2007-06-01 GnuCash IRC logs
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04:46:47 <yamanu> hello :)
04:47:46 <yamanu> i have a problem with huge fonts on 2.0.5 here, but can't find how to change them back
04:48:30 <yamanu> checked all menus, installed gconf-editor, but nothing helps
04:49:49 <yamanu> what should i do?
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08:27:51 <warlord> @tell yamanu start the gnome control center and set your gnome font configuration.
08:27:51 <gncbot> warlord: The operation succeeded.
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09:05:38 <hampton> warlord: I upgraded both of my F7t4 systems last night just by copying the fedora-release rpm. They were recent enough that the only updates were the 6 or so announced yesterday, so I'm not sure how good a test case that was.
09:06:05 <warlord> Sounds good enough to me! :)
09:06:36 <warlord> thanks, hampton .. I figured that would be better and easier than pulling the DVD.
09:07:17 <hampton> I like to have the DVD on hand anyway. Only took me about 1:30 to pull with bittorrent.
09:10:04 <warlord> Not too bad.
09:19:36 <warlord> I'm sure I'll pull down the dvds at some point..
09:19:58 <warlord> I need to convert my nvidia driver to dkms to make upgrading easier.
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10:17:06 <warlord> off to the hospital again..
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13:14:47 <yamanu> warlord: i don't want to install gnome just for that
13:14:47 <gncbot> yamanu: Sent 4 hours and 46 minutes ago: <warlord> start the gnome control center and set your gnome font configuration.
13:15:33 <warlord> yamanu: you dont need to install all of gnome, just the gnome-control-center
13:16:09 <yamanu> anyway, i was poking with gconf-editor and now i have beautifull small fonts :)
13:17:04 <warlord> ok
13:17:22 <warlord> g-c-c is just a nice gui frontend to that.
13:19:50 <yamanu> warlord: but it pulls in nautilus, gstreamer, metacity...
13:19:56 <warlord> g-c-c??
13:20:43 <yamanu> warlord: aha
13:20:55 <warlord> the F7 control-center RPM pulls in a bunch of libraries, sure...
13:21:03 <warlord> (so, yes, it pulls in libgstreamer)
13:21:08 <warlord> 'aha'?
13:23:22 <yamanu> i'm on bsd, i just checked and i miss some big parts as mentioned above
13:23:48 <warlord> Oh, I see.
13:24:00 <warlord> Yeah, with ports it would pull in the complete packages.
13:24:11 <warlord> Granted you pulled in MOST of gnome for gnucash in the first place.
13:24:31 <jsled> yamanu: what is the gconf key, btw?
13:24:57 <jsled> Also, why do you care about (not) installing gnome?
13:26:51 <yamanu> jsled: /desktop/gnome/interface/font_name
13:28:05 <yamanu> this is my development machine i try to make it as light as possible
13:29:33 <yamanu> should probably move gnucash somewhere else, but this is the only mmachine that's on when i am :)
13:30:05 <warlord> vmware?
13:30:52 <yamanu> i'm on qemu, but nice idea, yeah
13:34:14 <warlord> just a thought.
13:39:31 <yamanu> thanks and be well guys!
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15:55:30 <chris> I am completely baffled by the number of people who put their data file under ~/.gnucash
15:55:52 <jsled> indeed.
15:56:08 <chris> It seems like I must have seen 30 different instances.
15:56:48 <chris> There must be hundreds or even thousands of people doing it.
15:58:42 <chris> I admit, the first couple times I saw it, thought, "man, you're dumb." But now, with so many cases, there must be something else at work.
15:59:14 <chris> Soemthing that actively suggests that this is a good idea.
15:59:23 <chris> I just wish I knew what it was.
16:02:49 <warlord> What's the default directory finder choice for a first-time user?
16:05:24 <jsled> warlord: do you use gnus?
16:05:26 <jsled> (with imap?)
16:07:33 <warlord> jsled: yeah
16:07:39 <warlord> well, sorta
16:08:00 <warlord> I use nnml and in the backend I use "imtest" to pull down from my imap server.
16:08:03 <warlord> i dont use nnimap
16:08:06 <jsled> ah.
16:08:33 <jsled> I've been using nnimap for the last week. I'm not very happy with it; it keeps closing out the connection, and randomly fails to retreive bodies.
16:08:42 <warlord> :(
16:08:53 <jsled> (Also, mailcrypt isn't remembering my passphrase, which is annoying)
16:09:02 <jsled> I think I'll try wanderlust for the next week.
16:10:38 <warlord> Oh, I stopped using mailcrypt and just use ppg
16:11:35 <jsled> noted.
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18:18:18 <andi5> nbinont: hiho.... are you running windows right now?
18:18:51 <andi5> ah, well.... do not mind
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18:25:40 <nbinont> andi5: yes I am
18:26:17 <andi5> i am as well now :-)
18:26:29 <nbinont> lol
18:28:18 <warlord> hm
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18:43:48 <fell> andi5: #432143; the resizeable columns are very nice. Thanks
18:44:09 <andi5> :-)
18:48:48 <fell> oops, it was 432072. 432143 is the next wish: buttons, to filter not only income & expense, but also activa/assets & passiva/liabilities
18:51:14 <andi5> fell: so you feel like you still need the four radiobuttons instead of not filtering at all (just expose the complete account tree)?
18:55:17 <fell> this would be a possibility too, but scrolling only 250 instead of 1000 accounts would be more user friendly.
18:55:42 <andi5> you do not need to expand all subtrees, you know
18:57:26 <andi5> i guess i need to double check whether the tree searches for you if you just enter the account name
18:57:58 <fell> On the other hand, the highest usability would be to integrate the tax dialog as popup/pulldown in account properties...
18:58:36 <andi5> i suppose that will be harder given the modular design of gnucash
19:00:08 <warlord> which tax dialog?
19:00:15 <fell> I don't know the current usage of the tax dialog: there is a checkbox in account proproties and the dialog.
19:01:05 <fell> Edit->Tax Options
19:01:13 <warlord> Oh, that tax...
19:01:46 <andi5> we have so many dialogs :-)
19:01:54 <fell> warlord: is it really used? only by US tax?
19:02:24 <warlord> and maybe german tax, if you compiled with --enable-locale-tax
19:02:31 <warlord> (and are running in a german locale)
19:03:43 <fell> yes, I am that crazy guy ;-)
19:04:50 <warlord> Heh
19:05:12 <andi5> crazy
19:06:32 <fell> warlard: any suggestions about the checkbox in acc. prop.?
19:06:57 <warlord> what about it?
19:08:25 <fell> was it the first approach? Is it a dummy or a switch? because the real things happen in the dialog
19:13:44 <warlord> The switch is a per-account "should we think about this"? Then all the details are in the dialog..
19:14:17 * andi5 fells asleep (damn, i like that wording ;-))
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19:18:39 <warlord> heh
19:19:19 <fell> ok, I think I understand. And the relationship is n accounts : 1 tax field?
19:20:36 <warlord> I dont know.
19:20:43 <warlord> I've never used that part of gnucash..
19:21:49 <fell> Or are multiple assignments possible like account VAT : 1. field x in monthly declaration 2. field y in yearly declaration?
19:22:06 <warlord> Like I said, I dont know.
19:22:34 <fell> do you know one, who did?
19:26:27 <warlord> not offhand.
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19:28:23 <fell> tpfennig: Moin
19:28:36 <tpfennig> hi fell how are you?
19:29:08 <fell> Fine, but much work and less money
19:29:39 <tpfennig> oh wrong direction ;)
19:30:02 <fell> and you?
19:32:19 <tpfennig> bah well... beeen to dentist today. :(
19:33:03 <fell> Überhaupt nicht gebohrt, alle gezogen?
19:45:38 <tpfennig> 2 mal wurzelbehandlung
19:46:39 <warlord> sorry?
19:47:26 <fell> root treatment
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