2007-04-26 GnuCash IRC logs

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03:12:47 <Rolf> Guten Morgen!
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09:10:51 <Rolf> Is it possible to search for accounts in gnucash?
09:11:16 <Rolf> Let's say I was looking for the account for telecommunications costs in SKR04 and could not find it.
09:11:30 <Rolf> But I know either the description text or even the account number
09:13:20 <Rolf> Another question: what is the difference between "Buchungstext" and "Beschreibung" when entering a transaction (Strg + T)?
09:19:03 <jsled> Hmm, no, it doesn't look like there is.
09:19:16 <jsled> If you start typing in the account tree, it'll only search within the account names, apparently.
09:19:36 <Rolf> bummer
09:19:39 <jsled> And searching for transactions by Account requires one to know the account name/path.
09:19:51 <jsled> I'd search against the data-file contents.
09:20:11 <Rolf> Yes, that is possible, but *very* hackish
09:20:13 <Rolf> ;-)
09:20:57 <Rolf> Next question, now related to building from svn. I have installed the packages listed as necessary for dapper on http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Building. But autogen.sh returns an error: http://rafb.net/p/Sfn6RR47.html
09:24:14 <Rolf> jsled: Just typing in the account tree is close to what I was looking for.
09:24:33 <jsled> Is there some sort of "gconf-devel" package, maybe?
09:24:58 <jsled> Yeah, it's close, but it doesn't search over either the description or account number. :(
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10:27:03 <Rolf> jsled: Could it be libgconf2-dev?
10:27:23 <Rolf> But there is a libgconf-dev as well
10:27:28 <jsled> probably the former.
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10:53:28 <hampton> I agree with jsled. The latter would be for gconf-1.x.
10:58:11 <Rolf> OK, added it to the wiki and my dependencies
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11:59:22 <tedcx> In the account tab, how does one shorten the Description/Memo field and lengthen the Account Field? Can the Description/Memo field line wrap?
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11:59:57 <hampton> tedcx: 1.8 or 2.0?
12:00:04 <tedcx> 2.05
12:00:33 <hampton> you should be able to change all columns by dragging the right edge of the title
12:01:46 <hampton> None of the fields wrap
12:01:54 <tedcx> Description/Memo doesn't, all the others do.
12:03:15 <hampton> That a register, not the accounts tab. Yes, the register is different
12:03:46 <tedcx> OK so how does one shrink Description/Memo ?
12:04:01 <hampton> in the register, the description tab gets whatever space is leftover to make the register fill the window. If you want to shrink it, enlarge something else first.
12:04:11 <jsled> Haven't we had this conversation before?
12:06:18 <tedcx> Yes but without the explanation, to shrink Description/Memo resize the entire window. Its non intuitive.
12:10:37 <jsled> http://lists.gnucash.org/logs/2007-04-11.html#T17:29:51
13:10:46 <Rolf> jsled, hampton: autogen.sh ran through fine, now.
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15:27:47 <jsled> hey cstim.
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15:35:40 <andi5> hiho cstim :)
15:40:49 <cstim> hi jsled, andi5
15:41:01 <cstim> with the LIBSSL32.DLL this is really verzwickt noch mal!
15:41:33 <andi5> i have not yet added safety nets to install.sh :)
15:41:39 <andi5> so what is your current problem?
15:41:52 <cstim> no problem.
15:42:26 <andi5> note that i made r15998 to enable Crypt::SSLeay... that would not work otherwise
15:43:13 <andi5> do you know where your ssl libs came from?
15:43:52 <cstim> no, I don't know.
15:44:32 <andi5> out of nowhere :)
15:47:41 * cstim wrote email
15:48:14 <cstim> inst_docs() fails for me
15:48:32 <andi5> is that new?
15:48:34 <cstim> due to a 404 Not Found for the docbook-xsl-1.72.0.zip download.
15:48:39 <andi5> oh, ok
15:49:14 <cstim> In other words, everything up to and including inst_gnucash worked perfectly! Great work, andi!
15:49:18 <andi5> did you change your sf mirro?
15:49:21 <cstim> no
15:49:22 <andi5> thanks :-)
15:52:00 <cstim> weird. the default sf mirror doesn't have the directory docbook/
15:52:18 <cstim> but the "switch.dl" mirror has it.
15:52:32 <cstim> ok. downloading now.
15:52:40 <andi5> yes.... i wonder whether one can request a resync
15:53:08 <andi5> that would be a lot easier than implementing secondary/fallback urls
15:53:44 <andi5> do you like your new hardware? :)
15:54:08 <andi5> (me is just angry, because his cpu cooler renders one ram dimm unusable ;-( )
15:55:40 <cstim> yes, the new hardware is way cool. The full gnucash compile takes approx. 45 by now.
15:55:46 <cstim> 45 minutes, that is.
15:55:54 <cstim> :-) at least better than 5 hours.
15:55:59 <andi5> yepp
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16:09:14 <andi5> hehe
16:11:23 <Rolf> autogen.sh still fails. It lacks slib now. I installed a package called slib but apparently it does not provide the right thing. What file should be in that package? Is autogen.sh looking for an executable or a lib?
16:12:14 <jsled> Rolf: huh. autogen shouldn't be failing. Can you pastebin the error?
16:12:15 <Rolf> the slib package I installed has no executable, just a bunch of stuff under /usr/share/
16:12:52 <Rolf> jsled: I think I lack a package for compilation
16:13:14 <Rolf> jsled: http://rafb.net/p/Aa0ZPE45.html
16:14:07 <jsled> So, that was from running ./configure, right?
16:14:25 <jsled> Can you find and pastebin the relevant section from near the end of config.log?
16:14:35 <jsled> But before that ... what version of slib?
16:15:07 <Rolf> hm, yes
16:15:09 <Rolf> Sorry
16:15:12 <cstim_mojito> Rolf: it is correct that slib does not have an executable.
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16:15:40 <Rolf> Do I need to rerun autogen.sh after installing slib?
16:15:42 <jsled> aye, slib is a scheme library, infact.
16:15:52 <jsled> no, just ./configure
16:15:52 <cstim> Rolf: no
16:16:41 <cstim> andi5: re file extensions: I don't think foo.sh automatically says to the the user "Please run me as a script."
16:17:10 <Rolf> http://oz.leggewie.org/config.log
16:17:17 <cstim> andi5: but the downloading issue of various webbrowsers who silently attach a .htm suffix is really annoying.
16:18:29 <Rolf> jsled: slib is 3a3-2
16:18:38 <cstim> jsled: I wonder whether Rolf needs to run slibcat or something like that?
16:18:49 <jsled> Rolf: What does `guile -c "(use-modules (ice-9 slib)) (require 'printf)"` do?
16:19:26 <Rolf> ERROR: In procedure primitive-load-path:
16:19:27 <Rolf> ERROR: Unable to find file "slib/init/guile.init" in load path
16:20:41 <Rolf> jsled: config log is at http://oz.leggewie.org/config.log
16:22:06 <cstim> Rolf: which distro? Ubuntu? Did you install slib by "apt-get"? If yes, what does "dpkg -L slib | grep guile.init" say?
16:22:49 <Rolf> ubuntu edgy
16:23:22 <jsled> For me, this is {/usr/share/slib/guile.init} with slib-3.1.1[-r1]; there is also a symlink from /usr/share/guile/slib -> /usr/share/slib
16:23:22 <Rolf> cstim: yes, it is available at /usr/share/slib/init/guile.init
16:24:04 <jsled> Rolf: You might try going to slib-3a1, just for kicks. Though I thought 3a3 was fine.
16:24:14 <jsled> note that 3a4 is known bad.
16:25:16 <Rolf> I am not looking so much for kicks with this machine.
16:25:35 <Rolf> It is something I usually try to avoid
16:26:20 <Rolf> So, http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/devel/slib is not good? (straight install or backport)
16:26:50 <jsled> Uh, I think debian actually has figured out how to make it work.
16:26:55 <jsled> So, maybe that will work.
16:27:22 <Rolf> recompile the debian package?
16:28:05 <Rolf> Debian is also at 3a4
16:28:26 <Rolf> Let' step back
16:28:44 <Rolf> What is the test? What file is it looking for?
16:28:56 <Rolf> What is configure testing here?
16:29:13 <jsled> The test is that guile -c [...] command I gave above.
16:29:58 <cstim> Rolf: The problem is that your slib package hasn't installed itself completely correctly, so we can help you only to find a suitable workaround.
16:31:23 <Rolf> OK
16:32:07 <Rolf> What is the load path for example?
16:32:16 <Rolf> I could just create a symlink
16:33:15 <jsled> But you shouldn't need to.
16:33:21 <jsled> The package should do whatever the right thing is.
16:33:29 <Rolf> Seems like the fastest way to get this going
16:33:46 <Rolf> I can file a bug report on the package later
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16:36:56 <Rolf> What is the load path? Can I manipulate it?
16:37:32 <jsled> Rolf: do you have a symlink from /usr/share/guile/slib or /usr/share/guile/site/slib into the slib sources?
16:38:46 <Rolf> jsled: I don't even think I have the slib sources
16:39:05 <jsled> Sorry, the slib install. The installed thing for slib is sources.
16:39:30 <Rolf> By calling up guile I found out that apparently my load path is
16:39:32 <Rolf> ("/usr/share/guile/site" "/usr/share/guile/1.6" "/usr/share/guile" ".")
16:39:44 <Rolf> Now, I need to figure out how to manipulate it
16:39:54 <jsled> I council you to NOT do that.
16:40:01 <Rolf> OK
16:40:36 <jsled> s/council/counsel/
16:41:17 <jsled> It's probably better to figure out how to get slib to be installed so that guile can see it using the default load path.
16:41:38 <Rolf> Does g-wrap have anything to do with this? I found it in /usr/share/guile. I installed an equivs version because another package errouneously depended on it and pulled a slew of packages
16:42:28 <jsled> g-wrap shouldn't have anything to do with this
16:42:32 <Rolf> /usr/share/guile contains 1.6, g-wrap and www directories. plus a g-wrap.scm file
16:43:11 <jsled> try making a symlink /usr/share/guile/slib -> /usr/share/slib
16:43:14 <Rolf> "/usr/share/guile/1.6" does not have a slib dir either
16:44:28 <Rolf> done
16:44:31 <Rolf> Retrying
16:45:04 <Rolf> The guile -c command returns a slightly different error now
16:45:09 <Rolf> ERROR: In procedure open-file:
16:45:09 <Rolf> ERROR: No such file or directory: "/usr/share/guile/1.6/slib/require"
16:45:54 <Rolf> Make another ln in /usr/share/guile/1.6 ?
16:46:59 <jsled> hmm. you should only need one.
16:47:09 <jsled> But some permutation of symlink should do the trick.
16:47:14 <Rolf> Did not work
16:47:15 <cstim> andi5: woot. Even the gnucash help turns up nicely when starting gnucash/winXP. Really cool work!
16:47:19 <Rolf> Again another error
16:47:24 <andi5> :-)
16:47:38 <Rolf> ERROR: In procedure open-file:
16:47:38 <Rolf> ERROR: Permission denied: "/usr/share/guile/1.6/slibcat"
16:47:40 <andi5> cstim: WRT to extensions... i will add .sh ... soon
16:47:44 <jsled> Ah, great!
16:47:54 <Rolf> slibcat is not in /usr/share/guile/1.6/
16:48:28 <jsled> Now, as root, run: guile -c "(use-modules (ice-9 slib)) (require 'new-catalog)" "/"
16:48:52 <jsled> And I will finally control your mach^UAnd the catalog should be created.
16:49:00 * andi5 wonders what the problem is.... edgy worked painlessly for me
16:49:46 <Rolf> andi5: Maybe you have another package installed?
16:50:35 <Rolf> OK, the guile -c command finished now without any output
16:50:38 <Rolf> I guess that is good
16:50:50 <jsled> Now, try the [...]printf one not as root?
16:51:21 <Rolf> No, that is the one I meant
16:51:44 <Rolf> guile -c "(use-modules (ice-9 slib)) (require 'printf)" as normal user
16:51:52 <cstim> shoot. just yesterday it was the 4th time someone requested a gnucash-de email "has to be deleted from the gnucash.org archive" because when running google on this person's name, the gnucash-de archive turned up before anything else. Those were Sales Manager of other Finance apps, or German tax managers, or something like that.
16:51:54 <Rolf> no output, no error
16:52:32 <jsled> Rolf: try `echo $?` to see the exit code, but you should just re-run ./configure, now.
16:52:40 <jsled> cstim: ha ha.
16:52:55 <cstim> jsled: yeah, but those emails really sucks.
16:53:17 <jsled> cstim: why's that?
16:53:33 <andi5> Rolf: i am not sure and cannot check now (win32), sorry
16:53:50 <cstim> jsled: The law situation in Germany is pretty much that if the Person "xy" requests his name to be deleted from our webpages, we pretty much would have to conform
16:54:26 <cstim> jsled: because the people in question haven't posted their full names to the list themselves, rather, someone else either forwarded a (originally only private) email
16:54:55 <cstim> jsled: or someone complained "this guy XY in the tax office really gave me a headache"
16:55:11 <jsled> Ah.
16:55:24 <cstim> Maybe it is allowed by law to publish their full names, but maybe it is not allowed. It's not so clear.
16:55:37 <cstim> I don't want to be the one who is tried in court for this.
16:56:30 <cstim> note to self: if you complain about someone else on a mailing list, avoid using the full name of that person.
16:56:58 <andi5> 'k c*tim
16:57:00 <cstim> Part of the name or initials is fine. Google will never remind that person of this message again.
16:57:10 <cstim> and1five: exactly.
16:57:11 <cstim> :-)
16:57:48 <andi5> 4nd1S
17:00:03 <cstim> A.diFive: When trying to start the aqbanking wizard from gnucash's wizard, I get the error "Qt3Support4.dll missing".
17:00:06 <hampton> @nd|(4+1)
17:00:06 <gncbot> hampton: Error: "nd|(4+1)" is not a valid command.
17:00:11 <cstim> heh
17:00:36 <cstim> andi5: obviously I didn't obey your instructions - I only set QTDIR in msys's profile, but not XP-wide.
17:00:54 <cstim> however, I didn't expect such a cryptic error message to result from this...
17:01:21 <cstim> The issue is clear: The Qt*.dll are not in XP's PATH. I just wonder whether we could do better in terms of the error message...
17:01:54 <andi5> well, the spawn fails... i do not know how to handle that
17:02:31 <cstim> andi5: oh, that's fine. gnucash will show the message "setup wizard could not be started successfully" after the winXP error message.
17:02:40 <andi5> yep
17:03:12 <andi5> i have tried today what dlls we need.... they sum up to 15mb, so i guess we should not start shipping them :)
17:03:23 <andi5> (qt only)
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17:04:33 <cstim> yes
17:04:48 <cstim> I need to get some sleep
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17:04:59 <andi5> bye cstim :)
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17:08:57 <cstim_zzz> btw. Maia is going to become the big sister by the end of this year
17:09:06 <jsled> Hey, congrats!
17:09:11 <andi5> ooohhh.... congratulations :-)
17:09:18 <hampton> congratulations
17:10:25 <cstim_zzz> thank, thanks, thanks :-)
17:10:46 <Rolf> Next hurdle: http://rafb.net/p/1Nf6jd77.html
17:10:50 <chris> cstim_zzz: Congrats!
17:11:14 <Rolf> I do have libxml2 2.6.26.dfsg-2ubuntu4 or do I need libxml2-dev?
17:11:52 <andi5> you almost always need -dev packages if you want to compile and link against libs :)
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17:12:21 <andi5> is not there something like `apt-get builddeps gnucash`?
17:12:22 <Rolf> OK
17:12:43 <Rolf> yes, if you have the official ubuntu sources
17:12:51 <Rolf> but I don't want those
17:12:54 <Rolf> I want svn
17:13:09 <jsled> But, it'll at least do the grunt-work of getting all the deps in place.
17:13:14 <jsled> then it'll be easy to build svn.
17:15:36 <Rolf> that is true
17:18:38 <cstim_zzz> chris: thank
17:18:42 <cstim_zzz> s
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17:19:06 <andi5> is he still awake?
17:19:28 <cstim_zzzzz> no
17:19:43 <andi5> i see
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17:20:09 <chris> It was those last couple z's that did it.
17:20:25 <conrad> Damn. Was about to congratulate him.
17:20:53 <andi5> i was getting tired even by counting the z's
17:20:56 <conrad> @tell cstim Congratulations!
17:20:56 <gncbot> conrad: The operation succeeded.
17:22:40 <andi5> OK GUYS, r16000 wants YOU
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18:20:12 <hampton> I think andi5 just wanted his name by r16000
18:20:38 <jsled> heh.
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18:22:55 <andi5> now i have r15000 and r16000.... world domination tomorrow evening?
18:23:29 <jsled> nice.
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18:34:48 <hampton> lol
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23:36:17 <zach> so svn build shows this message 3 times on startup: /home/shared/gnucash/Austin2006:31: element gnc-v2: Schemas validity error : Element 'gnc-v2': No matching global declaration available for the validation root.
23:36:28 <zach> 2.0.5 does not