2007-02-28 GnuCash IRC logs
00:16:08 <hampton> Incredible video: http://paulgraham.com/anybots.html
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01:29:22 <hampton> night all
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02:07:19 <yamanu> jsled: I solved the issue on FreeBSD! Peter Jerremy identified the problem in libtool, so official version is not good ATM.
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02:26:04 <warlord> yamanu: Can you post the actual issue/answer on the GnuCash FAQ?
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03:39:58 <yamanu> warlord: OK, I'll se what the BSD guys will say.
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08:42:14 <jsled> .
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10:32:15 <MrN> hi
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12:45:57 <xNibbler> is gnucash able to do dtaus?
12:47:29 <warlord> xNibbler: only in trunk. not 2.0.x
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13:49:39 <xNibbler> ah ok
13:52:16 <xNibbler> thanks a lot, i'll either wait or user trunk then ;-)
13:56:31 <MrN> xNibbler: i'm only like 30% informed. won't DTAUS be deprecated when SEPA comes out?
13:57:17 <xNibbler> no idea. my father who first forced me to install linux on his pc now forces me to make his floppy-disk-based banking with linux :]
13:57:25 <xNibbler> and he seems to use dtaus
13:58:06 <MrN> he forced you to install linux. why? seems to be a clever guy :D
14:00:32 <xNibbler> hehe, he once again got his windoze overrun by trojans and virii
14:01:36 <MrN> oh right.
14:02:15 <xNibbler> i guess the main reason for many ppl. it was my reason to switch on the desktop 2 years ago, too (had a lot of expericence with servers by the time so was pretty easy)
14:03:20 <MrN> i forgot why i switched - but am happy
14:04:09 <xNibbler> hehe
14:05:59 <warlord> Man.. I've been using Linux on my desktop since... 1992?
14:06:02 <warlord> No, 1993
14:06:47 <MrN> warlord: the time when "desktop" meant how the computer itself looks like?
14:06:50 <xNibbler> wow
14:07:26 <xNibbler> back then first slackware/fdisk fked my hd, then i didnt touch linux for another few years ;-)
14:07:59 <xNibbler> parted my 800MB drive in an 800 and a 400MB partition..... great job doule-mapping drivespace
14:08:00 <warlord> Yeah, I used slackware... 2?
14:08:17 <warlord> Eventually I changed to Red Hat 3.0.x
14:08:23 <warlord> And I haven't looked back.
14:10:13 <MrN> xNibbler: nice.
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14:31:46 <andi5> hampton: ping
14:53:07 <jsled> Should probably add a FAQ for the "gkeyfile changes"; it'll probably come up a bunch more in the next many months.
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14:59:37 <warlord> * nods *
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15:19:06 <chris> warlord: I can't access wiki ATM, but I can mentor the r-rw. Feel free to add User:Chris to that entry.
15:41:36 <warlord> chris: will do.
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16:38:11 <Boingo> Hello everyone. I have been (happily) using GnuCash for quite a while for my personal finances. Works just peachy. I am starting a business that depends on billable hours to the clients. Those hours are tracked in a web based application. I want to know if there is going to be any way to build an import/export to link the time billing data into GnuCash, or if I need to look for another solution. I am a reasonably adept programm
16:38:49 <Boingo> Thanks is advance for any help anyone can provide.
16:39:36 <warlord> Boingo: at this point there's no way to import that kind of information. see http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/SoC2007
16:42:03 <Boingo> Wow, those sound great.
16:42:19 <Boingo> No way to do it now though huh. Have to cut and paste?
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16:58:33 <warlord> Boingo: yeah, I'm afraid for now it's cut-and-paste.
17:01:05 <Boingo> Just thinking out loud here, but is it possible to do it through a qif import?
17:02:32 <Boingo> Or does GnuCash keep its data in some what that I can insert it directly into the database?
17:03:29 <warlord> you can't use QIF to import and Invoice.
17:03:37 <warlord> (there's NO way to import and invoice right now)
17:03:46 <warlord> and no, directly writing into the datafile isn't supported.
17:05:13 <Boingo> Ok. :-) Was just thinking out loud.
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17:12:48 <warlord> Of course.
17:13:31 <Boingo> What are the odds/timeline of the SoC going getting accepted? (Just trying to weigh my options)
17:13:45 <jsled> Well, the timeline is "summer". :)
17:14:15 <Boingo> hahahaha
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17:15:31 <Boingo> I mean, I am small enough at this point that I can cut-and-paste, but I don't want to do that forever. It if is likely to be done by "summer's" end, I will probably stick with GnuCash, as I do like it.
17:16:37 <warlord> Who knows if we'll be accepted? Or if it will complete?
17:16:46 <warlord> There's a lot of uncertainty in the SoC.
17:16:56 <warlord> And then there's the time to make a release.. It wont make 2.2
17:17:21 <Boingo> Ah, so it could be a while. :(
17:17:43 <warlord> Yeah.
17:17:50 <warlord> At least until it makes it into a stable release.
17:17:59 <warlord> I would guess.. End of 2008.
17:18:11 <Boingo> That is a lot of cut and paste.
17:19:18 <warlord> Well, you're welcome to help support the implementation ;)
17:19:48 <Boingo> In all my spare time.... :-)
17:20:21 <MrN> well not having to copy&paste gives you a _lot_ of additional spare time
17:20:47 <Boingo> Yeah. :-) But I don't have that spare time, because I am cutting and pasting. :-)
17:21:04 <Boingo> How much of a bounty do you think I would need to put on it to get someone to do it sooner?
17:21:20 <MrN> now i must get the phrase "discounted time-flows" out of my head
17:21:36 <warlord> LOL
17:21:50 <warlord> Boingo: I dunno.
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18:05:41 <aphexer> Is there a reason why bills and invoices share the same counter?
18:06:01 <aphexer> so i got bills number 1 3 and 5, and invoices number 2 and 4. No bill number 2 and no invoice number 1.
18:07:02 <MrN> it's a feature, not a bug
18:07:48 <warlord> aphexer: because invoices, bills, and expense vouchers are all the same thing.
18:08:53 <aphexer> well here we have the "habbit" (not sure if it's legally required), to have a separate folder with bills and another folder with invoices. If you share the counter it looks like there are bills/invoices missing
18:09:17 <aphexer> but yes it's the same technically speaking :)
18:09:24 <aphexer> it has another meaning though
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18:11:53 <warlord> Send in a patch.
18:13:00 <aphexer> hehe :) maybe:) was just wondering if there was a nontechnical reason for it
18:16:23 <warlord> No, it's just how it was implemented...
18:16:51 <warlord> There's no internal differentiation between the various subclasses of Invoice.
18:17:00 <warlord> This is why you get all types in the Search dialog.
18:17:24 <aphexer> yeah i can understand:)
18:19:22 <warlord> It would be a relatively small but not insubstantial task to change all that.
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18:21:48 <aphexer> probably just use another name for both things
18:22:02 <aphexer> would be my guess (but i only took a very short look at the xml file :))
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18:28:29 <warlord> It has nothing to do with the XML file.
18:28:53 <warlord> It all uses GncInvoice internally. The only difference is the object type for the GncInvoice->Owner
18:30:49 <aphexer> oh
18:32:25 <aphexer> well i gotta go now, thanks for your help :)
18:32:29 <warlord> np
18:32:41 <aphexer> who knows, i might once take a look at it :)
18:32:43 <aphexer> (the patch:))
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19:38:05 <MrN> n8
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