2007-04-20 GnuCash IRC logs
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00:45:27 <dbr> is half a patch better than no patch for an enhancement request?
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10:00:07 <warlord> Sometimes I love having a backup network :)
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10:00:52 <hampton> sometime I love not having a backup network and having a day off. ;-)
10:00:58 <jsled> heh
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10:03:49 <warlord> Oh, you see I wouldn't GET a day off. I'd just have an annoying day.
10:06:02 <warlord> But Vz came and extracted my T1 card.. So right now I'm running on backup bits.
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11:17:44 <glide> greets
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11:20:59 <glide> How do you handle the Imbalance account that keeps popping up when you enter negative opening balances?
11:21:37 <jsled> you correct the balance on the transaction.
11:21:57 <glide> jsled: so all transactions should come out to zero?
11:22:19 <jsled> All transaction splits should balance; the sum of every transaction should be 0, yes.
11:22:21 <glide> i'm trying to enter my mortage, but it seems to want to create both an increase and a decrease
11:22:43 <jsled> Have you read the tutorial and concepts guide?
11:23:20 <glide> jsled: yes, on the mortage part, enter as a transaction in the asset account, value of house increase, mortgage balance decrease...
11:23:27 <warlord> glide: right... "Equity:Opening Balance" is your friend
11:24:24 <glide> so, estimate my equity, and create an opening balance on that, then use it to transfer the mortage out of it
11:25:09 <warlord> Um, no.
11:25:12 <warlord> glide: go read the docs.
11:25:17 <glide> k
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11:27:36 <glide> i was a quicken user for years, so this is a bit new to me
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11:29:02 <jsled> The transactions that have flows from outside the books come from either Income, Liability or Equity.
11:29:20 <jsled> Probably in this case, you want to establish the initial value of a Liability (mortgage) account, right?
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11:41:33 <glide> jsled: positive or negative opening balance in liability account?
11:42:09 <jsled> which ever's appropriate. :)
11:42:43 <jsled> Most likely, for liability, the liability account value will be positive, and thus the opening-balance equity will be negative.
11:43:13 <jsled> (assuming you haven't changed the default "credit/debit account inversion" option)
11:43:28 <glide> nope :)
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11:45:32 <glide> so entering opening balance of -100000 in the liability account will show up as (100000), then when I transfer from chequing to liability:mortage, it will show up as an increase in liability
11:45:41 <glide> and a decrease in chequing
11:46:03 <jsled> no; if you're paying down a liability from checking, it should decrease both.
11:47:31 <glide> hm...gotta step out. bbl
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14:56:20 <warlord> hiya benoitg
14:56:29 <benoitg> warlord: Hi
14:57:18 <warlord> how goes it?
15:00:01 <warlord> benoitg: wouldn't we need r15943 in trunk, too?
15:00:12 <benoitg> I'm the man in the enternal professional transition ;)
15:00:34 <warlord> Oh? How are you transitioning now?
15:00:35 <benoitg> warlord: Didn't try to compile trunk yet
15:01:00 <benoitg> But at least I know my SVN access still works ;)
15:01:05 <warlord> Ahh, well usually we make changes in trunk first and then backport to 2.0; but in this case the patch is trivial enough.
15:01:10 <warlord> True.
15:01:46 <benoitg> I may do a year or two of corporate life.
15:02:05 <benoitg> My current occupations just do not pay enough.
15:02:21 <warlord> Uh oh! Gonna work for The Man!
15:02:38 <benoitg> Something like that...
15:03:00 <warlord> :)
15:03:08 <warlord> Well, paying the bills is always a good thing.
15:03:57 <benoitg> Yep. Unfortunately, writing a CV for my rather unusual experience profile has proved more challenging than I had anticipated.
15:04:40 <benoitg> But not fitting on the forms isn't new for me...
15:06:52 <benoitg> warlord: How about you, haw have things been? We didn't talk much since your last visit to Montreal.
15:07:01 <benoitg> ^how
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15:10:00 <warlord> I'm doing okay. Life's been good. Work is going well.
15:11:07 <benoitg> Excellent!
15:11:13 <warlord> Yeah.
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18:22:54 <benoitg> warlord: Gnucash SVN compiled as is, there was no need for the patch.
18:23:05 <warlord> benoitg: Ah, okay.
18:27:51 <warlord> Well, I'm glad that SVN compiles for you.
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18:59:03 <warlord> biab
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20:25:00 <chris> jsled: ping?
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20:36:13 <fell> good evening
20:37:27 <fell> 'aclocal:configure.in:51: warning: macro `AM_GCONF_SOURCE_2' not found in library' means I am missing ...?
20:38:55 <warlord> fell: Gconf2 devel
20:39:11 <fell> Thanks!
20:40:08 <warlord> NP
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21:30:15 <chris> so, it looks like download rates for the win32 .exe gnucash is 10x the rate for the tarball.
21:31:00 <warlord> chris: not all that surprising.. many people just use the binary from their distro, and we dont get good numbers from that.
21:31:22 <chris> perhaps because linux users are more accustom to waiting for their distro to package new stuff... yeah.
21:32:16 <warlord> I suspect that if we had a MacOS binary installer available THAT would also outweigh the source tarball.
21:34:44 <warlord> anyways i'm off. late.
21:34:46 <warlord> later
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23:30:43 <fell> Merde, I can not build on my older machines. None has SWIG 1.3.27
23:31:08 <fell> 1.3.28 I meant
23:33:05 <fell> and Dapper is less than 1 year old