2007-04-06 GnuCash IRC logs
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00:15:45 <dbr> I think it's funny too, but it's a little sick to happen across roadkill and then decorate it for the season
00:17:24 <dbr> hampto1: There is a difference in the log files for successful f::q and failed: http://www.pastebin.ca/426457
00:17:42 <dbr> does the #eof bring anything to mind for you?
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00:37:40 <hampto1> my guess would be the perl search path is different in the two cases
00:38:04 <hampto1> In the latter F::Q isn't able to find one of the modules it needs and throws an error
00:39:00 <dbr> OK. Time for me to visit the fink gurus to get their advice.
00:39:32 <dbr> thanks
00:41:07 <hampto1> you could try adding a couple of print statements to gnc-fq-helper to see what paths its using. You'd need to print to a file though.
00:47:27 <dbr> so gnc-fq-helper is perl?
00:48:12 <hampto1> its the scheme-to-perl translator
00:48:35 <hampto1> scheme in/out on one side, calls to F::Q on the other side
00:48:44 <hampto1> written in perl
00:49:15 <dbr> ah. that's the part I wanted to check.
00:49:30 * dbr fears the result of 'man perl' though...
00:49:52 <hampto1> that's a simple one. just refers you to a bunch of other man pages
00:50:07 <dbr> xyzzy
00:50:19 <hampto1> plugh
00:50:39 <dbr> something about a maze of twisty little passages IIRC
00:51:03 <dbr> I never did learn that game, either
00:51:11 <hampto1> lol
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07:55:17 <warlord> good morning, andi5
07:55:38 <andi5> morning :)
07:58:34 <warlord> how are you doing?
07:58:54 * andi5 is @phone :)
07:59:01 <warlord> Ah. ok.
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08:16:14 * andi5 leaves :-) ... see you
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08:53:11 <jsled> Hmm. Prelim student allocations sometime after 21:30 UTC today.
08:55:11 <warlord> Ok...
08:55:20 <warlord> I suppose I should go through the apps and mark them.
08:55:27 <jsled> mark them?
08:55:35 <jsled> Oh, yeah, you should.
08:57:04 <jsled> have today off?
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08:58:40 <warlord> LOL. No, I wish.
09:28:17 <warlord> looks like google dealt with the Dups
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14:40:16 <HADES\stephans> hello?
14:40:39 <HADES\stephans> Is anybody out there? ere... ere r. r. r.
14:40:54 <warlord> nope. nobody here but us lights.
14:40:57 <warlord> ... and we're out.
14:41:05 <HADES\stephans> h ehe
14:41:20 <HADES\stephans> do you know if gnucash will talk to US Bank?
14:41:40 <HADES\stephans> I'd rather avoid buying Quicken...
14:42:17 <HADES\stephans> hmmmm?
14:42:18 <warlord> I don't know.
14:42:21 <HADES\stephans> Bueler....
14:42:22 <warlord> Maybe.
14:42:27 <warlord> PATIENCE, DUDE
14:42:29 <HADES\stephans> hmmm...
14:42:36 <HADES\stephans> ok
14:42:46 <nbinont> you can always try it
14:42:47 <warlord> geeze.. take a valium.. calm down.
14:42:49 <jsled> http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/OFX_Direct_Connect_Bank_Settings doesn't list anything.
14:43:06 <HADES\stephans> ok ok calm...
14:43:11 <jsled> But it's neither exhaustive or complete.
14:43:14 <HADES\stephans> too much coffee.../
14:43:44 <warlord> there are other links off the wiki that might help
14:43:46 <jsled> Pfft. Except for the line I totally overlooked, but it's not all that useful.
14:44:35 <HADES\stephans> wich on of the wikis? There are a few on the topic of gnucash.
14:46:25 <warlord> There is only one gnucash wiki.
14:46:30 <warlord> (in english)
14:47:35 <warlord> gotta run.. biab
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14:49:19 <jsled> I'm only aware of two wikis regarding gnucash.
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15:20:17 <jsled> huh. WTF is up with gnc-ui-util.c:is_decimal_fraction?
15:21:57 <jsled> nevermind.
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16:09:54 <warlord> Oooh... 2.0-branch just crashed on me!
16:10:16 <warlord> Gtk-ERROR **: file gtktreemodelsort.c: line 2426 (gtk_tree_model_sort_clear_cache_helper): assertion failed: (level != NULL)
16:10:17 <warlord> aborting...
16:10:48 <jsled> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=364946
16:11:00 <jsled> dup-a-palooza.
16:13:08 <warlord> Actually, my stack trace is different..
16:15:36 <warlord> OH.. It's a GTK bug, so no workaround for earlier versions..
16:15:42 <warlord> Damn.
16:16:49 <warlord> Oh well..
16:17:56 <hampton> Can you recreate it?
16:21:13 <warlord> I dont know..
16:22:00 <warlord> I was entering a bunch of transactions in a bunch of different registers, creating new accounts from the registers, then changing the account hierarchy from the CoA.. and then I tried to create a new account from a register.
16:22:30 <hampton> one window per register?
16:22:43 <warlord> yes
16:23:01 <hampton> k. I'll try playing with it later.
16:23:32 <warlord> Well, if it's really the Gtk bug as jsled thinks, then I dont know what we can do when using gtk-2.8 (when it was fixed in 2.10.something)
16:24:41 <warlord> I wish we had DnD in the Coa
16:25:22 <hampton> thought maybe something gnucash is doing might trigger the bug
16:25:46 <hampton> on my list of things to eventually implement
16:26:24 <warlord> Ok
16:30:07 <warlord> Woohoo! I just recreated the bug. Luckily I just saved so I didn't lose any data.
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16:38:10 <warlord> I think it's a combination of creating accounts in the register, creating accounts in the CoA, and moving accounts around in the CoA.
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18:00:06 <AlonzoTG> .
18:02:15 <andi5> . o O gnucash-2.0.99-svn-r15815-setup.exe on sf, go get it Oo.
18:04:50 <AlonzoTG> problem: my paycheck is too big for the credit column. =(
18:04:54 <AlonzoTG> wait,
18:04:58 <AlonzoTG> is that really a problem. ;)
18:05:16 <AlonzoTG> but seriously, I have to highlight and scroll to see all digits....
18:05:18 <AlonzoTG> =\
18:05:25 <jsled> widen the column
18:05:27 <AlonzoTG> and I can't really change column size.
18:06:51 <warlord> why can't you change the column size? Grab the right-hand side of the column header and widen it.
18:07:14 <AlonzoTG> When I do that, it either immediately snaps back to where it was or "eats" the adjacent column.
18:07:41 <AlonzoTG> or becomes even smaller.
18:08:14 <warlord> Only the Description column will snap.
18:08:46 <AlonzoTG> eeek, now it has memorized the positions of the colapsed columns and I can't see them anymore.
18:08:52 <AlonzoTG> THANKS FOR THE ADVICE. =\
18:08:57 <warlord> You're welcome.
18:09:11 <AlonzoTG> The debit column is completely missing now. =(
18:09:20 <warlord> Then you did something wrong.
18:10:05 <jsled> AlonzoTG: just double-click on the heading separator where the column should be.
18:10:38 <AlonzoTG> oh, now that's helpful.
18:10:52 <AlonzoTG> Simply dragging the separators was having all kinds of results. =(
18:11:05 <warlord> AlonzoTG: which separator did you drag?
18:11:26 <AlonzoTG> try moving the left side of Transfer to the left,
18:11:40 <AlonzoTG> it can't shrink description
18:12:12 <AlonzoTG> or try dragging the left side of R (whatever the hell that is) to the left, it ends up shrinking Transaction to the RIGHT.
18:12:17 <AlonzoTG> but has no effect on R.
18:12:26 <jsled> That's the one column that will "snap". You can change its width by changing the window width.
18:12:30 <jsled> s/That/Description/
18:13:08 <warlord> AlonzoTG: That's what I said: You can't adjust the Description column.
18:13:39 <warlord> Adjust all your other columns to the size you want (expanding off the right edge of the window).. and then you can reduce the description column.
18:13:46 <AlonzoTG> that doesn't explain why Transaction magicly shrinks or why description must be so wide...
18:13:57 <AlonzoTG> ugh.
18:14:00 <warlord> It's not shrinking..
18:14:04 <AlonzoTG> Okay, I'll chalk that up as a workaround...
18:14:08 <warlord> You're shrinking it..
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18:14:30 <warlord> DAMN YOU!
18:14:43 <jsled> heh.
18:15:33 <warlord> @tell AlonzoTG The Description column always auto-fills to make the register fill the whole window. You can NEVER reduce that column smaller, because it will always auto-fill to fill the window. So to reduce the description column you need to increase other columns first.
18:15:33 <gncbot> warlord: The operation succeeded.
18:15:59 <warlord> @tell AlonzoTG And it's rude to leave the channel so quickly when someone is still trying to explain to you what the heck is going on!
18:15:59 <gncbot> warlord: The operation succeeded.
18:16:19 * warlord sighs
18:17:07 <warlord> Although I do have to agree that the auto-fill concept is sorta broken.
18:17:36 <jsled> for description?
18:17:40 <warlord> yeah
18:17:47 <jsled> It's too clever by ... a quarter.
18:17:53 <warlord> yeah
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19:00:55 <jsled> heh. So it looks like we have 4 allocated students.
19:01:34 <jsled> unless the change in the "below this line" line are just due to warlord's ranking...
19:02:14 <warlord> Nope, not from me.
19:02:28 <aj> nope, that's the official word apparently (as of two minutes ago)
19:02:29 <jsled> well then.
19:02:36 <jsled> oh? heh.
19:02:48 * jsled then re-checks...
19:03:03 <warlord> Looks like we get 4 students.
19:03:18 <jsled> that's great!
19:04:25 <andi5> did i miss some date? i only read that the list of accepted students will be published on april 11...
19:05:10 <jsled> andi5: yeah ... {two days ago/today} they publish the number of students allocated to each project.
19:05:56 <andi5> two days before the 11th is in two days *irritated*
19:06:22 <jsled> irritation?
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19:11:45 <warlord> andi5: they told us how many students we'll get.. Just not which ones.
19:12:17 <andi5> oh, do they know that already?
19:13:19 <andi5> so, could we still rank the students and resort them?
19:13:37 <jsled> sure.
19:13:59 <jsled> Or just choose to extend a mentorship to those "below the line", I guess.
19:21:08 <jsled> s/in/entirely in/
19:22:13 <jsled> I'm off; afk, &c.
19:22:34 <andi5> sounds like a lot of work ;-)
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