2007-04-18 GnuCash IRC logs
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00:40:14 <hampton> hiya warlord
00:40:16 <warlord> hi
00:41:00 <hampton> I'm seriously considering buying a new alarm clock..... http://www.nandahome.com/products.clocky.html
00:41:21 <warlord> dbr: Oops... gnc_module_load() needs to stay the same..
00:42:58 <warlord> hampton: cute
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00:53:30 <dbr> should be able to fix that quickly
00:53:59 <warlord> You should try to compile with your changes. It wont run or pass "make check", but make sure it compiles.
00:56:30 <warlord> Then I'll commit it all with my change.
01:06:04 <dbr> do I need to run configure again?
01:07:17 <warlord> no
01:07:34 <dbr> ok. it's attempting to compile
01:10:58 <warlord> ok
01:15:09 <dbr> oops. problem in gncmod-test. compiling again.
01:15:23 <warlord> ok
01:35:05 <dbr> whee. I get to undo about a third of my substitutions because I didn't notice symbols .ne. functions :O
01:35:24 <warlord> Oops. Sorry.
01:36:15 <dbr> eh. I learned something. Maybe I'll even remember it...
01:36:31 <warlord> heh
01:49:09 <dbr> replace all is evil
01:50:57 <warlord> Yeah..
01:51:13 <warlord> That's why i didn't suggest M-x replace-string, sed, perl, etc.
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02:06:13 <warlord> good morning, andi5
02:06:17 <andi5> moin
02:06:26 * warlord is about to head to bed.
02:06:33 <andi5> how is your conversion going on?
02:06:40 <warlord> dbr: email me the diff when you're done and I'll apply tomorrow.
02:06:49 <dbr> ok.
02:07:05 <warlord> andi5: I've got the gnc-module code done. dbr is working onthe changes. I'll apply them all in the morning, but I need to go to bed now.
02:07:25 <dbr> My cluelessness has kept him up too late...
02:07:27 <andi5> may i quickly take a look at your diff? out of curiosity :)
02:07:31 <andi5> dbr: lol
02:08:17 <warlord> Mine or his?
02:08:22 <andi5> yours
02:08:31 <dbr> eeehaaa. done with edits.
02:08:53 <andi5> i think i understand what dbr is doing :)
02:09:40 <andi5> dbr: nice job! have not yet seen it, but there a loads of files to edit :)
02:10:42 <dbr> Finding the files was easy - avoiding whacking function names along with symbols took more thought than I applied ;)
02:12:02 <andi5> yes, i did not need to do that back then
02:12:52 <warlord> andi5: http://pastebin.ca/445971
02:15:17 <warlord> good nght
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02:25:38 <andi5> hm... /me is too dumb
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02:29:21 <dbr> and now I've been up too long. goodnight all.
02:29:43 <andi5> good night, dbr
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04:37:44 <tpfennig> hi all
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10:09:23 <warlord> @op
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10:15:51 <Chintan> Hello warlord, I guess you are my mentor for GSoC
10:15:51 <gncbot> Chintan: Sent 1 day, 17 hours, and 50 minutes ago: <conrad> Welcome to Gnucash. Glad the advice was effective for you :-)
10:16:49 <warlord> Hi Chintan
10:18:37 <Chintan> Any suggestions on how I should go about "my first open source project"!
10:19:11 <warlord> Well, first thing I would suggest: Get yourself a development environment. Make sure you can build gnucash from the sources in SVN.
10:19:52 <Chintan> Ok.
10:19:56 <jsled> http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Building
10:20:23 <Chintan> thanks.
10:22:03 <Chintan> I installed Gnucash on my PC through synaptic(Ubuntu)
10:22:45 <Chintan> Will get hand of manually building it too
10:23:54 <warlord> Chintan: you could start with 'apt-get build-dep gnucash' --- assuming syntaptic has gnucash-2
10:24:17 <jsled> Currency accounts are deprecated, no?
10:26:59 <warlord> jsled: yes
10:27:08 <Chintan> Actually synaptic did not have gnucash-2. That's why I anyway planned to install the newer version manually.
10:27:19 <jsled> hmm. Do we have something to point people at if they're using them? I don't see anything in the FAQ.
10:27:24 <warlord> @tell dbr you still need to update the locally defined functions, too.
10:27:24 <gncbot> warlord: The operation succeeded.
10:27:55 <warlord> Chintan: what version of gnucash does synaptic have? (note that it wouldn't be called gncuash-2)
10:28:07 <jsled> Wait, no. We just say "use a normal Asset account denominated in the correct currency."
10:28:07 <jsled> ?
10:31:50 <warlord> jsled: yes
10:32:48 <Chintan> If I am not wrong it was 1.8. It certainly was not 2. Though I'll check once more.
10:38:32 <warlord> Chintan: oh, what version of ubuntu?
10:38:38 <warlord> gnucash-2 was first in 6.10
10:38:55 <warlord> if you're using an older version, then yes, you'll need to pull the dependencies down manually.
10:39:23 <Chintan> still using breezy badger :(
10:40:05 <warlord> sorry, but names mean nothin to me
10:40:13 <Chintan> i.e. 5.10(sorry)
10:40:26 <warlord> it's ok.
10:40:37 <warlord> i dont follow ubuntu.. i use fedora
10:40:53 <Chintan> oh
10:41:54 <Chintan> For me its been ubuntu all the way
10:42:09 <warlord> That's fine.
10:42:31 <Chintan> Ya, should not be a problem
10:43:11 <warlord> Anyways, when you start to build from trunk you'll need to pull down the gnome2 dev environment pieces as you hit issues during ./autogen.sh and ./configure
10:43:56 <Chintan> Ok. I guess I should be able to do that
10:44:09 <Chintan> Taking one error at a time :)
10:44:16 <tedcx> Bug 430834 – QIF import creates duplicate Asset accounts has a screen capture. View snapshot3.jpg
10:44:59 <warlord> tedcx: can you also update the bug report with an example datafile? I think just using File -> Export Accounts would be sufficient to show the starting account structure.
10:46:55 <jsled> Chintan: there is README.dependencies, which lists many of the packages we require, if you don't want ot keep banging your head against ./configure.
10:47:07 <jsled> Also, just looking through configure.in is instructive.
10:47:11 <tedcx> asset.qif is attached to one of the comments
10:47:49 <Chintan> ok
10:49:09 <tedcx> warlord: Done
10:50:36 <warlord> tedcx: no no no ... I wanted the account hierachy BEFORE the qif import.
10:52:17 <Chintan> warlord, jsled: Thanks for the guidance. It was nice talking to you(You can't imagine how excited I already feel). Will keep you updated with my progress.
10:52:49 <warlord> Chintan: great. you're welcome to hang out here, too.
10:52:51 <warlord> We're usually here.
10:53:26 <Chintan> Yup, thanks.
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11:21:28 <tedcx> warlord: before and after file export accounts are added. thanks.
11:22:38 <warlord> I saw the after. I didn't need the after, just the before.
11:22:53 <tedcx> good
11:35:24 <warlord> I dont know why you attached the "after" twice.
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13:07:31 <hampton> Interesting..... looking at the 'make check' errors on my last account changes leads me to the test xml2 data file conrads-file.gml2, which has a split that specifies the account with guid 00000000000000000000000000000000. Anyone know if this is intentional?
13:08:00 <jsled> I don't know.
13:08:23 <warlord> That looks... wrong.
13:09:01 <hampton> It got flagged by a change from "if (!acc) return" to "g_return_if_fail(GNC_IS_ACCOUNT(acc))"
13:09:16 <hampton> I'll make it match the other transactions in the file.
13:11:46 <warlord> Yeah, it's not valid to have an account with a NULL GUID.
13:36:41 <warlord> FTR, I think the xml parser should throw an error if it finds a NULL GUID.
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14:20:42 <hampton> warlord: I've changed couple of silent returns in the xml parser with g_return_val_if_fail() so that the code will complain.
14:21:44 <warlord> ok.
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15:23:49 <tedcx> warlord: the two attachments are for before and after asset.qif import..
15:24:16 <warlord> tedcx: there are more than two attachments.
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15:34:23 <tedcx> look at "exported accounts before qif import" and "exported accounts after asset.qif import"
15:38:55 <warlord> tedcx: I have.. How about YOU look at the "file -> export accounts" attachments, which is effectively a duplicate of the "export account after assets.qif import" attachment. I.e., you attached the "after" state twice.. But you needed to attach the "after" state ZERO times!
15:45:12 <tedcx> well looking at the diff between the two files " <act:description>QIF import: Name conflict with another account.</act:description." seems to be a problem
15:47:28 <warlord> that's not surprising...
15:47:53 <warlord> And I guess supplying too much data is better than not enough.. But I was just pointing out what you did.
15:50:19 <tedcx> so looking at the qif file, what's the error?
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15:52:04 <warlord> I dont know. I haven't looked.
15:52:27 <andi5> tedcx: have you tried to delete Assets2?
15:52:28 <warlord> I'm doing paid work righ tnow
15:52:51 <warlord> andi5: the problem is that the qif importer creates Assets2 in the first place when it (probably) shouldnt
15:53:27 <andi5> warlord: yep, i am just asking whether this is a work-around (there is a bug report already, you know)
15:54:59 <warlord> tedcx: Weird.. Assets2 is considered an Income account.
15:55:17 <andi5> ohhh
15:56:12 <warlord> Oh, I think I know.. You used L.. instead of L[...]
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15:56:48 <warlord> Change your qif to use an Account form (L[...]) instead of a Category form (L...) and it should work.
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16:24:53 <tedcx> Looks like its in the excel->qif addin, but that can be fixed with an editor
16:26:23 <tedcx> looks like the rule is that Assets and Liabilities need L[Assets:Current Assets:Checking Account:acct1] and L[Liabilities:Credit Cards:ccard1] but LExpenses:Utilities:Electric does not
16:27:20 <warlord> Correct.
16:27:36 <warlord> Qif has this concept of "Accounts" and Categories.
16:27:43 <warlord> Accounts are assets and liabilities.
16:27:51 <warlord> Categories are income and expenses
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16:31:29 <tedcx> Aha. Thanks. I have to deal with csv files and the Excel2Qif converter works fine, one one figures that out.
16:32:48 <tedcx> would it be possible to add a csv import? My credit union stopped providing qif files - they have a problem with Intuit's fees or something
16:33:08 <warlord> Sure! Send in the code.
16:36:32 <hampton> :-P
16:37:05 <warlord> something wrong, hampton ?
16:37:33 <hampton> No, nothing. Just responding to "send in the code". ;)
16:38:00 <warlord> oh. ok.
16:38:13 * hampton is a little punchy today...
16:41:56 <warlord> apparently
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16:45:32 <hampton> Hi-C Fruit Punch? Thanks, chris!
16:46:09 <tedcx> OK. How do I get the debug version built for ddd? I can ---enable-debug but when I set a breakpoint at qif-parse.c:338, ddd carps < line 1 of "qif-parse.c" is at address 0x2acf9297795c <qif_register_handler> but contains no code.>
16:51:50 <warlord> How do you start ddd?
16:51:59 <warlord> (or, how do you start gnucash within ddd?)
16:52:06 * warlord has never used ddd, only gdb
16:59:16 <tedcx> just hack the gnucash shell script to exec ddd gnucash-bin "$@". DDD sees the sources but doesn't want to break except for .main
17:01:42 * andi5 is building from tarball now
17:01:52 <warlord> maybe ddd doesn't like loadable modules?
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17:28:00 <tedcx> warlord: how about a static build?
17:28:42 <warlord> No such beast.. and gnucash wont work with a static build.
17:28:50 <warlord> Try using gdb?
17:29:23 <tedcx> --enable-static ?
17:29:48 <warlord> tedcx: what part of "gnucash wont work with a static build" are you failing to understand?
17:30:45 <andi5> [ot] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuqZ8AqmLPY
17:32:56 <warlord> andi5: that ad has been on TV for months..
17:33:00 <warlord> (at least here in the US)
17:35:42 <andi5> oh, i did not know it before
17:36:15 <warlord> there's a whole series of Mac ads like that.
17:36:39 <andi5> reminds me of novell ads i saw before that one
17:38:00 <warlord> Yeah... THOSE are spoofs of this one.
17:38:16 <andi5> ok
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18:20:56 <warlord> @tell dbr I'm working on it now.
18:20:56 <gncbot> warlord: The operation succeeded.
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19:31:50 <warlord> Okay, trunk should (hopefully) work on macintel now.
19:39:57 <tedcx> Didier is changing his Xcel2Qif addin to square bracket any Asset or Liabilities lines. Any comments?
19:40:51 <warlord> sounds right to me
19:42:50 <warlord> okay, I'm off to run some errands.
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20:00:02 <tedcx> the qif line "LIncome:Salary" is incorrectly mapped automatically to Income:Salary:(Spouse)
20:01:18 <jsled> tedcx: Did you previous map it that way?
20:01:34 <jsled> previously, even.
20:02:34 <jsled> AIUI, the QIF importer doesn't do any automatic mapping, but only uses what you've previously indicated.
20:05:10 <tedcx> what file is this info in? I'm deleting the log files before each re-execute of gnucash but that must not be sufficient. It just mapped correctly from what I thought was a clean start.
20:06:04 <jsled> ~/.gnucash/qif-account-map, I believe.
20:08:27 <tedcx> qif-accounts-map, got it. more files to freshen. thanks.
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21:51:39 <ahmedSayed> Hi all,
21:51:39 <gncbot> ahmedSayed: Sent 6 days, 11 hours, and 44 minutes ago: <warlord> Hi. It was 5am US/EDT when you came in. Missed me by a few hours (I got online around 8:30). The subscription message should be automated; it doesn't require any manual intervention to subscribe to -devel.
21:53:19 <warlord> hiya ahmedSayed
21:53:55 <ahmedSayed> I just want to say Hello and introduce myself to the gnucash team
21:54:09 <warlord> welcome.
21:54:27 <ahmedSayed> you know that i got to SOC this year
21:54:49 <warlord> Yes, we know.
21:55:15 <ahmedSayed> and if you you have any question regarding my proposal or myself
21:55:29 <ahmedSayed> i'll be glade to answer it :)
21:55:38 <warlord> I need to send out a "welcome" message to all our students.
21:55:55 <nbinont> congrats ahmedsayed!
21:55:58 <warlord> ahmedSayed: jsled is your mentor. Do you have any questions for us?
21:57:01 <ahmedSayed> no i don't have a specific questions for now, i just want to introduce myself :)
21:58:21 <warlord> Okay. Hi. :)
21:58:35 <ahmedSayed> thank you, warlord, thank you, nbinont
22:01:26 <warlord> Congrats on being selected.
22:02:42 <ahmedSayed> thank you, warlord
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22:03:53 <dbr> hi all
22:03:53 <gncbot> dbr: Sent 11 hours and 36 minutes ago: <warlord> you still need to update the locally defined functions, too.
22:03:54 <gncbot> dbr: Sent 3 hours and 42 minutes ago: <warlord> I'm working on it now.
22:04:23 <dbr> damn code monkey. Didn't know what he was doing. ;)
22:04:43 <nbinont> lol
22:04:57 <warlord> Hehehe
22:05:05 <dbr> Thanks warlord. as soon as we get a swig install fixed, I'm pretty sure I'll get a macintel test
22:05:10 <warlord> dbr: already committed. Can you test?
22:05:25 <warlord> Ok
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22:13:53 <warlord> @op
22:13:53 <gncbot`> warlord: Error: I need to be opped to op someone.
22:16:12 <warlord> chris, hampton, jsled: could one of you op gncbot`
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22:20:16 <warlord> @nick gncbot
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22:23:49 <warlord> thanks hampton
22:24:01 <hampton> np
22:24:13 <hampton> just passing through and heard my terminal ding.
22:24:26 <warlord> Good. :)
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22:36:15 <dbr> warlord: you repeated a name on your gsoc email -- did the fourth get omitted?
22:37:31 <warlord> OOPS.
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22:39:04 <warlord> Fixed.
22:39:06 <warlord> Thanks
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23:47:38 <warlord> good night, all.
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23:47:44 <ElllisD> is there a way to view a list of all customers & / or vendors?
23:47:47 <warlord> dbr: let me know if the macintel build works?
23:48:15 <warlord> ElllisD: Business -> Find Customer ... [Matches Regex] "."
23:48:36 <warlord> anyways, I gotta run.
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23:48:55 <ElllisD> warlord: tyvm
23:49:24 <dbr> warlord-afk: I will. I don't think he's seen my latest swig suggestion. He's been to irc tonight, and he noticed the commit log, so he's interested.
23:53:31 <fell> Knows anybody something about locale-specific-tax ?
23:53:56 <jsled> what about it?
23:54:47 <fell> I get an Error: gncmod-tax-us.c: In function 'gnc_module_path':gncmod-tax-us.c:27: error: 'LC_ALL' undeclared (first use in this function)
23:55:09 <jsled> fell: http://svn.gnucash.org/trac/changeset/15931
23:55:22 <jsled> Did you file the gentoo gnucash-2.1.0 bug?
23:56:03 <fell> No bugs until today, only suggestions, misssing links and so on
23:57:49 <jsled> Ah, well, a comment on said bug mentioned that option did not work; that commit resolves the issues I see, at least.
23:59:42 <fell> So, this is not in trunk, I have to apply self?