2007-06-04 GnuCash IRC logs
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09:45:20 <chris> morning warlord, good weekend?
09:45:27 <warlord> good morning.
09:45:50 <warlord> Well, define "good".. I spent most of the weekend in the hospital with my parents. My mom should be getting out today or tomorrow.
09:47:16 <chris> Well, hospitals aren't the best place to be, but getting out is better than staying in.
09:48:06 <warlord> Yep.
09:48:23 <warlord> I haven't heard from her today, but yesterday she was feeling much better. So, hopefully she'll be out soon.
09:48:33 <warlord> But as a result I haven't gotten much work done.
09:49:47 <chris> understandable
09:53:20 <warlord> Basically I didn't get any projects done this weekend.
09:55:36 <chris> Does anyone know why the Xorg process wants to keep 1.1GB resident?
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11:53:47 <hampton> warlord: Did you try updating any of your systems to F7?
11:54:33 <warlord> hampton: yep, I just updated both my myth backend and frontend machines to F7. Seems to have worked well, although I needed to reboot my frontend twice because I guess dkms ran too late in the boot sequence.
11:55:45 <warlord> I have yet to reboot my backend into the new OS.
11:56:07 <hampton> good to know. I'm trying to update my laptop that way and it just now dinished dependency resolution.
11:56:21 <hampton> install 115, upgrade 1038, remove 10
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11:58:16 <warlord> Ummm.......
11:58:23 <warlord> Upgrade from what?
11:58:31 <hampton> FC6
12:01:21 <warlord> Oh, well I'm not at all surprised that it wanted to update pretty much everything you have installed.
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12:04:05 <hampton> I'm not surprised either. The updates from F7t4 were tiny.
12:04:24 <warlord> Yeah.
12:04:49 <warlord> One machine had like 100 updates, the other about 150.. But that's because I wasn't tracking 'devel' for the last few weeks.
12:05:21 <warlord> Now if only I could get firewire working in F7. It's broken :(
12:05:36 <warlord> I suppose I could downgrade to FC6...
12:08:08 <hampton> I haven't tried FW yet on F7. That's important for my mythbackend to change the cable box.
12:14:30 <warlord> I think it can change the CB channel using FW, but I can't use it to read data from the CB.
12:15:35 <warlord> backend reboot into F7 worked flawlessly.
12:15:48 <warlord> Now I'm backing up my frontend. Yay for 4GB images. ;)
12:16:06 <hampton> I haven't been able to get the data read to work yet, so that's not a problem for me.
12:16:31 <warlord> Ah.
12:17:12 <warlord> See, it worked for me on its own when I first tried it.. I was even able to read off 1080i data. But then once I tried to use mythbackend on it... *boom* ANd now I can't get it working at all. :(
12:19:02 <hampton> It worked for me too the first time I read the test program, and I was even able to get it to make one recording, but I could never get it to work consistently.
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12:26:19 <warlord> hampton: Yeah, it worked at first using test-mpeg2.. but even that fails, now.
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12:34:36 <warlord> Hmm... my myth backend doesn't seem to consistently restart itself.. Almost like there's a race condition or something during the bootup sequence.
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12:46:24 <warlord> Oh, I messed up my modules.d config. okay.
12:48:09 <hampton> lol. Updating xxx [70/2247]
12:48:35 <warlord> xxx ?
12:48:54 <jsled> man. I don't have a 'xxx' package. :(
12:48:54 <hampton> didn't feel like typing the name. I was laughing at the numbers
12:49:02 <warlord> Ah
12:49:11 <warlord> I hope you have a speedy network.
12:49:37 <hampton> Its good this time of day. Everything's already been downloaded.
12:49:41 <warlord> (I was pulling down about 7mbps)
12:51:30 <warlord> Only thing left to update is my laptop, but I'll do that later.
12:51:50 <warlord> I just need to decide what to do about FW.. Should I wait for the FC7 fix, or just back out to FC6 so I can get it working?
12:51:59 <hampton> I still have to do my mythbackend/file server
12:52:09 <warlord> * nods *
12:52:16 <warlord> I also need to move my mythbackend down into my basement.
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13:12:44 <mishehu> warlord: using mythtv?
13:12:49 <warlord> mishehu: yes
13:12:57 <warlord> been using it for... 3-4 years
13:12:59 <mishehu> 0.20-fixes svn build?
13:13:07 <warlord> actually trunk.
13:13:17 <mishehu> ah, trunk migiht not be stable. ;-)
13:13:25 <mishehu> I use the 0.20-fixes branch.
13:13:35 <warlord> I tried 0.20-fixes, but it didnt work with my HDHR.. So I upgraded to trunk, and it didn't work either.. But I didn't back out to 0.20
13:13:40 <mishehu> only problems I ever seem to have involve recording from the firewire.
13:14:06 <warlord> my two problems now: firewire and HDHR
13:14:18 <warlord> I think the firewire problem is related to Fedora 7
13:14:37 <warlord> ... but I'm not sure I want to back out to Fedora 6 and reinstall everything.
13:15:13 <mishehu> well you need libraw1394, libiec61883, and maybe something else to use firewire. but firewire might be blocked by your provider.
13:15:55 <mishehu> cumcast in my area makes it so that you can only get broadcast channels on the firewire. everything else is blocked.
13:16:18 <mishehu> and sometimes my myth box locks up when recoridng off the firewire
13:18:27 <mishehu> I never see you around #mythtv-users on freenode... heh.
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13:32:05 <warlord> mishehu: I know what I need. I have FW compiled in. the application crashes whenever it tries to read f/w.
13:32:21 <warlord> Before I configured the mythbackend I WAS able to use test-mpeg2 and I was able to read out 1080i mpeg data.
13:32:28 <warlord> So I know that it worked once.
13:32:46 <warlord> BUT.. now it always crashes. see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=241729
13:34:43 <warlord> It crashes the mythbackend, and it crashes firewire_tester.
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14:26:16 <warlord> BBL.
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16:56:01 <jsled> warlord: 1080i mpeg out of your cable box?
16:56:25 * warlord nods
16:56:29 <jsled> wow.
16:56:34 <jsled> not DRMed or anything?
16:56:38 <warlord> nope
16:57:04 <warlord> I was able to use test-mepg2 and then ship it over my net to my laptop.. and it was clearly 1920x1080
16:58:59 <warlord> (at least I think it was... maybe it was 1366x720)
16:59:07 <warlord> It was a while ago..
16:59:47 <warlord> At this point my plan is to reinstall my frontend to FC6 on the theory that I can get firewire working. Worst case I can restore my F7 image later.
17:01:44 <warlord> but yes, I was certainly getting HD out of my cablebox w/o DRM
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22:15:49 <zach> what does the 'rename page' option do in the context menu?
22:15:58 <zach> if I select it nothing seems to happen
22:16:14 <jsled> It should allow you to rename the tab.
22:16:29 <zach> doesn't seem to work on windows
22:16:45 <jsled> Now that you mention it, I'm not sure it works on 'nix....
22:19:38 <zach> why would you want to rename a page anyways? the default names seem quite appropriate...
22:20:09 <jsled> I don't disagree, on first blush. I'm sure there could be reasons, though.
22:20:26 <zach> you can always come up with something I suppose :)
22:20:35 <jsled> One idea is if you had two Scheduled Transactions lists with different sorting / dense-cal sizing / other options.
22:20:43 <jsled> One is "near term" and the other is "long term".
22:20:45 <zach> hmm
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22:25:02 <snarfer> can someone help with a reconcile problem?
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22:28:03 *** snarfer is now known as tactical
22:28:28 <warlord> tactical: dont meta-ask.
22:28:47 <tactical> sorry, i am an IRC noob
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22:31:15 <warlord> okay, tactical, what is your reconcile problem?
22:32:09 <tactical> reconciled ok last month, this month starting balance if off by almost 2,000 dollars (gnucash 1.8.12 on ubuntu)
22:34:15 <warlord> Well, either you mistyped the reconciliation balance, deleted reconciled transactions, or re-pointeded reconciled transactions.
22:34:31 <warlord> Try reconciling with the correct ending balance, ignoring the starting balance, and see what happens.
22:35:53 <tactical> I JUST noticed new account names - specifically "Imbalanced USD" ... does this give a clue?
22:36:05 <tactical> it is the amount of the "problem"
22:37:20 <warlord> well, that account means you didn't balance your transactions.
22:38:10 <tactical> hmmm, let me go examine that new info for a bit.
22:38:49 <tactical> i have been trying to determine the ask/meta-ask issue while we are working here. i still do not understand. can you set me straight so that i play well with others on IRC?
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22:40:18 <warlord> meta-ask == "can I ask a question". "ask" == "my problem is XXX, how do I fix it?"
22:41:54 <tactical> got it!!!
22:43:05 <tactical> i have examined the transactions in the "Imbalanced USD" account. These are from a prior year. Obviously reconciled before. Looks like something "broke", as I think this account was created when I tried the "repair" option.
22:43:57 <warlord> Could be...
22:44:32 <warlord> The "Check&Repair" shouldn't have moved existing transactions, tho...
22:45:07 <tactical> Well, I'm still checking, I have backed up the file, I drop back to IRC after I see where this leads. Thx.
22:48:09 <warlord> ok. good luck.
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22:54:42 <tactical> ok, i just learned something. i had seen a few transactions in the register, they amounts had an 'x' in a box, before and after the amount. I could never find this documented. these were the broken (unbalanced) transactions.
22:55:04 <warlord> Yeah, the little [x] means imbalanced.
22:55:07 <tactical> once i cleared these up, the recon dialog is correct.
22:55:23 <tactical> i am going to do the recon and see what haps next. brb.
22:55:48 <warlord> ok
23:05:39 <tactical> ok, i have recon'd two months, no problem. dodged another bullet. thx warlord.
23:06:22 <warlord> you're welcome.
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23:22:37 <warlord> @tell hampton having connectivity issues?
23:22:37 <gncbot> warlord: The operation succeeded.
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