2007-05-30 GnuCash IRC logs
00:01:52 <mishehu> what, you're only now getting paid for your invoices from 2006?
00:02:08 <mishehu> sounds like you're in the wrong business... I prefer to get paid within 2 weeks time ;-)
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00:08:53 <warlord> gantrixx: You can't do a lump sum for ALL invoices.. You need to do at least one per Customer. But for each Customer just Business -> Process Payment.
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03:24:49 <cwraig> hi all
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03:28:59 <cwraig> hi all
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07:58:26 <chris> warlord-afk, jsled: I forget, did the GSoC students get svn accounts?
07:58:50 <chris> (or instructions to send their pubkeys?)
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08:31:41 <eleusis> hello
08:32:37 <jsled> hello.
08:33:29 <eleusis> oh hey, the channel is active after all :)
08:33:40 <jsled> chris: I don't think so. They probably should ... or maybe we should handle it on a case-by-case basis.
08:34:56 <jsled> eleusis: Somewhat. It's still early on the east coast of the US... not everyone is around at the moment.
08:35:27 <eleusis> i'm wondering whether someone has written a report that shows budget data as a pie chart or a bar chart
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08:35:40 <jsled> I'm pretty sure hte answer is no.
08:35:49 <eleusis> ok
08:36:09 <eleusis> guess i better learn how to write custom reports then..
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09:02:36 <warlord> chris: they did not, yet. We should probably do that.
09:03:38 <warlord> eleusis: technically this isn't a "custom report", it's a "new report". "custom" tends to mean saving the customizations for an existing report to "change the defaults"
09:03:57 <eleusis> ok, new report
09:04:49 <jsled> eleusis: http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Custom_Reports
09:05:42 <eleusis> heh, thanks
09:05:49 <eleusis> i've started reading through the scheme book
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11:43:20 <xai> Should I setup a liability account for Travel Expenses to be reimbursed to employees?
11:44:55 <chris> xai: Are you the employer?
11:45:50 <xai> yes
11:47:00 <xai> I know I could just cut a check and balance against travel,.. not sure if that is sufficient for IRS types.
11:47:21 <xai> I'm looking through docs now, but not finding it.
11:47:26 <jsled> IF that's your concern, you should contact an Accountant.
11:49:10 <chris> A liability account might be a good idea if you know about the expenses for some time before you pay them.
11:50:13 <chris> OTOH, if you pay them as soon as you learn of them, or if you use the cash-based accounting method, there's not much reason to use a liability account.
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11:57:37 <xai> Ok, accountant contacted.. Been advised to create expense reports and place in liability accounts.
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11:59:27 <xai> If I want to close books for the year, and start clean slate, Should I File->export accounts, and put in starting balances for that new year?
12:00:39 <xai> chris: I see your point. I'm talking with the local SBA accountant advisors tommorrow to clarify it.
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12:18:39 <warlord> xai: You could, but File -> Export Accounts will ONLY export the account tree. If you use ANY business features (customers/invoices/etc) they will be lost.
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12:23:03 <warlord> BBL.
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14:31:20 <ska-fan> Hi everyone
14:32:14 <ska-fan> I have a file with accounts in two currencies. How can I tell gnucash what the current exchange rate is? It seems to use an exchange rate which makes me a millionaire in one currency, although I'm not
14:32:49 <ska-fan> 1,7 million
14:33:10 <ska-fan> I'm using 2.0.2
14:45:26 <ska-fan> Got it
14:45:26 <ska-fan> :)
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17:40:36 <beorn> Hello
17:40:40 <jsled> hello.
17:41:47 <beorn> I just tried gnucash ... this is a really basic question ... but when I click on a transaction ... I can't seem to move to another transaction without a dialog box asking me to "reconcile" the current row
17:42:43 <jsled> What's the specific text?
17:43:11 <beorn> A diaglog box with the title "Reblance Transaction"
17:44:11 <beorn> The choices are: Balance it manually, Let Gnucash add an adjusting split, adjust current account split total
17:44:42 <beorn> I was hoping I could click on a transaction, and unless I edit one of the values, click to another transaction
17:45:04 <jsled> That should be the case. what version of gnucash? Where'd you get the datafile from?
17:45:09 <beorn> There is an OK and a CANCEL button .. but the cancel removes the dialog ... after that I can't move
17:45:24 <beorn> It's 1.8.9
17:45:38 <jsled> 1.8.9 is really old; what distro are you using/
17:45:46 <beorn> Suse 10
17:46:07 <jsled> 10.1? 10.2?
17:46:30 <beorn> 10.0
17:46:33 <jsled> Ah.
17:46:55 <beorn> I started to compile a release ... but one of the components (GUILE) had a build problem
17:47:49 <jsled> yeah ... you're going to need to distro-upgrade, at some point.
17:47:57 <jsled> Anyways. What View mode is the register in?
17:48:06 <beorn> OK
17:48:10 <beorn> let me look ...
17:49:01 <beorn> It's the default ... can't tell what it's called
17:49:20 <jsled> You just see one line per transaction? Even when you click on one?
17:49:50 <beorn> Two lines .. the second being the "action notes"
17:50:52 <jsled> Ah, so you're in Double-Line mode, but the Basic register style.
17:51:29 <jsled> What does the Transfer column say? Is it always the same, or does ti vary for each Txn?
17:52:27 <beorn> The transfer column is blank ... the reconcile column is "C"
17:52:44 <beorn> I started by importing a QIF file
17:53:34 <jsled> Ah. Hmm.
17:53:57 <jsled> When you went through the QIF import, did you assign expense accounts for the various tranactions?
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17:54:10 <beorn> No
17:54:41 <jsled> Ah. I suggest reading the Tutorial and Concepts Guide, to get a sense of how transactions are supposed to behave.
17:55:09 <beorn> OK, I started to browse those .. I guess it's RTFM :)
17:55:27 <jsled> In short: each transaction references at least two accounts. For most common "I bought this" transaction, the two would be Assets:Checking and Expenses:Whatever.
17:55:49 <jsled> The sum of credits and debits of these "Splits" must sum to zero.
17:55:55 <jsled> Thus, we have double-entry accounting.
17:56:14 <beorn> Since I'm missing the "whatever" account it might be causing this problem while I'm trying to browse ... hmmm
17:56:34 <beorn> I'll read through the setup ...
17:56:49 <jsled> Right. GnuCash is saying "hey, this isn't balanced! please to be fixing!"
17:57:13 <jsled> As well, the 'C' indicates that the transactions are already marked as being "cleared" through the reconciliation process.
17:57:28 <beorn> could be (this is what I get for trying to short cut the process)
17:57:30 <beorn> :)
17:57:44 <jsled> Which you may or may not want, depending. Usually just-entered transactions aren't reconciled (column = 'n') until you get the statement.
17:58:07 <jsled> (back in a second)
18:01:43 <jsled> (back)
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18:14:13 <andi5> http://pastebin.ca/raw/523791 comments are welcome [tab=4]
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23:19:56 <ryjax> should i be worried that i'm getting errors such as these while compiling?
23:19:57 <ryjax> libtool: link: warning: `/usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.0.3/../../..//libgwrap-guile-runtime.la' seems to be moved
23:19:57 <ryjax> libtool: link: warning: `/usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.0.3/../../..//libgwrap-core-runtime.la' seems to be moved
23:19:57 <ryjax> libtool: link: warning: `/usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.0.3/../../..//libguile.la' seems to be moved
23:19:57 <ryjax> libtool: link: warning: `/usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.0.3/../../..//libguile-ltdl.la' seems to be moved
23:19:59 <ryjax> libtool: link: warning: `/usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.0.3/../../..//libqthreads.la' seems to be moved
23:20:27 <jsled> Nope.
23:20:41 <jsled> (also, please pastebin more than a couple of lines)
23:21:00 <jsled> See the '//' ... it triggers libtool to warn.
23:21:22 <jsled> But it's relatively easy to construct.
23:21:34 <ryjax> ah, i c
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23:34:43 <warlord> ryjax: those are normal... ignore it
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