctrl+Up?
12:24:12 <warlord> andi5: I'm still proofing, but sure.
12:24:19 <chris> andi5: well, I guess what I'm really missing is the command-completion from the history ring buffer when typing the first few characters.
12:25:28 <chris> as in reverse-i-search, but showing the completion so-far.
12:26:10 <andi5> chris: so in a normal shell, you mean Ctrl-R ema showing emacs?
12:27:11 <chris> andi5: right, that's the way my bash works, and I'm wondering if I can get an inferior shell to do the same.
12:27:22 <andi5> yep, sorry for being a bit slow today :)
12:30:25 <chris> or, alternatively, is there some other way of getting visible completion from commands only, in an inferior shell?
12:31:07 <chris> I guess I've unconsciously become quite atttached to readline's behavior.
12:34:14 <warlord> Ah, it's Ctrl-R in bash!! I'm using to using Ctrl-P (for "Previous")..
12:34:22 <warlord> (and Ctrl-N)
12:34:24 <warlord> But.. I use tcsh
12:35:44 <andi5> chris: comint-backward-matching-input seems to work, but well...
12:38:12 <andi5> or comint-previous-matching-input (M-r)
12:39:01 <chris> I can't tell how those two differ, but more importantly, neither one shows me the input that matches the expression so far.
12:39:24 <andi5> yep... that is a pity...
12:42:10 <andi5> chris: have you tried ansi-term?
12:43:18 <chris> andi5: no, what is it?
12:43:51 <warlord> andi5: in qofquerycore.c: the guid_malloc() is a memory leak.
12:43:54 <andi5> """ansi-term is an interactive compiled Lisp function in `term.el'. [...] Start a terminal-emulator in a new buffer."""
12:44:02 <warlord> guid = guid_malloc();
12:44:02 <warlord> - guid = (GUID*)qof_instance_get_guid(ent);
12:44:02 <warlord> + guid = (GUID*)qof_entity_get_guid(ent);
12:44:10 <warlord> (can you also just remove the guid_malloc there)
12:44:47 <andi5> did i add that code or did you just notice an old bug?
12:45:28 <warlord> I just noticed an old bug
12:46:06 <chris> andi5: oh! that does seem to work. What are the downsides of using ansi-term instead of M-x shell?
12:47:03 <andi5> chris: you will tell me... all the trials i started ended in falling back to good old external terminal emulators (now rxvt-unicode, btw)
12:49:21 <chris> well, so far, it feels much more like a regular terminal.
12:49:21 <warlord> andi5: the rest of the patch looks fine.
12:49:34 <andi5> warlord: great, thanks!
12:49:41 <andi5> chris: is that good or bad?
12:49:55 <jsled> I end up having both ... a gnome-terminal + screen and a normal bash *shell*.
12:49:59 <chris> andi5: it's ... familar.
12:50:06 <jsled> andi5: does rxvt-unicode have any knowledge of urls?
12:50:26 <andi5> jsled: no :-D
12:50:37 <andi5> i.e. it is fast
12:50:40 <jsled> heh.
12:51:06 <jsled> right-click > {Copy,Open in Browser} is pretty convenient, though.
12:51:56 <andi5> well, sofar i did not miss it... it is definitely minor for me
12:53:23 <chris> andi5: haha. *None* of the emacs key bindings work in the ansi-term.
12:53:43 <jsled> Oh, that's right. Someone else tricked me in the same way not too long ago. :)
12:53:47 <andi5> i think you can change to emacsish mode somehow
12:56:46 <chris> well, ansi-term is cute, but I think removes all the benefits of an inferior shell.
12:57:37 <andi5> that is?
12:59:15 <warlord> andi5: thank you for hand-doing that revert.
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12:59:33 <warlord> I wish we had a test-case that would catch that problem for future reference and protection.
12:59:44 <chris> andi: for me, fast buffer switching; and easy cut-n-paste of selection.
12:59:59 <andi5> well, i somehow missed a testing framework for qof and so kept with the revert sofar
13:01:29 <andi5> chris: try C-c C-j and C-c C-k for switching between char and line mode
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13:04:05 <chris> andi5: ah, that does help. thanks.
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21:49:12 <dbr> jsled: Is there a way to convert freqspec sx's to recurrences without having to delete/recreate?
21:49:33 <dbr> It looks like my old sx's are crashing gnucash at times
21:52:41 <dbr> http://www.pastebin.ca/589567
22:02:59 <jsled> dbr: freqspecs should automagically be converted to recurrences...
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22:04:08 <dbr> jsled: I've opened and saved the file several times in svn r16200+, and I still get the 'saw freqspec in...' messages on startup when I have --logto active.
22:04:23 <jsled> dbr: That trace is after going through the SLR dialog with "[x] Review [...]"?
22:04:56 <jsled> The warning is "normal" ... I've not removed the FreqSpec-generation code, or that warning. I should probably do one or the other. :/
22:05:19 <dbr> jsled: yes, but I see nearly the identical crash when I tried to double click a transaction (expecting to be able to edit it after a double click...)
22:05:38 <jsled> dbr: double click a transaction ... in the SLR dialog?
22:05:44 <jsled> That shouldn't do anything
22:05:50 <dbr> in the transaction editor
22:06:10 <jsled> The SX editor?
22:06:27 <dbr> oops. yes. let me try to crash again there...
22:07:21 <dbr> yep. open SX editor. double click on one of the sx's that gets the freqspec warning, boom
22:16:38 <dbr> I also get:
22:16:40 <dbr> * 22:13:47 CRIT <Gtk> gtk_list_store_insert_with_values: assertion `iter != NULL' failed
22:16:41 <dbr> * 22:13:47 CRIT <gnc.gui.dense-cal> no view options?
22:20:13 <dbr> I have 12 sx's, but only get 6 of the GTK complaints
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23:17:27 <dan2> where do I get gnucash-docs
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23:18:34 <dbr> usually the same place you got gnucash. Prepackaged or source?
23:18:40 <dan2> source
23:19:20 <dan2> is it in the source or is it in another tarball
23:19:32 <dbr> usually another tarball
23:19:50 <dan2> ahh
23:19:52 <dan2> where do I find it?
23:20:36 <dbr> I'm pretty sure sourceforge has it, but I'll scrounge around (there's always svn, too, of course)
23:20:53 <dan2> ahh
23:20:56 <dan2> there's no docs for 2.1 series
23:21:02 <dbr> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=192&package_id=93259
23:21:44 <dbr> yeah, the docs are evolving more slowly, but mostly they're still good
23:22:22 <dan2> k
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