2007-04-22 GnuCash IRC logs
00:08:42 <fell> Hi Chris!
00:10:23 <fell> After submitting http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=432143 I feel tired and go to bed.
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00:57:29 <conrad> ==26399== malloc/free: in use at exit: 125,795,193 bytes in 3,369,239 blocks.
00:57:29 <conrad> ==26399== malloc/free: 3,580,241 allocs, 211,002 frees, 165,594,285 bytes allocated.
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01:05:03 <warlord> hiya conrad
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01:06:40 <conrad> Hiya warlord
01:07:12 <warlord> so... you were running gnucash under valgrind, eh?
01:07:21 <conrad> Yup.
01:07:25 <warlord> I believe there's some way to ask valgrind to tell you about memory leaks.
01:08:04 <conrad> Trying to demonstrate the memory loss when you open a new file (looks like we're not freeing the memory from the first data file)
01:08:21 <warlord> Oh, that's quite possible.
01:08:45 <conrad> Unfortunately, it keeps loading my big datafile, not the test one I'd rather it loaded.
01:09:10 <conrad> The big one runs me out of virtual memory :-(
01:09:29 <warlord> you can try /path/to/gnucash /path/to/test-date
01:09:49 <conrad> Yeah, I'm about to do just that.
01:11:13 <conrad> Actually, looks like it didn't save the test file I made. I'll try that again (it segfaulted on exit, but I thought it had saved first)
01:16:43 <warlord> okay, i gotta run. plane in under 6 hours.
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12:35:11 <zach> does 15953 fix the "* CRIT <gnc.engine> xaccAccountGetFullName: assertion `GNC_IS_ACCOUNT(account)' failed" log messages?
12:38:43 <jsled> No.
12:39:39 <jsled> zach: re: computed loan payments: yes ... that's been a desire for a long time.
12:40:13 <zach> is there a bug written for those CRIT errors already? or is that not a problem?
12:40:27 <zach> jsled: cool on the computed loan payments
12:40:50 <jsled> There's not a bug yet. They probably should be resolved.
12:40:57 <jsled> Or at least understood.
12:41:26 <zach> I'll enter a bug on that then..
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12:45:10 <paparent> hey guys, I'm from quebec, and setup my Tax, but it show one cents below the supposed amount (doesnt round-up) what can i do?!
12:46:59 <jsled> setup your Tax? What do you mean?
12:50:24 <jsled> (sorry, I actually need to go... )
12:50:41 <paparent> :S
12:50:48 <paparent> well, in quebec we have 2 taxes.
12:51:10 <paparent> so i enter the amount in the Tax Table
12:51:31 <paparent> and when i enter a Bill, the final amount is example 400,02 instead of 400,03
12:51:50 <paparent> (when i do the operation manually it's like 400,025678
12:51:59 <paparent> so it doesnt round-up
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14:03:09 <hampton> zach and jsled: what are you doing to see that message?
14:04:20 <zach> simply selecting a entry in a register will cause that message to show up
14:04:33 <zach> every time.. each new selection results in another leg message
14:04:48 <zach> I'm running under windows, fyi
14:04:52 <hampton> which register?
14:05:17 <zach> any account register causes the error
14:05:28 <zach> i started a new file and went into the 'checking' account
14:05:45 <zach> and even selecting the empty register entry causes the error
14:06:51 <hampton> I just created a new set of accounts, opened the check register, and added an entry. I don't see the problem.
14:07:23 <zach> hmm... i was using jsled's log.conf file to create the log...
14:07:41 <zach> http://asynchronous.org/tmp/sx-log.conf
14:07:43 <hampton> ah, makes a difference if you're in journam mode.
14:07:47 <hampton> journal
14:08:41 <zach> fyi, I logged a bug for this: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=432314
14:08:56 <hampton> ok
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14:24:52 <fell> paparent: why should it round, if you setup an amount? Or did you mean a rate?
14:28:23 <paparent> fell: well, here in quebec, if it's 10.5 cents, it'll be 11 cents
14:30:50 <fell> paparent: but I think, the tax is a RATE like 5% and no fix AMOUNT like 5cent?
14:31:00 <hampton> zach: 15987 will solve your problem.
14:31:42 <zach> cool. thanks
14:32:10 <paparent> nope
14:32:27 <paparent> tax of 6%, so amount * 1.06
14:32:56 <paparent> and we have a provincial tax of 7.5 % that tax the other taxe too... so i've 2 taxes, 6 and 7.95
14:35:15 <fell> I am in Germany and at this time testing some tax features in the svn branch.
14:36:19 <fell> It looks very interesting for me, what you say. Different rules in rounding seems important.
14:38:02 <fell> I think we, the minority of business users should start a page in the wiki and collect the different requirements
14:39:28 <paparent> so, all the decimals are removed ? well, from the third position?
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14:41:14 <fell> yesterday I opened a section in the german wiki for the same theme:http://linuxwiki.de/GnuCash/WeiterEntwicklung#head-ab4016dbb743f35190c72761617a2fa6dec6d800
14:42:13 <fell> I think, the number of decimals depends on your local settings.
14:44:13 <tpfennig> hi all
14:44:24 <fell> Hi Thilo!
14:45:41 <tpfennig> fell: havent compiled with new options yet
14:45:44 <tpfennig> I think I do now.
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14:47:36 <fell> tpfennig: do it, it looks interesting. andi5 made some enhancements.
14:48:05 <tpfennig> first I have to find out again what I do need for xnest... ;)
14:48:34 <fell> tpfennig: xnest???
14:48:49 <tpfennig> thats a x11 login inside a session
14:49:05 <fell> ach so
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15:11:05 <BrianHV> are mutual fund quotes supposed to have some impact on the mutual fund ledgers?
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15:11:18 <BrianHV> or values reported in reports, or anything like that?
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15:17:31 <tpfennig> fell: now compiling with --enable-local-specific-tax
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15:24:20 <fell> tpfennig: yes, and may be --prefix=... to save the running system
15:24:40 <tpfennig> yeah I just realised this and do it now
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15:31:19 <fell> tpfennig: GDPdU?
15:31:32 <tpfennig> ?
15:33:07 <fell> tpfennig: gnucash-de@lists.gnucash.org
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15:47:24 <andi5> fell: why do you think i changed the "tax table editor"?
15:50:43 <fell> andi5: I opened GC with LC..=de.. and couldn't find the scrollbar in "Steuerrelevante ...", then I found them in "Steuertabelle"
15:51:08 <andi5> but you can resize the dialog now... make it small enough and you will see scrollbars
15:51:55 <fell> Now I changed to LC_all="C" to get the right names
15:52:42 <andi5> fell: btw, you might want to change LANG instead
15:54:35 <fell> andi5: where is it better for?
15:56:08 <andi5> LC_ALL overrides all LC_* variables, whereas LANG sets a default for the variables that are unset.... LANGUAGE (a gnu extension, i think) provides yet another way to specify fallback locales (de;fr for example)
15:57:32 <andi5> (that way you can could change the used locale but keep your LC_MONETARY)
15:59:51 <fell> andi5: Ah, if the dialog is not fullsized, I get a scrollbar for nearly the length of the first level
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16:06:46 <andi5> fell: so do you need something different?
16:11:09 <fell> andi5: yes, much more. I will make a picture or you can test my old accounttree: http://www.mataram.de/downloads/gnucash/acctchrt_skr04-05.gnucash-xea.bz2
16:12:13 <andi5> ah... so you want to resize the left part?
16:13:07 <fell> yes, it is important,to see at the end of the name the tax rate.
16:13:28 <andi5> ok... i did not understand that (should read more thoroughly)
16:13:47 <andi5> will look at it next week
16:15:11 <fell> Fine, and also the buttons http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=432143?
16:16:00 <andi5> i can make a patch, but i do not know whether this is wanted (i am not an accountant)... we will see
16:16:04 <andi5> have to go... bye
16:16:23 <fell> andi5: bye
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16:27:40 <bx2> Can the invoice numbers be set to start higher?
16:28:16 <jsled> I believe so. IIRC, the current counter value is in the datafile.
16:28:53 <jsled> So, determine the current value. Close gnucash. BACKUP YOUR DATAFILE. Open it up in a text editor. Search for the counter value. Edit. Save. Reopen. Bob's your uncle.
16:28:53 <bx2> i'm a nub so tell me how to get there and do it? if you can
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16:38:02 <bx2> I can change it but will it continue from the changed number forward or return to 0002 or what?
16:38:42 <jsled> It should use the changed number.
17:04:11 <bx2> o.k. i've edited all the numbers and saved it but none of them appear changed when i open gnu back up
17:07:16 <tpfennig> fell: ok ready compiled. starting it.
17:10:13 <tpfennig> maybe one could include some localized tax table?
17:10:56 <fell> tpfennig: what are your locale settings?
17:11:37 <tpfennig> LANG=de_DE.UTF-8
17:12:32 <fell> Surface is dütsch?
17:13:21 <fell> Currency: EUR?
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17:14:08 <tpfennig> yep
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17:15:21 <tpfennig> fell: where should I see new features?
17:15:26 <fell> tpfennig: cd ~/unstable/gnucash/bin;./gnucash
17:15:35 <tpfennig> fell: already started
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17:18:05 <fell> tpfennig:Testdatei laden oder Konten anlegen, dann ggf. Geschäft->Steuertabellen erstellen; schließlich Bearbeiten->Steuerrelevante Optionen...
17:19:46 <fell> ... Konten den USTVA-Kennzahlen zuordnen. Danach erscheinen in Berichte->Steuerbericht... die Werte aus den Konten
17:21:30 <tpfennig> under txf catergories?
17:22:08 <tpfennig> I only see american tax cats there I think
17:22:10 <pawlowsm> Brand new user (first hour). Setting up accounts. I am entering amounts for stocks from account balances. Now I have some previous trades I am trying to organize. Any idea how to represent this using double entries?
17:24:51 <fell> tpfennig: verschieden von dem Bild in ttp://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=86758&action=view?
17:26:07 <tpfennig> fell: join #gnucash-de ?
17:26:14 <tpfennig> ja
17:26:19 <tpfennig> ganz anders
17:27:21 <fell> seems like http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=431510
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17:44:08 <fell> pawlowsm: Opening Balances is your friend
17:46:01 <zach> pawlowsm: fell is right. to enter some trades, enter them, then adjust your opening balance transaction to make your current balance correct
17:57:12 <pawlowsm> Thanks. I am playing on trying win32 2.1.0. If I create a stock account the opening balance tab has everything disabled.
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19:22:28 <hampton> pawlowsm: Just go into the stock account and enter the old trades, using Equity:Opening Balance at the source of the money.
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19:58:47 <zach> just compiled latest for windows... groovy new icon.
19:59:29 <zach> but compared to the png icons it looks terrible (looks like poor conversion from png to ico or something)
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20:01:12 <zach> googled this: http://www.winterdrache.de/freeware/png2ico/ and used it to convert 32x32 png to ico and that looks MUCH better
20:05:27 <fell> zach: as warlord would say: send a patch.
20:09:53 <zach> done... http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=432425
20:27:58 <hampton> Are icons required to be 32x32? The one already in the sources is 48x48 and looks better than the one you submitted.
20:28:36 <hampton> well, looks the same just has more detail because its larger.
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21:21:23 <zach> hampton: you're right. I recreated the .ico file so it would include all 3 sizes.
21:28:59 <hampton> Odd that your file is smaller, but has 3 version of the icon as opposed to the original 1 version.
21:46:34 <zach> that is odd.. but now it looks better both in explorer (detail view, with 16x16l icon) and on my desktop (32x32).
21:53:44 <hampton> ok. will commit it.
21:54:28 <zach> cool
21:55:14 <zach> one new thing I just noticed with the version I just compiled... The summary bar shows up every time I open gnucash.
21:55:33 <zach> it is unchecked in the 'view' menu, though
21:55:44 <zach> and if I check, then uncheck it, it goes away
21:55:47 <zach> until next restart
21:56:11 <pawlowsm> Asset bar chart is real foobar. One account when from 99K to 9MILLION. What is a good way of submitting a bug report, but not giving my data. Can I just say what the problem is.
21:56:58 <hampton> can you recreate the problem with a test data file?
22:00:04 <hampton> zach: happens for the toolbar and statusbar too.
22:00:39 <zach> makes sense, I suppose...
22:01:14 <zach> dinner time. You can write it up or I'll do it when I get back..
22:01:33 <hampton> my guess would be the recent change to keep the window hidden until fully loaded caused some problem.
22:01:53 <hampton> The edit menu correctly shows what the stat should be.
22:02:09 <hampton> Ah, I bet someone added a _show_all() call.
22:06:20 <hampton> fixed
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