2007-03-23 GnuCash IRC logs

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04:06:08 <warlord> @op
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13:11:07 <frank> hi
13:11:15 <jsled> hello
13:11:44 <frank> I hope, I understood your questions rigth
13:12:12 <frank> in [Bug 421766]
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13:14:11 <jsled> yeah. It's understandable.
13:15:13 <frank> do you need something else, or is it enought for today?
13:15:44 <jsled> No, I think that's all very clear. But FWIW I don't see that bug getting fixed anytime soon unless someone contributes the patches.
13:16:03 <andi5> hint hint
13:16:31 <jsled> In, what, 6 (7?) years of working with the project, I've never heard this request before, not even from our European users.
13:16:31 <frank> What means FWIW?
13:16:36 <jsled> For what it's worth.
13:19:32 <frank> I think for private use it works fine. I startet ~5 years ago, because it could online banking.
13:22:25 <frank> about 1 y ago I startet using for business and often asked christian on the german mailing list.
13:28:29 <andi5> jsled: any chance you could test a commit on linux for me? (would save me at least two reboots :))
13:29:05 <jsled> andi5: sure ... against trunk? I might need to update first.
13:29:18 <andi5> well, i need to commit first anyway :)
13:29:27 * jsled updates and rebuilds.
13:29:43 <andi5> or i can send you a patch
13:30:08 <jsled> andi5: or pastebin one.
13:33:19 <andi5> yeehaw, pastebin.ca shows an internal error... pastebin.com is total crap too (is showing a weird error once i submit my text)
13:34:59 <jsled> I ... don't know if I want to try this patch, now... ;)
13:36:15 <andi5> http://paste.uni.cc/13969
13:37:05 <andi5> wait... looks like this server garbled my diff
13:37:51 <andi5> you can take it from the textarea at the bottom, though
13:37:55 * jsled nods
13:43:43 <jsled> So I'm testing file load, save, reload?
13:45:32 <jsled> Presumably with gzip enabled...
13:50:28 <jsled> andi5: seems fine here. I can save/restore gzip-compressed files.
13:56:02 <andi5> great :)
13:56:28 <andi5> thanks for your help! will get it in later this evening
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15:54:40 <warlord> @op
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17:14:50 <Adri2000> hi :)
17:15:21 <Adri2000> I'm still trying to fix the gtkhtml printing stuff in ubuntu...
17:16:31 <Adri2000> reading gnucash-devel mailing-list, and from what I understand, gtk_html_print() has been removed from gtkhtml because it's obsoleted by gtk 2.10, is that right?
17:19:10 <jsled> I'm not an expert on this, but looking at andi5's change to the gnucash sources, it looks like gtk_html_print was replaced with gtk_html_print_page
17:19:26 <jsled> ...in conjunction with gtk_print_...
17:20:14 <warlord> Adri2000: it's more than just a function name change. It's a complete API change. Ubuntu is broken. It's shipping a development version of gtkhtml that broke the API and ABI.
17:20:36 <warlord> You should file a bug report with ubuntu and get them to downgrade libgtkhtml3.8 from 3.13.92 to 3.12.x
17:21:20 <jsled> Adri2000: what is the current state of the world in Feisty? I happen to see on /. just now that the beta was released; waht versions of gtkhtml does it ship?
17:21:36 <Adri2000> still the same ones
17:21:44 <jsled> Oh. :(
17:21:49 <warlord> Adri2000: that's broken. they should really fix that.
17:21:49 <Adri2000> warlord: 3.13.92 is a development version?
17:21:53 <warlord> Adri2000: yes
17:21:59 <warlord> it's a pre-release of 3.14
17:22:09 <Adri2000> and 3.14 is out now, right?
17:22:40 <warlord> yes.. and ubuntu ships it, too, in fiesty
17:22:53 <warlord> libgtkhtml3.14-
17:23:04 <jsled> or so you told us last time. :)
17:23:05 <Adri2000> yep
17:23:25 <warlord> so, yes, fiesty is broken. they should fix it.
17:24:08 <Adri2000> I guess gnucash will have to move to 3.14 api sooner or later
17:24:16 <warlord> Adri2000: it is, but not in 2.0.x
17:25:02 <Adri2000> ok
17:25:26 <warlord> seirously, fiesty should fix libgtkhtml3.8 and downgrade to a non-dev-release version.
17:25:29 <jsled> There might be a good reason to use gtkhtml-3.13.92, but I doubt it, if they're shipping -3.14 as wel.
17:26:30 <warlord> yeah, i see no reason to ship 3.13.92 when you ship 3.14
17:27:57 <Adri2000> what's the stable release compatible with the api used by gnucash?
17:28:11 <warlord> 3.12.x ?
17:29:13 <Adri2000> If you have an account on launchpad, you may want to add a comment to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnucash/+bug/92477
17:29:20 <warlord> I do not.
17:30:06 <Adri2000> anyway now that I know that 3.13.92 is a development version, I will re-ask the gnome/gtkhtml guy about that
17:31:23 <warlord> ok
17:33:34 <hampton> http://www.flickr.com/photos/christopherblizzard/376866932/
17:33:54 <jsled> heh heh.
17:34:04 <ssickle> Well that explains the printing bug I saw last night anyway:)
17:34:12 <jsled> Followed by http://www.flickr.com/photos/christopherblizzard/376867422/in/photostream/
17:34:33 <warlord> heh
17:35:03 <hampton> lol
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17:35:53 <StephenG> Has anyone build gnucash on RHEL5? I'm having problems building both 1.8.12 and 2.0.5.
17:36:00 <jsled> hee. http://www.flickr.com/photos/christopherblizzard/378569571/in/photostream/
17:36:28 <warlord> StephenG: define "problems"? Maybe pastebin the failure?
17:36:46 <chris> hehe, I think the next one is better: http://www.flickr.com/photos/christopherblizzard/376867422/in/photostream/
17:37:06 <chris> oops.
17:37:17 <chris> running a little slow here, folks.
17:37:31 <StephenG> gmake[4]: Entering directory `/home/gowdy/unix/gnucash-2.0.5/src/business/business-core'
17:37:31 <StephenG> FLAVOR=gnome /usr/bin/guile -c \
17:37:31 <StephenG> "(set! %load-path (cons \"/usr/share/guile\" %load-path)) \
17:37:31 <StephenG> (set! %load-path (cons \"/home/gowdy/unix/gnucash-2.0.5/src/business/business-core\" %load-path)) \
17:37:31 <StephenG> (set! %load-path (cons \"../../engine\" %load-path)) \
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17:37:52 <warlord> * sighs *
17:37:59 <warlord> clearly didn't understand "pastebin"
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17:44:02 <StephenG> (not sure if this got through before) I had to edit gw-test-enumeration-spec.scm in g-wrap 1.3.6 to get it to compiler okay. I added the line;
17:44:02 <StephenG> :use-module (g-wrap enumeration) and that also helped for an file earlier in the build of gnucash but not for this file.
17:44:28 <warlord> StephenG: no, it did not.
17:44:36 <jsled> StephenG: http://pastebin.ca/ is your friend.
17:44:37 <warlord> you should've used pastebin
17:44:48 <warlord> also, you should be using g-wrap 1.9.6, not 1.3.6
17:44:55 <StephenG> Ah, that wasn't a typo.
17:44:58 <jsled> Er, that's down. http://pastebin.com/
17:45:41 <StephenG> Not 1.9.7? I tried that originally.
17:45:51 <warlord> no, NOT 1.9.7
17:46:18 <StephenG> cheers... I'll give it a go now and come back if needed.
17:46:34 <jsled> StephenG: you should probably try to use notting's g-wrap packages.
17:46:42 <jsled> which are fixed to use glib-2.x.
17:46:49 <jsled> http://people.redhat.com/notting/gnucash/
17:47:11 <jsled> hmmm actually, they don't seem to be there.
17:47:44 <StephenG> No, i looked there already. And those don't install on RHEL5.
17:47:49 <StephenG> (The RHEL4 ones).
17:47:53 * jsled nods.
17:48:02 <warlord> StephenG: did you try rebuilding from his SRPMs?
17:48:19 <jsled> Well, g-wrap-*any version* needs to be updated to check for glib-2.x.
17:48:29 <warlord> right
17:48:44 <jsled> g-wrap-1.3.x is ancient and does't build clena against gcc-4.x g-wrap-1.9.7 is broken as well.
17:48:50 <jsled> (as mentioned)
17:49:39 <StephenG> Fell over during configure for 1.9.6, jsut seeing if I can figure out why. (RHEL5 has gcc 4.1.1).
17:51:21 <StephenG> I didn't have g++ installed.... moving on. Hmm, there doesn't seem to be one. I'll make a symlink for it.
17:54:09 <StephenG> (sorry for the noise) It is called gcc-c++. Should have remembered that.
17:55:35 <StephenG> This will take a while, my network is slow this evening (in France).
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18:27:07 <StephenG> So I get a different build error now. I've put it in http://pastebin.ca/407317.
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18:29:39 <warlord> StephenG: did you reset your gnucash sources after changing your g-wrap version?
18:30:15 <StephenG> Yeah, untarred a fresh directory.
18:31:12 <StephenG> I had to set GUILE_LOAD_PATH to /usr/local/share/guile/site so that it found the g-wrap 1.9.6 I'd just installed.
18:32:10 <warlord> what does gw-core-utils.c look like?
18:33:45 <StephenG> I've just restarted a build with a : at the start of the GUILE_LOAD_PATH, in case that made a difference. I'll add the source to pastebin.ca when it is available.
18:34:03 <warlord> ok
18:34:57 <StephenG> Hmm, it fell over somewhere else now, so it did make a difference. I'll update pastebin.ca with the newer error.
18:35:04 <warlord> ok
18:38:51 <StephenG> I've updated it and put the source file in question at cern.ch/gowdy/gw-engine.c.gz
18:40:19 <StephenG> I didn't put all the errors on pastebin.ca as it was quite long...
18:41:34 <warlord> do you have an updated pastebin with the new errors?
18:42:23 <StephenG> Yeah. The same one.http://pastebin.ca/407325. Ah, the number changed. I assumed it replaced, sorry.
18:43:56 <StephenG> Looks like something is anti-truncated on that line (not sure what it is called when the start of the line is missing...).
18:44:35 <warlord> Huh.
18:46:38 <warlord> what does gw-engine.c:23236 look like (line 23236 of that file)?
18:47:12 <StephenG> I put the file at http://cern.ch/gowdy/gw-engine.c.gz. THe line only contains;
18:47:23 <StephenG> _entered_namestr, NULL);
18:47:30 <warlord> That's.... wrong.
18:47:42 <warlord> can you rm the file and try again?
18:48:48 <StephenG> That really shouldn't have helped... should it? It got past it to another file. gw-kvp. I'll try the same thing.
18:49:45 <StephenG> So rm-ing that help. I used -j3 to do the build, could that hurt?
18:49:59 <warlord> Yes, that will hurt.
18:50:02 <warlord> use -j0
18:50:06 <warlord> (or no -j at all)
18:50:17 <warlord> 2.0.x isn't "make -j" safe
18:50:18 <StephenG> okay, no -j.
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18:57:17 <StephenG> So I did a gmake clean and then gmake. I get undefined references. http://pastebin.ca/407349
18:57:30 <StephenG> This looks like it is in a test program.
18:58:10 <warlord> looks like it's not linking against libguile.. or not linking against g-wrap
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19:00:11 <StephenG> Is it not suppose to add those itself? I'll do a distclean and reconfigure adding --with-g-wrap-prefix=/usr/local.
19:02:01 <warlord> Well, g-wrap could be confused about itself; it usually doesn't like not being in the system paths.
19:02:36 <StephenG> You mean you normally install it under its own directory? Like /usr/local/g-wrap or /opt/g-wrap?
19:03:21 <warlord> No, i normally use the system-provided g-wrap
19:03:32 <StephenG> Ah. If only.
19:03:47 <warlord> As we said earlier, build from the SRPM)
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19:05:10 <StephenG> That didn't help (the rebuild with --with-g-wrap-prefix). Where is the g-wrap SRPM?
19:05:29 <warlord> people.redhat.com/notting/gnucash
19:06:05 <StephenG> That only seems to be 1.3.4. Is that okya?
19:06:57 <warlord> well, your other option is to pull the SRPM from, say, FC5 or FC6
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19:07:36 <StephenG> fc6 should be good for RHEL5.
19:16:51 <StephenG> warlord: you in Germany now then?
19:17:15 <warlord> StephenG: no, i changed my itinerary. I'm still in Prague, I'll fly to .de Sunday
19:17:43 <StephenG> I'm going to Munich Monday-Friday but not close enough really. I'll be in Prague the following week for a couple of days. Shame.
19:18:15 <warlord> Yeah, Munich->Frankfurt is a bit of a trek.
19:18:19 <warlord> I wont have a car.
19:18:39 <StephenG> Me neither. You getting a chance to meet some gnucash folk?
19:19:12 <warlord> Yeah, next weekend I'm going up to Hamburg to meet up with cstim (and hopefully andi5)
19:20:37 <StephenG> Hope the weather is good there. Never been but from what I hear it is like home (scotland), rains a lot.
19:20:52 <warlord> Eh, rain doens't bother me too much
19:21:08 <StephenG> Clean build!! Thanks. Looks like I needed a good version of g-wrap which in the end was the SRPM from fc6.
19:21:17 <warlord> good.
19:22:12 <StephenG> The weather here (near Geneva) was pretty good till Monday, then it got cold and snowed a little. Thought we had hit spring already. I've been in CA for the last seven years so got a bit soft.
19:22:34 <warlord> Yeah, it's cold and wet here in Prague.
19:22:40 <warlord> I hear it snowed in Frankfurt today.
19:22:43 <warlord> (or yesterday)
19:23:31 <StephenG> We had a couple of weeks here with real snow, but it all fell in 24 hours. Was fun to make a snowman with our little guy (just over two). Did it just in time as the snow melted really quickly.
19:23:43 <warlord> LOL
19:27:07 <StephenG> Hey, can I ask you an AFS question while we're here?
19:27:15 <warlord> LOL. Sure.
19:29:03 <StephenG> Do you follow the Scientific Linux lists? They are using 1.4.3 instead of 1.4.4 for their rebuild of RHEL5. Not sure why though. I installed the RPMs from openafs.org for 1.4.4 on this machine but klog SEGVs. May be due to the newer kernel, while the module loads it does complain.Found system call table at 0xc06004e0 (pattern scan)
19:29:03 <StephenG> Address 0xc06004e0 is not writable.
19:29:03 <StephenG> System call hooks will not be installed; proceeding anyway
19:29:03 <StephenG> Starting AFS cache scan...found 0 non-empty cache files (0%).
19:29:04 <StephenG> SELinux: initialized (dev afs, type afs), uses genfs_contexts
19:29:33 <warlord> that's normal.
19:29:47 <StephenG> (gdb) where
19:29:47 <StephenG> #0 0x08076453 in xdr_array ()
19:29:50 <warlord> run klog under gdb or strace and see where it segv's?
19:29:53 <StephenG> That is all gdb says.
19:30:03 <warlord> Sorry, I dont know.
19:30:32 <StephenG> Well, there are more addresses in the same function. Okay, thansk anyway. Guess it is time to sleep a little... or are heading out?
19:30:38 <warlord> You might want to ask on the SL lists. or openafs-info
19:30:50 <warlord> Time for bed for me.
19:31:27 <StephenG> Yeah, probably will. Thanks again. You know you really need gnucash but you don't appreciate how much till you can't run it.
19:31:42 <warlord> LOL.
19:34:08 <StephenG> good night.
19:34:11 <warlord> night
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21:22:36 <faga> is warlord-afk Derek?
21:22:51 <faga> Anyone knows?
21:29:46 <japhy> faga: /whois warlord-afk and http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/User:Warlord seem to say so.
21:30:53 <faga> ok lol, I don't understand what is this -afk
21:31:06 <faga> 3 years without using IRC too :P
21:31:12 <faga> thanks
21:31:19 <japhy> away from keyboard, I think
21:33:29 <japhy> And, is there anything I should do/discuss prior to writing application for Google Summer of Code? I'm interested in rewriting register to GtkTreeView, maybe along with #166419 bug (adding Calendar View).
21:36:12 <faga> cool, I'm interesting in dogtail test
21:36:19 <faga> *interested...
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21:47:24 <chris> japhy: there's nothing required before applying for GSoC.
21:48:16 <chris> japhy, faga: but you should submit soon; isn't Saturday a deadline?
21:49:09 <chris> japhy: you also might want to take a look at the current state of the register-rewrite branch. It builds and runs.
21:51:46 <japhy> Deadline has been extended to Monday.
21:52:29 <japhy> I thought of submitting application tomorrow morning (after I get some sleep and can think a bit clearer).
21:52:35 <japhy> I'll check this branch.
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23:25:22 <lasindi[lappy]> Hi all, I am thinking about applying to implement the delimited file importer feature through the Google Summer of Code program. I actually already have code written that would serve as a sort of prototype for it (from another project) but it is written in Python. My question is: I know that Gnumeric is written in C, but the website says at least parts of it are accessible from other languages. Would this apply for this
23:25:22 <lasindi[lappy]> particular feature?
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