2007-05-07 GnuCash IRC logs
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10:29:35 <asiyan> hi threre
10:31:26 <warlord> good morning
10:32:30 <asiyan> I have a problem with GNUCash
10:32:53 <asiyan> whenever I enter a number it is rounding that up
10:32:58 <asiyan> how can I disable that
10:33:53 <warlord> You can't disable rounding.
10:34:17 <warlord> If you're entering US$ it'll always round to the nearest penny.
10:34:52 <asiyan> I am not entering US$ I am using YTL
10:35:02 <asiyan> but it is still rounding up
10:35:32 <warlord> I was just giving an example..
10:35:38 <warlord> It's true with everything.
10:36:01 <asiyan> oh I see
10:36:02 <warlord> It'll only round up for .5-9. It'll round down for .0-.4
10:36:53 <warlord> So, again for US$, If I enter $10.123 it'll round to $10.12. If I enter $12.567, it'll round to $12.57
10:37:22 <asiyan> may be that works for me
10:37:43 <asiyan> what if I enter like 10.230
10:39:25 <warlord> That would round to 10.23
10:39:40 <warlord> (assuming your SCU is 1/100)
10:39:53 <asiyan> it is a great program and have everything I need but I just don`t want it round up :)
10:40:02 <asiyan> yes you are right
10:40:18 <jsled> asiyan: What are you entering, and what is it rounding to? And where?
10:40:45 <jsled> ([where] in the user interface)
10:41:08 <asiyan> when I am trying to type to an account it is rounding up
10:41:47 <warlord> And what number are you entering?
10:41:53 <warlord> And what's it rounding to?
10:42:19 <asiyan> like 76.84
10:42:47 <asiyan> and it is rounding that down
10:43:06 <asiyan> btu I need the exact amount
10:44:08 <asiyan> sorry it is rounding that up
10:44:13 <jsled> rounding up to what value?
10:44:44 <warlord> And what currency is YTL? I dont see that currency in the ISO List.
10:45:24 <asiyan> sorry let me be clear when I enter 76.84 it is rounding that up to 77.00
10:46:51 <warlord> asiyan: again, what currency is this?
10:47:05 <asiyan> I am confused with new name of the money it is TRL
10:47:27 <warlord> TRL isn't a valid currency code, either.
10:47:33 <jsled> TRY.
10:47:37 <jsled> It was reanmed in 2.0.5.
10:47:47 <warlord> Ahh, turkish new lira
10:47:55 <jsled> asiyan: see http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=408444
10:48:15 <jsled> I'm not sure if that's the problem, but it might be.
10:48:21 <jsled> It sounds very similar.
10:49:01 <asiyan> when I go to Edit>Edit Account I can choose that from dropdown menu
10:50:23 <warlord> asiyan: yes, see that bug report that jsled pointed out.
10:50:35 <warlord> TRL was changed to TRY in GnuCash 2.0.5
10:50:50 <asiyan> I was just reading that
10:50:59 <warlord> And there's probably a misconfigured currency.
10:51:54 <asiyan> can you tell me how can I fix that
10:52:25 <warlord> Upgrade to 2.0.5
10:53:00 <warlord> TRL is configured with a SCU of 1; TRY is configured with a SCU of 100.
10:53:18 <warlord> So... Prior to 2.0.5 your behavior is "correct" based on the currency definition.
10:53:22 <warlord> This was fixed in 2.0.5
10:53:22 <jsled> Or just edit your datafile to correct the commodity therein.
10:53:52 <jsled> warlord: even after he upgrades, wouldn't the existing commodity in the datafile remain incorrect?
10:53:53 <asiyan> OK I was using 2.0.2 I guess it is better if I upgrade to 2.0.5
10:54:36 <warlord> jsled: Currencies usually aren't in the datafile.
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10:55:16 <warlord> asiyan: yes, you should upgrade. there's LOTS of crasher bugs in 2.0.2
10:55:54 <jsled> warlord: uh, USD is in mine. And <http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=408444#c6>.
10:57:36 <asiyan> I am using Suse 10.2 can I upgrade through YAST
10:58:16 <warlord> asiyan: Maybe, if you have the right repositories configured. CRauch has 2.0.5 packages for SUSE
10:58:27 <warlord> jsled: yeah, I saw that.. I'm not sure why it's there.
10:59:18 <jsled> yeah ... it both does and doesn't make sense/
10:59:34 <jsled> (to be in the datafile)
11:04:09 <warlord> I think it should only get put into the datafile if you add some extra flag that isn't part of the default configuration...
11:04:21 <jsled> yeah, I was thinking similar.
11:04:27 <warlord> But then you should have a UI method of editing that flag..
11:04:43 <jsled> Or always in there, but with such a flag so we know when we can update it.
11:05:02 <jsled> Or, we could just always append to the currency list, but then we could never change any existing currency (without the flag)
11:05:15 <jsled> s,the flag,the 'user has changed some aspect' flag,
11:05:21 <warlord> * nods *
11:05:28 <warlord> I think hampton did this..
11:05:47 <warlord> Me, I need to head offline for a bit.. I'll be back online in an hour or less.
11:08:16 <asiyan> thanks guy you`ve been really helpfull
11:08:29 <asiyan> guys*
11:08:41 <warlord> asiyan: after you update to 2.0.5 you MAY still need to edit your datafile and change that '1' to '100'
11:09:06 <warlord> okay, gotta run. BIAB.
11:09:07 <asiyan> where am I going to find my datafile
11:09:16 <warlord> Wherever you told gnucash to save it.
11:09:32 <warlord> later
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11:59:24 <andi5> Q: may someone test http://pastebin.ca/raw/475648 for me and tell me its output?
12:01:07 <jsled> jsled@phoenix [~/tmp]$ LANG=de_DE.UTF-8 ./mytime
12:01:07 <jsled> d -1208856032 m 4 y 134515749
12:01:26 <andi5> interesting....
12:01:39 <andi5> d 4 m 4 y 1900 here.... which sucks
12:02:14 <andi5> but both are incorrect, nonetheless.... i do not understand why it cannot parse the mday and mon
12:02:56 <andi5> jsled: what is your glibc version?
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12:03:34 <jsled> 2.5
12:03:57 <andi5> hmm... same here
12:06:27 <andi5> i tried to debug strptime .... the recursive call to __strptime_internal (with %x resolved to %d.%m.%Y) should return "" as far as gdb told me, but after `finish' it seems it returned NULL, signalling some failure (i think) ... strnage
12:07:35 <andi5> better i reverted r16049
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12:09:19 <shwag> Is there a way to do a cash flow statement for each month...so I can see Money In - Money Out for each month rather then by just the year.
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12:12:18 <warlord> shwag_: run the report 12 times?
12:12:28 <andi5> shwag_: have you checked the report options?
12:13:22 <shwag_> andi5: it has the option to view the current month rather then the current year
12:13:40 <shwag_> yah, guess i have to run it a few times.
12:15:39 <warlord> Or you can write the scheme to make the report do multiple months...
12:16:02 <shwag_> warlord: is that the part of gnucash I hear about that uses lisp ?
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12:36:05 <jsrn> Been using Gnucash for a while - absolutely brilliant software. Quick question: I had a debt to a friend listed under Liabilities, however my friend has agreed to drop half the interest. Instead of $500, I now owe $250. I know this isn't "income", but an adjustment, but the adjustment category is under Expenses. Advice?
12:37:22 <warlord> Well, the interest isn't part of the liability per se.
12:37:45 <warlord> Generally you only record principle in the liability account, and then incur an "interest expense" as you pay back the loan.
12:38:03 <warlord> So... if your friend reduced the interest, that means you'll have less expense as you continue to pay the loan.
12:39:21 <jsrn> Yes, I understand. I have setup other liabilities in such a way, but unforutnately our agreement was so vague, I really have no idea what percentage of the weekly payment was going to interest.
12:40:38 <warlord> Does he?
12:40:50 <warlord> You could setup an SX to help you compute it.
12:41:25 <jsrn> He might, but I'm afraid it would be a couple months to go back and change it.
12:41:35 <jsrn> Not familar with an SX...
12:41:55 <jsrn> By the way, I do appreciate your response and help.
12:41:57 <warlord> SXes are your friends.
12:42:09 <warlord> Run the loan setup druid
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12:44:48 <jsrn> Hmm... interesting. Should have played around with that more before.
12:45:46 <jsrn> Will use that from now on.
12:48:02 <jsrn> However, is there a simpler way for this particular loan? It's basically a payoff settlement where he agreed to drop the price in half. How does gnucash handle a liablity randomly changing?
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12:49:17 <warlord> the liability hasn't changed, just the interest rate.
12:49:29 <warlord> unless he's forgiving principle?
12:50:03 <muldrec> hi. i have a quick question. how does one find and download the new windows binaries?
12:50:09 <jsrn> Yes, that's kind of what it is...
12:50:21 <andi5> muldrec: http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Windows
12:50:31 <muldrec> thanks a million.
12:51:15 <andi5> muldrec: see section 1.2 and 1.3, at least
12:51:37 <jsrn> If he's forgiving principle as well?
12:53:22 <warlord> If he's forgiving principle then Liability:Loan -> Equity:Forgiven Loan to reduce your liability balance.
12:53:39 <warlord> (or perhaps it's the other way around -- I might have that transaction backwards)
12:55:03 <jsrn> Ah, ok. Just create another source of Equity for the principle forgiven?
12:55:57 <warlord> sure
12:56:48 <jsrn> Sounds simple enough. I appreciate it!
12:57:51 <warlord> NP
12:57:56 <warlord> Okay, time to run to a meeting.
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14:13:31 <andi5> nbinont: hiho :)
14:13:44 <nbinont> hi
14:13:44 <gncbot> nbinont: Sent 1 week, 1 day, 7 hours, and 34 minutes ago: <andi5> two things that would be good for the build of 2.1.1: (a) try to build directly from the tarball (create custom.sh and run install.sh inside $extdir/packaging/win32) .... (b) get depends.exe (ask google or look into the logs, dbr has done it before) and check that libexed\gconfd-2.exe runs as GUI (not console) ... otherwise issue the `exetype' command i linked above too (r16022 shows it too)
14:14:02 <andi5> oops
14:14:16 <warlord> heh
14:14:35 <nbinont> I built 2.1.1 from the tarball
14:16:33 <andi5> nbinont: can you reproduce http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=436489 or http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=430130 ?
14:17:51 <andi5> nbinont: seems like gconfd-2.exe is indeed running as GUI *sigh*
14:20:52 <nbinont> andi5: I haven't tried to reproduce the bugs, but I can take a look
14:21:03 <andi5> nbinont: thanks!
14:22:11 <nbinont> andi5: it may be tomorrow though (got a big report due tomorrow)
14:23:37 <andi5> nbinont: do not mind, any help is good help ;-)
14:25:38 <andi5> i just managed to reproduce the one about the ofx crash.... n_problems--; (almost, hopefully)
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15:17:08 <andi5> Q: again, may someone test http://pastebin.ca/raw/475884 for me? is the button centered in the resized window or not? if not, does moving the window help?
15:17:58 <andi5> i mean the button label, sorry
15:44:03 <warlord> andi5: yes, it's centered in the resized window on FC5.
15:45:35 <andi5> warlord: thanks
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15:49:21 <warlord> andi5: Bitteshön
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